What if your house is inside the proposed blast radius...
Poll: What if your house is inside the proposed blast radius...
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Discussion
crofty1984 said:
Would it actually explode like a bomb or burn fiercly?
Anyway, I'm sure that the people dealing with it are aware of its nature and will treat it accordingly seeing as they're directly in the firing line.
I'm sure the likelyhood of some dozey bugger mowing into you when out on the roads is much greater.
To quote Mr. Hunt:
"If I was as nervous as you, I'd never fart for fear of s
tting myself."
Its is theoretically possible to get LNG to go up like a bomb but it is quite hard, it can however burn like buggery if you make a mistake and let it out.Anyway, I'm sure that the people dealing with it are aware of its nature and will treat it accordingly seeing as they're directly in the firing line.
I'm sure the likelyhood of some dozey bugger mowing into you when out on the roads is much greater.
To quote Mr. Hunt:
"If I was as nervous as you, I'd never fart for fear of s
tting myself."But if you do get a spill and treat it properly it buggers off into the atmosphere sharpish as it is alot lighter then air once you have the vapour warm enough which is part of the reason the ships are fitted with huge water deluge systems. The water pump to run this system is knocking on the door of 500Kw and is taller then me by a good margin.
snowy slopes said:
Here endeth the lesson today, and thanks for the info, i always like to update my miniscule knowledge!!
The Norman Lady gas carrier did have an argument with a submarine onceI think it was declared that the sub lost after not noticing the huge floating bomb and surfacing under it.
more not so sensational stuff
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/shi...
Note the bit about the 1979 grounding at 19 knots where there was no cargo leakage.
More stuff about large spills of LNG
http://books.google.com/books?id=yFErAAAAYAAJ&...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/shi...
Note the bit about the 1979 grounding at 19 knots where there was no cargo leakage.
More stuff about large spills of LNG
http://books.google.com/books?id=yFErAAAAYAAJ&...
Pesty said:
1 terrorist and 1 RPG
would that be enough to set it off or would it just dent the hull
Hull about 1 inch thick so probably polish out and even if they did get through the outer hull it has to get through the ballast tank and the second layer of hull and then the two layers of the tank in a membrane type ship or the foot of aluminum in a Moss type shipwould that be enough to set it off or would it just dent the hull
More likely is terrorists and a ton of explosives in small boat that would probably breach the hull but that would result in a pool fire not an explosion
Move house? Perhaps your house is now worth more as workers at the terminal might want to move closer? Might make a profit??
There is always the possibility of an Incident that could affect you.
I am currently sitting only a few feet away from VERY high pressure gas, as I work in a gas storgage installation.
However in the UK we have the BEST Engineers and Design and the best safety culture!
In China it is not quite so good???
http://webwormcpt.blogspot.com/2009/03/pneumatic-t...
I can't see there is any way that the above Shanghai Incident would have happend in the UK!!
Hydrostatic testing of all the pipework would have identified faulty components before the air pressure test! We would not have use air either, but N2 Helium mix to find very small leaks.
British Engineers are renound and reguarded as the best in the world for a very good reason!!
When these others try to cut cost and use Micky Mouse staff that is when it goes wrong.
The Algerian Incident should never have happened, and would not in the UK due to our safety procedures!
There is always the possibility of an Incident that could affect you.
I am currently sitting only a few feet away from VERY high pressure gas, as I work in a gas storgage installation.
However in the UK we have the BEST Engineers and Design and the best safety culture!
In China it is not quite so good???
http://webwormcpt.blogspot.com/2009/03/pneumatic-t...
I can't see there is any way that the above Shanghai Incident would have happend in the UK!!
Hydrostatic testing of all the pipework would have identified faulty components before the air pressure test! We would not have use air either, but N2 Helium mix to find very small leaks.
British Engineers are renound and reguarded as the best in the world for a very good reason!!
When these others try to cut cost and use Micky Mouse staff that is when it goes wrong.
