Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?
Discussion
TheDeuce said:
But Danica did only manage to compensate to a certain level, and then she got no further.
IndyCar and NASCAR are famously physical. She won in IndyCar, IIRC bloody nearly won the Indy 500 and stuck her Cup car on pole in Daytona. If the physical argument is to be believed, she must have been so much better than her male counterparts in every other department to make up the difference.
Which of course is rubbish. The physical argument doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
TheDeuce said:
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
Physical strength gives a driver control, and from that point all their other attributes become more effective.
Tell me you know nothing about driving a car fast without telling me you know nothing about driving a car fast.
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
Physical strength gives a driver control, and from that point all their other attributes become more effective.
Tell me you know nothing about driving a car fast without telling me you know nothing about driving a car fast.The strength to remain in control and the stamina to do so for upto 2 hours is considerable.
TheDeuce said:
So when you race, you don't feel having the strength to firmly locate yourself and your head in the car helps? You need immense strength and stamina to resist the forces in F1 - if you can't resist you get battered about and how can that possiblly result in perfect car control and placement?
The strength to remain in control and the stamina to do so for upto 2 hours is considerable.
Explain how a woman is incapable of having sufficient muscle to overcome G forces of an F1 car (bear in mind when you answer that they can overcome the G force to pilot a jet fighter). The strength to remain in control and the stamina to do so for upto 2 hours is considerable.
Leithen said:
The logical consequence of such an argument is that Danica Patrick must have been astonishingly talented to be able to make up such an obvious physical deficit to her male counterparts.
The reality is that physical strength is only a small part of a complex equation.
It’s still a part.The reality is that physical strength is only a small part of a complex equation.
The claim that it’s only a small part is unevidenced.
Forester1965 said:
Explain how a woman is incapable of having sufficient muscle to overcome G forces of an F1 car (bear in mind when you answer that they can overcome the G force to pilot a jet fighter).
Here, have a friend explain this to you.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36696264/#:~:text=...
Forester1965 said:
TheDeuce said:
So when you race, you don't feel having the strength to firmly locate yourself and your head in the car helps? You need immense strength and stamina to resist the forces in F1 - if you can't resist you get battered about and how can that possiblly result in perfect car control and placement?
The strength to remain in control and the stamina to do so for upto 2 hours is considerable.
Explain how a woman is incapable of having sufficient muscle to overcome G forces of an F1 car (bear in mind when you answer that they can overcome the G force to pilot a jet fighter). The strength to remain in control and the stamina to do so for upto 2 hours is considerable.
I can't explain why women apparently can't develop the same strength in the same way with the same stamina. Go ask an expert if you want the science. I just pointed out it matters and they apparently can't match the men.
If they could, we'd have the occasional championship result to demonstrate as much surely?
I refuse to be told that accuracy, which is what car control comes down to, is not aided by core strength. Everything in life that requires accuracy is enhanced by strength.
TheDeuce said:
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
Physical strength gives a driver control, and from that point all their other attributes become more effective.
Tell me you know nothing about driving a car fast without telling me you know nothing about driving a car fast.The strength to remain in control and the stamina to do so for upto 2 hours is considerable.
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
RacerMike said:
TheDeuce said:
Physical strength gives a driver control, and from that point all their other attributes become more effective.
Tell me you know nothing about driving a car fast without telling me you know nothing about driving a car fast.The strength to remain in control and the stamina to do so for upto 2 hours is considerable.
Forester1965 said:
TheDeuce said:
Your head has movement and being in control of that makes a big difference. F1 drivers talk about it all the time.
You still haven't answered why a woman can't have strong enough muscles to cope with 5g.It's like you clearly struggle to hang onto a discussion without repeating the same questions and repeatedly ignoring the same answers.
TheDeuce said:
What do you mean 'still'? I already replied to you above, I'm no expert in 'why' but they cleary struggle when it comes to extended periods of coping with such a battering of forces. There's an issue with strength.
It's like you clearly struggle to hang onto a discussion without repeating the same questions and repeatedly ignoring the same answers.
What evidence do you have that a woman is physically incapable of coping with 1.5hrs driving an F1 car at full speed?It's like you clearly struggle to hang onto a discussion without repeating the same questions and repeatedly ignoring the same answers.
Forester1965 said:
TheDeuce said:
What do you mean 'still'? I already replied to you above, I'm no expert in 'why' but they cleary struggle when it comes to extended periods of coping with such a battering of forces. There's an issue with strength.
It's like you clearly struggle to hang onto a discussion without repeating the same questions and repeatedly ignoring the same answers.
What evidence do you have that a woman is physically incapable of coping with 1.5hrs driving an F1 car at full speed?It's like you clearly struggle to hang onto a discussion without repeating the same questions and repeatedly ignoring the same answers.
Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
TheDeuce said:
Forester1965 said:
TheDeuce said:
What do you mean 'still'? I already replied to you above, I'm no expert in 'why' but they cleary struggle when it comes to extended periods of coping with such a battering of forces. There's an issue with strength.
It's like you clearly struggle to hang onto a discussion without repeating the same questions and repeatedly ignoring the same answers.
What evidence do you have that a woman is physically incapable of coping with 1.5hrs driving an F1 car at full speed?It's like you clearly struggle to hang onto a discussion without repeating the same questions and repeatedly ignoring the same answers.
Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
TheDeuce said:
Full speed is the problem.
Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
None, then.Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
You probably said the 4 minute mile was not within human capability back in the day, because it hadn't been done.
Forester1965 said:
TheDeuce said:
Full speed is the problem.
Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
None, then.Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
You probably said the 4 minute mile was not within human capability back in the day, because it hadn't been done.
In other words there's zero evidence that the penguins won't conquer the world and enslave us by Christmas.
TheDeuce said:
Forester1965 said:
TheDeuce said:
Full speed is the problem.
Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
None, then.Assuming you mean full speed, as in, the competitive pace of the car..?
If so my evidence is that not a single woman has ever come close the grade at anything like F1 level, over a race distance.
You probably said the 4 minute mile was not within human capability back in the day, because it hadn't been done.
In other words there's zero evidence that the penguins won't conquer the world and enslave us by Christmas.
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