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I don't think there's any chance of Amorim due to the fact he wants more control over transfers than we will be willing to give.
Whilst I agree that list isn't inspiring, I think any of them with the same group of players would do better than losing 19 games in a season. Southgate might run it close
Interestingly heading into Brighton away, I saw elsewhere someone had posted a list of every Premier League team we have beaten away from home in the last 2 seasons;
Leeds (relegated)
Leicester (relegated)
Sheffield United (relegated)
Luton (relegated)
Burnley (relegated)
Forest (nearly relegated)
Everton (nearly relegated)
Bournemouth (newly promoted season)
Fulham
Wolves
Villa
So 5 championship level teams, 3 teams on the brink of the championship or just promoted and 3 others.
That said, I think we will beat Brighton this weekend!
Whilst I agree that list isn't inspiring, I think any of them with the same group of players would do better than losing 19 games in a season. Southgate might run it close
Interestingly heading into Brighton away, I saw elsewhere someone had posted a list of every Premier League team we have beaten away from home in the last 2 seasons;
Leeds (relegated)
Leicester (relegated)
Sheffield United (relegated)
Luton (relegated)
Burnley (relegated)
Forest (nearly relegated)
Everton (nearly relegated)
Bournemouth (newly promoted season)
Fulham
Wolves
Villa
So 5 championship level teams, 3 teams on the brink of the championship or just promoted and 3 others.
That said, I think we will beat Brighton this weekend!
Edited by simon800 on Friday 17th May 14:12
LF5335 said:
Having seen the list of potentials I’m starting to worry we’re heading into an even bigger mess.
Southgate, Frank, Potter, even Tuchel are hardly inspiring.
Amorim is the best option I still think.
Out of those maybe Tuchel as he has managed big clubs. Frank seems to be very good tactically, but mainly for smaller clubs with small budgets.Southgate, Frank, Potter, even Tuchel are hardly inspiring.
Amorim is the best option I still think.
Potter and Southgate do not install confidence. Perhaps sticking rather than twisting at the moment is the better option
Challo said:
Out of those maybe Tuchel as he has managed big clubs. Frank seems to be very good tactically, but mainly for smaller clubs with small budgets.
Potter and Southgate do not install confidence. Perhaps sticking rather than twisting at the moment is the better option
Have you seen Brentford play recently? Basically fall over and feign injury from the first minute, continue to do so and hopefully nick a goal from a free kick. I know he’s got worse players on paper than at United, but they really are an atrocious team to watch. Potter and Southgate do not install confidence. Perhaps sticking rather than twisting at the moment is the better option
Potter is pass it back until it’s with the keeper, then pass it sideways and immediately backwards if it’s gone into the opposition half. Look how few goals Brighton and `Chelsea scored under him, especially compared to how well De Zerbi got them scoring after he left Brighton.
Southgate - just awful, awful, awful in every respect. He just sets up defensively not to lose and hope to win courtesy of Kane. Clueless when Plan A fails as they go behind.
Tuchel - best of a bad bunch, but is he any better than ETH?
LF5335 said:
Have you seen Brentford play recently? Basically fall over and feign injury from the first minute, continue to do so and hopefully nick a goal from a free kick. I know he’s got worse players on paper than at United, but they really are an atrocious team to watch.
That's an.....interesting view. Last I saw them play they tore us apart, played good football and had 31 shots. Presumably not all from free kicks.....
They've scored about the same PL goals as us (54 vs 55), despite (a) having more injuries than us (and obviously a vastly smaller/less expensive squad to cope with it) and (b) missing their talismanic striker/star player for half the season
That looks like a decent achievement to me.
The bigger question is why would Frank work when Moyes didn't - a step up from doing a job at a mid table team to doing it at one of the biggest club's in the world is a big one and we tried that only to see it fail.
simon800 said:
That's an.....interesting view.
Last I saw them play they tore us apart, played good football and had 31 shots. Presumably not all from free kicks.....
They've scored about the same PL goals as us (54 vs 55), despite (a) having more injuries than us (and obviously a vastly smaller/less expensive squad to cope with it) and (b) missing their talismanic striker/star player for half the season
That looks like a decent achievement to me.
The bigger question is why would Frank work when Moyes didn't - a step up from doing a job at a mid table team to doing it at one of the biggest club's in the world is a big one and we tried that only to see it fail.
I’d review their season as a whole rather than stats against us. Do they always have 30 odd shots in every game?Last I saw them play they tore us apart, played good football and had 31 shots. Presumably not all from free kicks.....
They've scored about the same PL goals as us (54 vs 55), despite (a) having more injuries than us (and obviously a vastly smaller/less expensive squad to cope with it) and (b) missing their talismanic striker/star player for half the season
That looks like a decent achievement to me.
The bigger question is why would Frank work when Moyes didn't - a step up from doing a job at a mid table team to doing it at one of the biggest club's in the world is a big one and we tried that only to see it fail.
I’d love to see those stats on the amount of time the ball is in play again. I don’t think Brentford would be high up in the table. I could be wrong though. It has been known once or twice
simon800 said:
I don't think there's any chance of Amorim due to the fact he wants more control over transfers than we will be willing to give.
Whilst I agree that list isn't inspiring, I think any of them with the same group of players would do better than losing 19 games in a season. Southgate might run it close
Interestingly heading into Brighton away, I saw elsewhere someone had posted a list of every Premier League team we have beaten away from home in the last 2 seasons;
Leeds (relegated)
Leicester (relegated)
Sheffield United (relegated)
Luton (relegated)
Burnley (relegated)
Forest (nearly relegated)
Everton (nearly relegated)
Bournemouth (newly promoted season)
Fulham
Wolves
Villa
So 5 championship level teams, 3 teams on the brink of the championship or just promoted and 3 others.
That said, I think we will beat Brighton this weekend!
We also beat Coventry 3-3.Whilst I agree that list isn't inspiring, I think any of them with the same group of players would do better than losing 19 games in a season. Southgate might run it close
Interestingly heading into Brighton away, I saw elsewhere someone had posted a list of every Premier League team we have beaten away from home in the last 2 seasons;
Leeds (relegated)
Leicester (relegated)
Sheffield United (relegated)
Luton (relegated)
Burnley (relegated)
Forest (nearly relegated)
Everton (nearly relegated)
Bournemouth (newly promoted season)
Fulham
Wolves
Villa
So 5 championship level teams, 3 teams on the brink of the championship or just promoted and 3 others.
That said, I think we will beat Brighton this weekend!
Edited by simon800 on Friday 17th May 14:12
classicaholic said:
It comes as a shock that Man U are fans are thinking that the worse manager (on stats) we have ever had is a better choice than anyone else that we can get.
With so many moving parts behind the scenes, perhaps it's the best move right now. If it's still going to s
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