Cost to re-do a small bathroom?
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Just spent a morning at the local independent trade warehouse looking at bathrooms as ours really could do with being re-done.
It's a small a room about 2Mx2M and I think I'd say I want decent quality but it's also a functional bathroom and I don't live in a mansion.
Walked away with catalogues full of Hansgrohe, Deuco and Villeroy & Boch and thinking all we need in there is a toilet, a sink and ideally a walk-in shower.
No bath.
I don't know the names of styles but nothing flash something like this for the sink unit.
A toilet - again just in terms of very rough aesthetic as we believe it has to go where the existing one is which is up against a hard tiled outer wall.
Appreciate they need to come out to measure up and quote properly but assuming something like that and a shower tray with a properly done walk in shower has anyone had anything similar size done recently and if so what was the fitting and labour cost please?
The pricing I got on materials is fine but I have no idea if a small bathroom is 3 days or 10 days.
It's a small a room about 2Mx2M and I think I'd say I want decent quality but it's also a functional bathroom and I don't live in a mansion.
Walked away with catalogues full of Hansgrohe, Deuco and Villeroy & Boch and thinking all we need in there is a toilet, a sink and ideally a walk-in shower.
No bath.
I don't know the names of styles but nothing flash something like this for the sink unit.
A toilet - again just in terms of very rough aesthetic as we believe it has to go where the existing one is which is up against a hard tiled outer wall.
Appreciate they need to come out to measure up and quote properly but assuming something like that and a shower tray with a properly done walk in shower has anyone had anything similar size done recently and if so what was the fitting and labour cost please?
The pricing I got on materials is fine but I have no idea if a small bathroom is 3 days or 10 days.
We're not exactly getting a consensus here are we 
This was what I wrote down simply as "building blocks" nothing more than finger in the air from an initial visit and chat with one of the guys down there but based on the brands above which were on display so hopefully realistic.
Toilet and cabinet/basin approx £1500
Shower "glass and tray" approx £1000 depends on size of tray and quantity of glass
Shower head and pump approx £800-1000
Radiator/towel rail approx £300
Tiles approx £1000
Taps approx £300
That's nothing more than a rough idea and there will be some bits missing of course but you can see how fitting and labour seems to be the biggest/bigger cost here
This was what I wrote down simply as "building blocks" nothing more than finger in the air from an initial visit and chat with one of the guys down there but based on the brands above which were on display so hopefully realistic.
Toilet and cabinet/basin approx £1500
Shower "glass and tray" approx £1000 depends on size of tray and quantity of glass
Shower head and pump approx £800-1000
Radiator/towel rail approx £300
Tiles approx £1000
Taps approx £300
That's nothing more than a rough idea and there will be some bits missing of course but you can see how fitting and labour seems to be the biggest/bigger cost here
It would be difficult for there to be less glitz and I didn't spot any manicures this morning
It's literally a giant trade warehouse but they have a design counter and also do decent brands.
They don't use their own fitters they work with local trades and one of them is the guy who did the current bathroom which was from them 15 or so years back.
Take the point about places like Wickes but I think I'd be happier with knowing I'm using decent brands and honestly nothing I saw this morning seemed super expensive.
The chap who installed the current bathroom is popping around Monday or Tuesday as there is a small brown water mark on the ceiling under the bathroom that I want checked so I'll see what he says.
It's literally a giant trade warehouse but they have a design counter and also do decent brands.
They don't use their own fitters they work with local trades and one of them is the guy who did the current bathroom which was from them 15 or so years back.
Take the point about places like Wickes but I think I'd be happier with knowing I'm using decent brands and honestly nothing I saw this morning seemed super expensive.
The chap who installed the current bathroom is popping around Monday or Tuesday as there is a small brown water mark on the ceiling under the bathroom that I want checked so I'll see what he says.
Little Lofty said:
I think I should put up my prices
These bathrooms for my flips cost me around £1500 for the fittings and tiles, I do most of the fitting/tiling myself. I’m a joiner and can tile a bathroom in 2/3 days
Thanks These bathrooms for my flips cost me around £1500 for the fittings and tiles, I do most of the fitting/tiling myself. I’m a joiner and can tile a bathroom in 2/3 days
To me the second one looks absolutely functional and the aesthetic is a little different (I don't want a bath) but not a million miles off what I had in mind i.e. minimal but good quality brands.