The Algerian Incident should never have happened, and would not in the UK due to our safety procedures!
Ha, apologies for playing devils advocate. I've no intention of moving - quite the opposite, and I have no worries about the LNG plant or supposed risks by the usual enviro-nutters - in fact I've been trying to get a post at the plant.
The influx of work and workers into the area due to the combined LNG terminals (there are in fact 2 - projects totalling about $12bn) have been tremendous for the local economy.
Have these all been migrant workers? No not at all. There have certainly been some, but the mainly Polish influx have brought their families with them, and have integrated well with the community, bringing in much needed spending power in these times. The local area has beenhit by a number of major employers going bust, so the influx of spending power has been a godsend to be honest. In fact the only influx of related people to the area who bring very little are the enviro-nutters who live in their tents or caravans, live on lentils, and ironically usually leave behind an unholy mess behind them for others or the council to clear up in their wake.
House prices has been mentioned, and this has to a certain extent lessened the downward spiral that seems to be going on elsewhere. Obviously the house prices have dropped, but not to the extent of other areas out of comuting distance of the terminals, and added to the fact that the house prices rose more before the drop due to the influx. This has of course meant the usual issues of local people finding it hard to afford houses, but that is hardly a local phenomenon.
The area has had and still has; a number of petrolium refinaries, which the usual doom mongerers seem to have forgotten about. Needless to say these are full to the hilt with flamable substances and there haven't been any issues of note. Have there been any scares where things have gone wrong? - Yes, but the safety systems in place did their job as was intended. There WILL be things that break, but thats where the safety systems come into play.
My original posts were deliberately sensationalist Daily Wail in nature, and I'm glad that common sense seems to have prevailedin the poll - also with good informative posts from tinforth2 et al. Realistically the chances of living anywhere in the UK these ays without being near anything "dangerous" are minimal, and yes, the chances of getting hit by a big red bus or similar, are far greater.
Cheers for commenting
The influx of work and workers into the area due to the combined LNG terminals (there are in fact 2 - projects totalling about $12bn) have been tremendous for the local economy.
Have these all been migrant workers? No not at all. There have certainly been some, but the mainly Polish influx have brought their families with them, and have integrated well with the community, bringing in much needed spending power in these times. The local area has beenhit by a number of major employers going bust, so the influx of spending power has been a godsend to be honest. In fact the only influx of related people to the area who bring very little are the enviro-nutters who live in their tents or caravans, live on lentils, and ironically usually leave behind an unholy mess behind them for others or the council to clear up in their wake.
House prices has been mentioned, and this has to a certain extent lessened the downward spiral that seems to be going on elsewhere. Obviously the house prices have dropped, but not to the extent of other areas out of comuting distance of the terminals, and added to the fact that the house prices rose more before the drop due to the influx. This has of course meant the usual issues of local people finding it hard to afford houses, but that is hardly a local phenomenon.
The area has had and still has; a number of petrolium refinaries, which the usual doom mongerers seem to have forgotten about. Needless to say these are full to the hilt with flamable substances and there haven't been any issues of note. Have there been any scares where things have gone wrong? - Yes, but the safety systems in place did their job as was intended. There WILL be things that break, but thats where the safety systems come into play.
My original posts were deliberately sensationalist Daily Wail in nature, and I'm glad that common sense seems to have prevailedin the poll - also with good informative posts from tinforth2 et al. Realistically the chances of living anywhere in the UK these ays without being near anything "dangerous" are minimal, and yes, the chances of getting hit by a big red bus or similar, are far greater.
Cheers for commenting
You thinking something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EusE4MHH6G0
My favourite youtube video by far.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EusE4MHH6G0
My favourite youtube video by far.....
maser_spyder said:
You thinking something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EusE4MHH6G0
My favourite youtube video by far.....
Brilliant. I love the line "it's been towed outside of the environment."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EusE4MHH6G0
My favourite youtube video by far.....
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