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RoadToad84

666 posts

35 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Stephen Baxter is a favourite of mine. Very much hard sci fi, and he's prone to covering huge periods of time. Very compelling though.

captain_cynic

12,219 posts

96 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
The Lost Fleet series may work for you. It is still accessible scifi but it does make mention of the problems of trying to fire at targets at relativistic speeds, which may or may not make things interesting. This does, from memory, fall under the Mil-fi sub-genre (if that's your bag then maybe Orphanage by Robert Buettner or Terms of Enlistment by Marko Kloos may also work)
He's already mentioned Terms of Enlistment biggrin

Also it looks like Kloos is writing another novel in the Frontlines universe called Scorpio https://www.markokloos.com/?p=3150

Kloos other series, The Paladium Wars is also quite good, looks like Book 4 is being written (3 kind of left a lot of unanswered questions).

Other Mil-Fi I'd recommend, The Expeditionary Force series - Craig Alanson and the Old Mans War series by John Scalzi.

glazbagun

14,298 posts

198 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Sycamore said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on similar books in the vein of "believable sci-fi"?

I loved The Martin, Project HM, Artemis, Terms of Enlistment etc as they're set only a slight amount into the future so I can somewhat take the storylines as being believable.

"Captain Snagarian activated his Werofluren Drive to create a woopydoopy portal to teleport the Onomoato to the planet of Omicron Persei 8" I find difficult to follow and get into biggrin
I'd say that Adrian Tchaikovsky's "Dogs of War" (and its sequel) are just about within this remit, given they are about bioengineered uplifted animals, and the sociopolitical ramifications of this.

(Plus Rex is a very good boy)
His Pushing Ice is close as well. It does have a bit of WTFery, but our POV is the same as that of the crew.

Also the Red Mars Trilogy. I thought this was amazing when I read it.

gf5mez

14 posts

45 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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glazbagun said:
His Pushing Ice is close as well. It does have a bit of WTFery, but our POV is the same as that of the crew.

Also the Red Mars Trilogy. I thought this was amazing when I read it.

The Mars trilogy is unparalleled...hands down the best SF series ever written. I re-read it every few years (now on Kindle as my original paperbacks are quite worn!). We've almost reached the year the story starts now too - I remember it seemed like the far future when I first read it! Still remains believable, ignoring a few minor contrivances for story-telling purposes.

WrekinCrew

4,643 posts

151 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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RoadToad84 said:
Stephen Baxter is a favourite of mine. Very much hard sci fi, and he's prone to covering huge periods of time. Very compelling though.
Agree until Galaxias which was awful.

havoc

30,210 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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RizzoTheRat said:
And as CC says, Rex is a good boy!
We all like Rex.

grumbledoak

31,575 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Sycamore said:
Does anyone have any recommendations on similar books in the vein of "believable sci-fi"?

I loved The Martin, Project HM, Artemis, Terms of Enlistment etc as they're set only a slight amount into the future so I can somewhat take the storylines as being believable.

"Captain Snagarian activated his Werofluren Drive to create a woopydoopy portal to teleport the Onomoato to the planet of Omicron Persei 8" I find difficult to follow and get into biggrin
It might be worth checking out early Sci Fi. They pre-date modern hard Sci Fi and are often set in a more familiar future.

e.g. Alfred Bester, Robert Heinlein, Asimov
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Scienc...

or check out the Sci Fi Masterworks collection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Masterworks






havoc

30,210 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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gf5mez said:
The Mars trilogy is unparalleled...hands down the best SF series ever written. I re-read it every few years (now on Kindle as my original paperbacks are quite worn!).
Same here.

Beautiful books, with such breadth to them.

NNH

1,524 posts

133 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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havoc said:
RizzoTheRat said:
And as CC says, Rex is a good boy!
We all like Rex.
Rex is the best boy

Lefty

16,186 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Two of my favourite novels are Recursion and Dark Matter by a fella called Blake Crouch. The sort of thing you’d imagine Christopher Nolan turning into films. Recursion is about memory and Dark Matter about superposition. Hard-science fiction rather than hard science-fiction if you see what I mean.

Anyone got any suggestions of similar stuff?

Both of those are being turned into mini series by the way, dark matter (with Jennifer Connolly - yum) just wrapped

RoadToad84

666 posts

35 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Lefty said:
Two of my favourite novels are Recursion and Dark Matter by a fella called Blake Crouch. The sort of thing you’d imagine Christopher Nolan turning into films. Recursion is about memory and Dark Matter about superposition. Hard-science fiction rather than hard science-fiction if you see what I mean.

Anyone got any suggestions of similar stuff?

Both of those are being turned into mini series by the way, dark matter (with Jennifer Connolly - yum) just wrapped
Was Dark Matter the one with the parallel universe box?

