The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)

The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)

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GTO-3R

7,538 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th May
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brake fader said:
Unfortunately Rasmus is not good enough for utd , we need someone who turns half chances into goals, someone who makes their own chances as well, look at all class strikers that have played in crap teams they tend to be unstopable or unplayable in some form or another, he just has'nt got anything like that he misses the chances he gets or falls over, another one of ten bobs failures for me stick him on the for sale list.
Obvious troll is obvious..

brake fader

272 posts

36 months

Tuesday 14th May
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GTO-3R said:
brake fader said:
Unfortunately Rasmus is not good enough for utd , we need someone who turns half chances into goals, someone who makes their own chances as well, look at all class strikers that have played in crap teams they tend to be unstopable or unplayable in some form or another, he just has'nt got anything like that he misses the chances he gets or falls over, another one of ten bobs failures for me stick him on the for sale list.
Obvious troll is obvious..
oi just cause you don't like what i said does'nt make me a troll, the game is all about opinions and i have mine based upon watching the games he;s played in.

LF5335

6,132 posts

44 months

Tuesday 14th May
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brake fader said:
Unfortunately Rasmus is not good enough for utd , we need someone who turns half chances into goals, someone who makes their own chances as well, look at all class strikers that have played in crap teams they tend to be unstopable or unplayable in some form or another, he just has'nt got anything like that he misses the chances he gets or falls over, another one of ten bobs failures for me stick him on the for sale list.
You might be right ultimately, but at the moment you’re not. We don’t know how he will pan out, because he’s barely been given the ball this year. When he’s had a run in the side with players who actually pass the ball to him / create chances for him then we’ll pass judgement. Until then I’d worry about a lot of other areas first.

GTO-3R

7,538 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th May
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brake fader said:
GTO-3R said:
brake fader said:
Unfortunately Rasmus is not good enough for utd , we need someone who turns half chances into goals, someone who makes their own chances as well, look at all class strikers that have played in crap teams they tend to be unstopable or unplayable in some form or another, he just has'nt got anything like that he misses the chances he gets or falls over, another one of ten bobs failures for me stick him on the for sale list.
Obvious troll is obvious..
oi just cause you don't like what i said does'nt make me a troll, the game is all about opinions and i have mine based upon watching the games he;s played in.
Anyone referring to the manager as ten bob is obviously talking bks.

simon800

2,473 posts

108 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Rasmus deserves more time of course, and I acknowledge the fact other posters have made around the lack of service etc. Let's see what he can do in a proper system, with a proper pre season behind him - we shouldn't forget he came to us injured.

I do have concerns that I don't see a specific stand out attribute from him (he's not massively technical, he doesn't hold the ball up great, he doesn't use blistering pace to burst past opponents, he doesn't bully defenders in the air, he doesn't drop deep and ping 40 yards passes, he doesn't dribble past 4 people etc etc) , but again maybe whatever his thing is is being hidden by the current system.


brake fader

272 posts

36 months

Tuesday 14th May
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LF5335 said:
brake fader said:
Unfortunately Rasmus is not good enough for utd , we need someone who turns half chances into goals, someone who makes their own chances as well, look at all class strikers that have played in crap teams they tend to be unstopable or unplayable in some form or another, he just has'nt got anything like that he misses the chances he gets or falls over, another one of ten bobs failures for me stick him on the for sale list.
You might be right ultimately, but at the moment you’re not. We don’t know how he will pan out, because he’s barely been given the ball this year. When he’s had a run in the side with players who actually pass the ball to him / create chances for him then we’ll pass judgement. Until then I’d worry about a lot of other areas first.
Yes i get that but he has not shown any kind of class, he's not really a fox in the box nor can he smash one in the top corner, we need another striker for next season even if we keep him.

RoadRunner220

965 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th May
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brake fader said:
we need another striker for next season even if we keep him.
That I agree with

brake fader

272 posts

36 months

Tuesday 14th May
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GTO-3R said:
brake fader said:
GTO-3R said:
brake fader said:
Unfortunately Rasmus is not good enough for utd , we need someone who turns half chances into goals, someone who makes their own chances as well, look at all class strikers that have played in crap teams they tend to be unstopable or unplayable in some form or another, he just has'nt got anything like that he misses the chances he gets or falls over, another one of ten bobs failures for me stick him on the for sale list.
Obvious troll is obvious..
oi just cause you don't like what i said does'nt make me a troll, the game is all about opinions and i have mine based upon watching the games he;s played in.
Anyone referring to the manager as ten bob is obviously talking bks.
Look the guy is not up to being the manager in my opinion, mostly due the signings he's made none of them have proved to be a decent player infact laughable some of the worst the prem as ever seen if he thinks they're good enough we've had it full stop, on top of that there's the lack of coaching the players we have although it's now come about they can't be arsed, but still before that the tactic's or lack of them shone through as well.

Challo

10,309 posts

156 months

Tuesday 14th May
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brake fader said:
Unfortunately Rasmus is not good enough for utd , we need someone who turns half chances into goals, someone who makes their own chances as well, look at all class strikers that have played in crap teams they tend to be unstopable or unplayable in some form or another, he just has'nt got anything like that he misses the chances he gets or falls over, another one of ten bobs failures for me stick him on the for sale list.
You’re going to have to get used to us buying prospects moving forward. SJR has already said as much.

