Grade 2 listed - what’s allowed?
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I have been asked to refurbish a shower room in a grade 2 listed house. At present, the room contains a shower & basin.
The work to be carried out involves repositioning the shower, adding a toilet, closing the existing doorway (from the landing) & forming a new doorway through a solid wall from a bedroom, making it an en-suite.
Possibly asking the obvious, but is permission required for this, due to its listed status & who needs approaching to get the permission?
Thanks
The work to be carried out involves repositioning the shower, adding a toilet, closing the existing doorway (from the landing) & forming a new doorway through a solid wall from a bedroom, making it an en-suite.
Possibly asking the obvious, but is permission required for this, due to its listed status & who needs approaching to get the permission?
Thanks
Thanks for all the comments.
I hadn’t considered if the house was listed, when originally discussing the work, but when thinking what an impressive building it is, I checked & the owner said it was G2 listed.
We’re going to check with the Conservation Officer, as want to adhere to the regs.
I hadn’t considered if the house was listed, when originally discussing the work, but when thinking what an impressive building it is, I checked & the owner said it was G2 listed.
We’re going to check with the Conservation Officer, as want to adhere to the regs.
Equus said:
Brinyan said:
... I checked & the owner said it was G2 listed.
We’re going to check with the Conservation Officer, as want to adhere to the regs.
You can do an initial check yourself HERE (where you can also view as many actual listings as you care to, and thereby recognise what nonsense it is to suggest that you can do what you like so long as the feature isn't specifically mentioned as 'part of the listing').We’re going to check with the Conservation Officer, as want to adhere to the regs.
Do be careful though: there's something called 'curtilage listing' which means (in very simple terms) that if a building fell within the curtilage of another building when that other building was listed, then it effectively shares the listed status even if it's sold on separately, later. It doesn't get it's own entry on the list, however, and the location map attached to the listing doesn't show the 'curtilage', so this is easy to miss.
I'm actually in the middle of looking at a building where this applied (a building that previously formed part of Listing no. 1156043, if you wish to look it up, but which is now a separate house in its own right). Unfortunately, the owner had never heard of 'Curtilage Listing', when they completely refurbished the property, so is currently busy lubing themselves up in preparation for the Conservation Officer's visit.
The owner is on the case. Even if it delays the work, both her & I want to abide to the regs.
ooid said:
Brinyan said:
I have been asked to refurbish a shower room in a grade 2 listed house. At present, the room contains a shower & basin.
The work to be carried out involves repositioning the shower, adding a toilet, closing the existing doorway (from the landing) & forming a new doorway through a solid wall from a bedroom, making it an en-suite.
Possibly asking the obvious, but is permission required for this, due to its listed status & who needs approaching to get the permission?
Thanks
Which borough(local authority)is it? I think they might have some guidance on the building. My first flat was a grade 2 listed in central London (2009). There was a guidance on how to refurbish the flat, and I have done loads of things including bathroom and kitchen (mostly finishes). They needed to see a list of things before starting to work and sent an officer to check later, it was all clear. No issue even when I sold the flat later on, just look for the guidance and follow it carefully good luck.The work to be carried out involves repositioning the shower, adding a toilet, closing the existing doorway (from the landing) & forming a new doorway through a solid wall from a bedroom, making it an en-suite.
Possibly asking the obvious, but is permission required for this, due to its listed status & who needs approaching to get the permission?
Thanks
I’ve liaised with the owner of the property & she’s going to contact the Conservation Officer.
She’s told me the stair case is ‘of importance’.
I’ve made it clear that I’m not carrying out any work until it’s been accepted by the CO.
Frankychops said:
Brinyan said:
Thanks for the advice. It’s in a village, under Tunbridge Wells Council.
I’ve liaised with the owner of the property & she’s going to contact the Conservation Officer.
She’s told me the stair case is ‘of importance’.
I’ve made it clear that I’m not carrying out any work until it’s been accepted by the CO.
would you carry the liability or the person who has instructed the work/the owner?I’ve liaised with the owner of the property & she’s going to contact the Conservation Officer.
She’s told me the stair case is ‘of importance’.
I’ve made it clear that I’m not carrying out any work until it’s been accepted by the CO.
However, I’m not going to start any work until any required permission has been obtained.
It’s a lovely house & the owner’s want to do things by the book.
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