Lefty

16,186 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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RoadToad84 said:
Lefty said:
Two of my favourite novels are Recursion and Dark Matter by a fella called Blake Crouch. The sort of thing you’d imagine Christopher Nolan turning into films. Recursion is about memory and Dark Matter about superposition. Hard-science fiction rather than hard science-fiction if you see what I mean.

Anyone got any suggestions of similar stuff?

Both of those are being turned into mini series by the way, dark matter (with Jennifer Connolly - yum) just wrapped
Was Dark Matter the one with the parallel universe box?
That’s the one.

RoadToad84

666 posts

35 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Lefty said:
That’s the one.
I enjoyed that. Didn't know about the TV series. Look forward to that then!

Lefty

16,186 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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RoadToad84 said:
Lefty said:
That’s the one.
I enjoyed that. Didn't know about the TV series. Look forward to that then!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19231492/

If you haven’t already, try recursion, it’s even better. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve read it.

His latest novel is called Upgrade, it’s about gene editing and I didn’t find it quite so good but it’s less “physics” based and just less interesting to me.

RoadToad84

666 posts

35 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Lefty said:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19231492/

If you haven’t already, try recursion, it’s even better. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve read it.

His latest novel is called Upgrade, it’s about gene editing and I didn’t find it quite so good but it’s less “physics” based and just less interesting to me.
Brill thanks!

havoc

30,210 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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Lefty said:
Anyone got any suggestions of similar stuff?
Greg Bear is probably worth looking into.

The stories may seem a little dated now (he was writing in the 80s and 90s mainly), but his concepts are still superb.

Eon is the one you should start with. Another one I've re-read multiple times. Oh, and google hallucigenia once things REALLY kick-off (not before...you'll know when).
Beyond that, if you're after the science, probably Blood Music and the two Darwin novels. But look into most of his sci-fi, at least the ones where he created the concept, rather than writing for someone else.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,853 posts

273 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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havoc said:
Greg Bear is probably worth looking into.
I have a number of his books in paperback bought back in the day. I seem to remember really enjoying them but eventually drifting away from him (I don't even recall why now) but there were some interesting concepts, for sure.

David Brin is another good author. Several of his books were quite prescient (Earth springs to mind), and an interesting concept on distribution of self (via 3D-printed golums) was in Kiln People. Also Heart of the Comet (with Gregory Benford) and he also wrote The Postman (don't let the mediocre film adaptation starring Kevin Costner put you off).

John Barnes' Mother of Storms was a good read, as was A Million Open Doors (The first of "four novels in the Thousand Cultures series [which] include the theme of the effects of globalization, at an interstellar scale, on isolated societies" ~~ Wikipedia)

(None of the above are recent books)

edit: And no list is complete without Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson.


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Wednesday 28th June 23:24

glazbagun

14,298 posts

198 months

Wednesday 28th June 2023
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havoc said:
gf5mez said:
The Mars trilogy is unparalleled...hands down the best SF series ever written. I re-read it every few years (now on Kindle as my original paperbacks are quite worn!).
Same here.

Beautiful books, with such breadth to them.
I might re-read them. I remember it took me three goes to get into, then I brought it on holiday and smashed it in three days cover to cover. Their balance of utopia meeting cynicism, the distinct characters, corporate greed, conflicting ideologies and intergenerational disagreements, etc, really gave it a feel of future history.

I've bought 2312 so I'll give that a read first. But I don't see Red Mars mentioned so often these days, which I think surprising given the prominence of Mars missions.

DodgyGeezer

40,682 posts

191 months

Thursday 29th June 2023
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captain_cynic said:
DodgyGeezer said:
The Lost Fleet series may work for you. It is still accessible scifi but it does make mention of the problems of trying to fire at targets at relativistic speeds, which may or may not make things interesting. This does, from memory, fall under the Mil-fi sub-genre (if that's your bag then maybe Orphanage by Robert Buettner or Terms of Enlistment by Marko Kloos may also work)
He's already mentioned Terms of Enlistmentbiggrin

Also it looks like Kloos is writing another novel in the Frontlines universe called Scorpio https://www.markokloos.com/?p=3150

Kloos other series, The Paladium Wars is also quite good, looks like Book 4 is being written (3 kind of left a lot of unanswered questions).

Other Mil-Fi I'd recommend, The Expeditionary Force series - Craig Alanson and the Old Mans War series by John Scalzi.
Oops frown


I also recall Falkenberg's Legion Series as being rather good and I'm sure I've read the 'prequels' Janissary (Jerry Pournelle and assorted coauthors, including Larry Niven)

jet_noise

5,671 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th June 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
The Lost Fleet series may work for you. It is still accessible scifi but it does make mention of the problems of trying to fire at targets at relativistic speeds, which may or may not make things interesting. This does, from memory, fall under the Mil-fi sub-genre (if that's your bag then maybe Orphanage by Robert Buettner or Terms of Enlistment by Marko Kloos may also work)
And of the same "universe" (as the Lost Fleet) Stark's War. More compactly resolved than the mildly overextended (IMHO) but still enjoyable Lost Fleet.