It's a bathroom I shower and s
t in it and I want it nice and done to last but I'm not made of money.I don't want to appear critical of anyone who's been kind enough to post but I must admit I'm a little gobsmacked at some of the top end prices mentioned.
WindyCommon said:
We did two en-suites last year, each about 2.4m x 2.4m. Showers with lo-pro trays and shower panels, mid-range loo and basin/storage similar to what you’ve shown, UFH, mirror cabinets with Bluetooth speakers (teenagers!), tiled walls and floors, some boxing for storage niches etc, lighting, towel rails with back-up electric elements, extractor fans in loft above etc.
Took 4 weeks start to finish. Cost was just below £30k, so £15k each. Roughly 50/50 labour/materials. Surrey-bubble prices….
Hard to photograph, but should give you an idea.
Thank you that is very useful (not the price though Took 4 weeks start to finish. Cost was just below £30k, so £15k each. Roughly 50/50 labour/materials. Surrey-bubble prices….
Hard to photograph, but should give you an idea.
Edited by WindyCommon on Sunday 28th April 16:28
).Appreciate we'll get some proper expertise to help plan but that helps with a nagging doubt about how a shower tray close to a basin could work so you're not trying to stand at the sink with 30cm behind you before the shower and glass starts
Well we had the plumber who did the existing bathroom out today as the thing that triggered this was a brown mark on the ceiling under the bath that needed checking out to be sure it was nothing to worry about.
Obviously the devil is in the detail but he reckoned a couple of weeks and approx £5K for his time and he could do everything so not a huge shock.
One thing he did mention was he's not a fan of tiled floors as they get slippy which feels slightly obvious.
He said to consider a very thick high quality vinyl with underlay.
Perhaps the word vinyl just conjures up thoughts of cheap st on a roll but what are peoples thoughts?
I know at the showroom they had a very heavy duty high quality vinyl type flooring which I forget the name of but I think it started with a C.
Obviously the devil is in the detail but he reckoned a couple of weeks and approx £5K for his time and he could do everything so not a huge shock.
One thing he did mention was he's not a fan of tiled floors as they get slippy which feels slightly obvious.
He said to consider a very thick high quality vinyl with underlay.
Perhaps the word vinyl just conjures up thoughts of cheap s
t on a roll but what are peoples thoughts?I know at the showroom they had a very heavy duty high quality vinyl type flooring which I forget the name of but I think it started with a C.
Bingo now you've said it it's Karndean and I assumed the C
It's very difficult to get too much of a feel for something stood on it in a showroom but looking on the website they seem to do stuff that looks like tiles as my concern was you'd have tiled walls with some fake plastic wood looking floor.
The room is 2M x 2M so even if it's expensive it's not going to be a big deal for 4M square.
Thoughts on that v tiles for a bathroom?
It's very difficult to get too much of a feel for something stood on it in a showroom but looking on the website they seem to do stuff that looks like tiles as my concern was you'd have tiled walls with some fake plastic wood looking floor.
The room is 2M x 2M so even if it's expensive it's not going to be a big deal for 4M square.
Thoughts on that v tiles for a bathroom?
Had another chap out today via the local showroom.
Seemed to know his stuff but as I don't know mine I would almost certainly think that
Haven't seen the quote but seemed to think about five days.
I'll see what the quote looks like via the showroom but it's looking like Vileroy & Boch units and WC with Karndean flooring and then there's a question mark around the shower type and the tray and glass layout that's dependent on what the showroom design chaps think is possibly and practical with the space.
Suggestion seemed to be keep the shower walk-in but with a "flap" glass that can help deflect/keep water where you want it.
Also something about the type of boiler and water tank that sounded like Aqualisa might be simpler than Hansgrohe for the shower but I'm not religious about that.
Seemed to know his stuff but as I don't know mine I would almost certainly think that
Haven't seen the quote but seemed to think about five days.
