2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

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s1962a

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Wednesday 24th January
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I'm sure there is another thread on this already, but can't seem to search for it.

It's coming up to the London mayoral election on May 2nd.

The main contenders seem to be

Sadiq Khan - knife crime has gone up immensely under his watch. Implemented ULEZ.

Susan Hall - doesn't know how much a bus ticket costs. Will get rid of ULEZ.

s1962a

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Wednesday 24th January
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s1962a

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Wednesday 24th January
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s1962a

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Wednesday 24th January
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Killboy said:
Susan who?
The ULEZ saviour.

s1962a

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Wednesday 24th January
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MXRod said:
There are too many candidates standing on an anti Khan and cancel ULEZ platform . between them they will dilute the anti Khan voting and he will spend another 4 years forcing even more outlandish policies on Londoners
For me as a Londoner, I consider the following important

- Crime. Need more police on the streets, and every burglary/shop lifting/anti social crime needs to be attended
- Housing costs (rent, council tax)
- Council waste
- 20mph speed limits.. what the hell

s1962a

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Friday 26th January
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Killboy said:
s1962a said:
The ULEZ saviour.
Oh, I thought that was a job for the Reform numpties seen supporting the angry old men meetups anti ULEZ protests
Yeah but one of them has heard about an 85 yr old lady who cannot now to her monthly bingo night because of the ULEZ charge. When the ULEZ issue was kicking off last year, it was made pretty clear that this is one of the most important issues London has to face, and so we'll find out how important it really is come the election.


s1962a

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Friday 26th January
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fido said:
Realistically as in other cities e.g. Manchester we don’t have a choice as it’s predominantly a Labour city. Just go along with the sheeple.
"the will of the people" and all that. It seems to have worked for us in 2016.

Personally I think London needs some sort of proportional representation system. Not sure how it would work, be something that balances the needs of the various different groups, and also does something about inequality, crime, transport, and the mess our councils are in.

s1962a

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Friday 26th January
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Killboy said:
s1962a said:
"the will of the people" and all that. It seems to have worked for us in 2016.

Personally I think London needs some sort of proportional representation system. Not sure how it would work, be something that balances the needs of the various different groups, and also does something about inequality, crime, transport, and the mess our councils are in.
Maybe London can be proportionally represented nationally too.
Did you mean that London disproportionately adds to the year UK tax take or some other proportional representation? Other regions need to pay their fair share, but the majority of the higher paying jobs are here in London. The City of London itself provides something like 15%+ of total UK tax.

The city requires better governance as with all that money there is huge inequality, violent crime, and council funding is a mess.

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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https://news.sky.com/story/sadiq-khan-to-trial-all...

I thought TFL needed money? I don't see the point in cutting fares on a Friday, when the extra money could be used elsewhere to make commuters lives easier.

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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z4RRSchris said:
20 mph speed limits / ulez - the fact you think thats an issue is nuts
Do you drive? I'll give you an example - Streatham High road coming down from Brixton. It's 20mph all the way and it's difficult at night time to drive down this major road without going over 20mph. It's not a suitable road. 20mph around schools/side streets - absolutely fine, but not on major roads.

z4RRSchris said:
for me as a londoner i would like to see:

better funded transport, more ebike options
ban private cars from z1, higher CC and Ulez. Higher parking costs
pedestrianise oxford street - get more tourists spending cash
fund youth services better, will reduce petty crime
stop planning getting bogged down by locals, set it at a mayoral level London Plan and stick to it. If a site has 100m heigh and room for 500 homes thats what it gets. build 100% affordable on council land, there is st loads of it. Start a council DM
Totally respect your thoughts on this. Don't agree with banning cars from Z1, but do agree with the other points.

Knife crime, shoplifting, and low level unsocial behaviour. I don't care who does it, but this needs tackling. We need more police on the streets as a visible deterrent.

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
Youth funding? What is this? Bribery payments to stop inner city kids from stabbing people?