I find it odd that you have already decided that he is not good enough. A young 21 yr old striker, on his first season in the prem, in a struggling side, having to lead the line because we have no other options.

I agree we need another striker in the summer, but to write him off already is laughable.

Barchettaman

6,347 posts

133 months

Tuesday 14th May
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He just needs better service. He runs all game, every game, puts in a massive shift (unlike many of his teammates this season) and shows considerable potential. His head never seems to drop, despite the lack of any recognisable system in that team in the final third.

I think it’s on the manager and the coaching.

Either EtH is telling the wingers to dribble and not pass to him, or he’s telling them to give him decent service and they’re not listening to him. Both scenarios are pretty damning for that manager.

I can’t understand what their tactics are in the final third, ever, and would love for you guys to enlighten me as to what they are.

franki68

10,469 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Barchettaman said:
He just needs better service. He runs all game, every game, puts in a massive shift (unlike many of his teammates this season) and shows considerable potential. His head never seems to drop, despite the lack of any recognisable system in that team in the final third.

I think it’s on the manager and the coaching.

Either EtH is telling the wingers to dribble and not pass to him, or he’s telling them to give him decent service and they’re not listening to him. Both scenarios are pretty damning for that manager.

I can’t understand what their tactics are in the final third, ever, and would love for you guys to enlighten me as to what they are.
The only discernible tactic is to win the ball high up , can’t see any pattern in our attacks ,give it to a forward and see what they do it looks like .

Windlepoons

166 posts

174 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Utds pattern and tactic appears to be...

1) Get the ball into the opponents half
2) Pass the ball long enough for the opponent to get all their men back
3) Lose the ball and conceed because the opponent does a couple of passes and then shoots for goal.

Challo

10,309 posts

156 months

Tuesday 14th May
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franki68 said:
Barchettaman said:
He just needs better service. He runs all game, every game, puts in a massive shift (unlike many of his teammates this season) and shows considerable potential. His head never seems to drop, despite the lack of any recognisable system in that team in the final third.

I think it’s on the manager and the coaching.

Either EtH is telling the wingers to dribble and not pass to him, or he’s telling them to give him decent service and they’re not listening to him. Both scenarios are pretty damning for that manager.

I can’t understand what their tactics are in the final third, ever, and would love for you guys to enlighten me as to what they are.
The only discernible tactic is to win the ball high up , can’t see any pattern in our attacks ,give it to a forward and see what they do it looks like .
I think there is flexibility in our forward play, but to add onto that you have Rashford who is horribly out of form, Garnacho that seems muddled in what he wants to do, greedy wingers who cut in and shoot all the time.

Not great overall

franki68

10,469 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th May
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The under 18s completed a treble the other night .Hopefully a few of these lads will make it through to the first team in the near future .

simon800

2,473 posts

108 months

Wednesday 15th May
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In more good news Wan Bissaka is on his way out too apparently.

A complete donkey of a right back, it goes under the radar how much of a waste of money £50mn on him was.

Good to see some serious moves being made now the new guys are in.

57Ford

4,116 posts

135 months

Wednesday 15th May
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AWB shortly due to return to OT and play a blinder as part of an organised team then. Probably by not giving Rashford and Garnacho a sniff all match before marauding down the wing to fire in a crucial cross.

bstb3

4,153 posts

159 months

Wednesday 15th May
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franki68 said:
The under 18s completed a treble the other night .Hopefully a few of these lads will make it through to the first team in the near future .
Yeah that's great, congratulations to them and promising for the future indeed. The women's team lifted the FA Cup on the weekend too, so lots to be happy about around the club, it's a shame for them the end of season awards were cancelled. Just the senior mens team letting the side down a bit - although it can still be recovered slightly with a result against City.

AWB going (if someone wants him) makes sense, he's not had a great season & isn't next year his last under contract? Better to get something now than nothing then. A sign of smarter decisions being made.

GTO-3R

7,538 posts

214 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Sounds like it all went off in the Spuds thread last night! Glad we're st and out of all that hehe

Fire sale incoming for us this summer with Antony, AWB and Eriksen first on the plank by the sounds of it..

Challo

10,309 posts

156 months

Wednesday 15th May
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GTO-3R said:
Sounds like it all went off in the Spuds thread last night! Glad we're st and out of all that hehe

Fire sale incoming for us this summer with Antony, AWB and Eriksen first on the plank by the sounds of it..
I saw the rumour on twitter that he might be off, but has 1yr left on his deal?

He is very limited with the ball at his feet, but is a good defensive right back. If we want to progress as a team, then he is defiantly one that will need to go.

LF5335

6,132 posts

44 months

Wednesday 15th May
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GTO-3R said:
Sounds like it all went off in the Spuds thread last night! Glad we're st and out of all that hehe

Fire sale incoming for us this summer with Antony, AWB and Eriksen first on the plank by the sounds of it..
I was out with a Spurs supporting mate and we went to the local official supporters bar. Plenty in there cheering their team on, but no real upset when they lost. A few Marcy faced Arsenal fans there towards the end.