I'll see what the quote looks like via the showroom but it's looking like Vileroy & Boch units and WC with Karndean flooring and then there's a question mark around the shower type and the tray and glass layout that's dependent on what the showroom design chaps think is possibly and practical with the space.
Suggestion seemed to be keep the shower walk-in but with a "flap" glass that can help deflect/keep water where you want it.
Also something about the type of boiler and water tank that sounded like Aqualisa might be simpler than Hansgrohe for the shower but I'm not religious about that.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Would that be the actual hot water system itself?
It sounds like you have a gravity fed system with a hot water tank, and the shower you wanted needs a combi boiler?
That's what we had and for cost and simplicity I put an electric shower in. Now 2 years on I'm looking at a combi boiler anyway which will mean doing quite a bit of the bathroom again. Fortunately doing it myself and not all that well it isn't too expensive or heart wrenching to do that in my situation. However, if you're at all likely to want to upgrade the heating and hot water in the foreseeable future it would be worth looking at getting that done before the bathroom for a far better end result.
I'm still not 100% clear if I'm honest.It sounds like you have a gravity fed system with a hot water tank, and the shower you wanted needs a combi boiler?
That's what we had and for cost and simplicity I put an electric shower in. Now 2 years on I'm looking at a combi boiler anyway which will mean doing quite a bit of the bathroom again. Fortunately doing it myself and not all that well it isn't too expensive or heart wrenching to do that in my situation. However, if you're at all likely to want to upgrade the heating and hot water in the foreseeable future it would be worth looking at getting that done before the bathroom for a far better end result.
There's a condensing boiler downstairs (Flexicom HX) and a hot water cylinder in the airing cupboard on the first floor and a cold water tank in the loft.
The showroom suggested Hansgrohe and the first guy who came round said that's fine and a pump would be needed and that could go in the airing cupboard.
The guy today made it sound like replacing the existing Aqualisa with another Aqualisa would be simpler because of something to do with the pump but I didn't really understand why.
I'm not particularly religious about the brand I just want a decent shower.
Getting there slowly.
Question on radiators.
Multiple suggestions of stainless steel for the radiator as apparently it shouldn't mark or "pit" like cheap chrome ones do?
I quite like the matt/painted look radiators but that's just aesthetics and I'm obviously not an expert on practicality and longevity.
Question on radiators.
Multiple suggestions of stainless steel for the radiator as apparently it shouldn't mark or "pit" like cheap chrome ones do?
I quite like the matt/painted look radiators but that's just aesthetics and I'm obviously not an expert on practicality and longevity.
Off to try to finalise things tomorrow.
Nothing too different to what's been discussed so far so Karndean flooring, V&B toilet and vanity unit and basin and likely Hansgrohe or Aqualisa shower.
Exact shower tray size and glass size and style TBC other than I think it'll be "walk-in" or perhaps a flap type door as the room isn't massive so a full sliding door might get in the way when at the sink.
Nothing too different to what's been discussed so far so Karndean flooring, V&B toilet and vanity unit and basin and likely Hansgrohe or Aqualisa shower.
Exact shower tray size and glass size and style TBC other than I think it'll be "walk-in" or perhaps a flap type door as the room isn't massive so a full sliding door might get in the way when at the sink.
Just back.
Aqualisa has been suggested for the shower as the condenser boiler and gravity feed means it's simpler - means nothing to me but the current shower is Aqualisa and it's been flawless so I'm not going to get too hung up on that.
V&B for the cabinet and toilet.
Apparently the tap needs to be low pressure.
Aqualisa has been suggested for the shower as the condenser boiler and gravity feed means it's simpler - means nothing to me but the current shower is Aqualisa and it's been flawless so I'm not going to get too hung up on that.
V&B for the cabinet and toilet.
Apparently the tap needs to be low pressure.
Can someone educate me on basin taps please?
I believe we need a low pressure tap as the system is gravity fed and this appears to rule out a lot of taps including V&B as apparently those crazy Germans (and half the continent except the UK) use high pressure so don't tend to make low pressure taps.
I believe we need a low pressure tap as the system is gravity fed and this appears to rule out a lot of taps including V&B as apparently those crazy Germans (and half the continent except the UK) use high pressure so don't tend to make low pressure taps.
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