Kids outside of London manage without this. I wonder why?
Which Utopia (part of the UK) do you live in? Knife crime is a problem all over the UK unfortunately.


s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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Billy_Rosewood said:
Susan Hall is an absolute shambles.

Sad times that she's the only alternative to the current crackpot who could have been an excellent mayor but seems more interested in cooking the books/shifting blame to try and leave a legacy that isn't record number of strikes and record knife crime.
She will get rid of ULEZ on day 1.. Day 1!!!!!

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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valiant said:
s1962a said:
She will get rid of ULEZ on day 1.. Day 1!!!!!
And still hasn't said how she'll replace the lost revenue.
Easy. She'll just repurpose it from the other less important areas. You do know that ULEZ is the most important thing for Londonders right??

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
laugh

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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z4RRSchris said:
i do drive, its much easier to set blanket wide borough speed limits than have this road X and that road Y. but again the fact that you want to drive down the A23 at 40mph wont get you anywhere faster than if you drove down it at 20mph, there are lights every few hundred metres. Just relax, drive at 20 and listen to the radio.
They aren't blanketly enforced though. You could be driving down a quiet side road and it's 30mph, and then go into a main road and it's 20mph. Probably different councils and it's not joined up. For me, 20mph is fine for side roads and near schools, but not for main roads.

z4RRSchris said:
knife crime and ASB root cause is kids not having things to do, or role models to look upto, becuase services have been cut to the bone. Locking people up in this regard isnt a deterant.
I grew up in a very rough part of London, and can see how knife crime has got worse, and agree that reducing services has not helped. An adequate deterrent has not helped either. Did you grow up in London?

z4RRSchris said:
shoplifting because you need to eat is different from shoplifting for a living. The former needs macro social changes, the latter needs deporting
Yes, I see that difference too, and the shoplifting i've seen in person from major shops is more opportunist and "organised crime" than a homeless person grabbing something to eat. What has your experience been of this?

z4RRSchris said:
but all your points generally sound like angry daily mail gammon points driven up by a right wing media in order to distract a populous from real issues around an election.
For me having spent my whole life here, and having not had much and working hard, I can see what the issues are around me. We can differ on some of these points, but having security of housing, personal safety, and cost of living are big issues we need to fix. The gap between the have have-nots is getting bigger all the time.

z4RRSchris said:
Susan Hall is a joke candidate, shes there to help the tories outside london. not win the election which she has zero hope in hell of doing. She has about as much compassion to those who struggle in inner city london as a dog turd.
Yep

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
s1962a said:
gt_12345 said:
I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
laugh
That's your response?
This wasn't your attempt at sarcastic humour?

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
And yet kids in poor areas outside of London have no problems?
Which is not true. Knife crime is the most prevalent in London, but it is a scourge all across the UK.

gt_12345 said:
In fact certain kids inside London have no problems. But best we don't go there.... eh?
Go on.. which parts of London have no problems with knife crime? No doubt you'll be telling me that Hendon and areas around there have little crime. This might be true as I have a mate who lives around there and he pays for security to patrol the area. Something that would be good to have in other parts if we could afford it.

What part of the UK do you live in?

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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z4RRSchris said:
"knife crime" in london is mostly gang on gang. kids fighting. they should be other options for them than being told to shot weed and heroin for someone else and handed a knife. the less you spend on other options, the more knife crime there is.
It's a bit more nuanced than that. As we seem to have more lax policing, things like knife crime, anti social behaviour, phone snatchers on mopeds and similar things just seem to get worse. It's not just kids vs kids - everyone can be a target and thats part of the problem we need to tackle.

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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Seasonal Hero said:
gt_12345 said:
You're the one with the problem. You tell me the part which you think is really bad?
No - I'm really not.

I'm not doing your homework for you. You've already said you haven't actually read the speech so it's fking funny that you're now asking others what was wrong with it. Maybe try reading it. A wild suggestion I know.
I wonder if he also found Hitlers socialist and green agenda quite reassuring and "factually correct"

s1962a

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Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
..if immigration was controlled there'd be enough housing! But you won't say that because your ideology loves it.
You voted for Brexit right? Job jobbed.