RE: 2024 Morgan Plus Six | PH Review

RE: 2024 Morgan Plus Six | PH Review

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biggbn

23,636 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th May
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mikebrownhill said:
biggbn said:
VixenExige said:
Anyone who buys a Morgan with an auto box needs to take a step back and ask themselves what car they wanted again... because an auto Morgan probably isn't it.
I'd love an auto, particualley a good box with shifters.
I've got a 6 speed manual Morgan (2014 Roadster) and with the benefit of that experience I would definitely want an auto with paddles - I do also have an old six pot M135i (2014 again) with the ZF box - if I could put that drive-train into my Roadster I think it would be ideal, which of course is exactly what Morgan have done!
I would also say though that any Morgan is an indulgence and should really only be considered as a bit of fun for the weekend and not taken too seriously...
Oh, an indulgence for sure, but I'd want to daily one.

Twoshoe

863 posts

185 months

Sunday 12th May
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Why on earth would you want to drive it around with the roof up on what looks like a nice day?

strangehighways

480 posts

166 months

Sunday 12th May
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Interior ruined by the shifter. Looks so so strange after all the effort that went into the rest of it. Very odd and unsatisfying to see that.

Maccmike8

1,042 posts

55 months

Sunday 12th May
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VixenExige said:
Anyone who buys a Morgan with an auto box needs to take a step back and ask themselves what car they wanted again... because an auto Morgan probably isn't it.
Dumb comment.

J0021365

5 posts

10 months

Sunday 12th May
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Six paragraphs in it does appear to read as if it were a fairytale written to excite the reader rather than reflect something real or relevant. Apologies, just conscious of over imaginative ramblings as opposed to objective reflections 😀

ravon

600 posts

283 months

Sunday 12th May
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I’ve been a Morgan fan for most of my life , I don’t really know why , but there is just something delightfully eccentric about them , and they look wonderfully timeless . Now in old age I’m thinking a Plus Six would give more joy than a 997.2 GT3 RS that I currently run . The lovely Morgan man at Bell and Colvill loaned an early Plus Six to my wife and I, a couple of years ago , we both loved it , but had other commitments and ended up with a 718 Spyder instead . But every time I drive passed Bell and Colvill my memory is re energised. The recent Autocar Road Test of the Plus Six worried me somewhat , on two occasions they mention the lack of stiffness of the chassis structure , does anyone know about this please ?

bobthemonkey

3,845 posts

217 months

Sunday 12th May
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strangehighways said:
Interior ruined by the shifter. Looks so so strange after all the effort that went into the rest of it. Very odd and unsatisfying to see that.
Unfortunately, the auto shifter is a homologated part, and much more 'regulated' than a steering wheel.

MF35

420 posts

22 months

Sunday 12th May
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bobthemonkey said:
strangehighways said:
Interior ruined by the shifter. Looks so so strange after all the effort that went into the rest of it. Very odd and unsatisfying to see that.
Unfortunately, the auto shifter is a homologated part, and much more 'regulated' than a steering wheel.
Unfortunate. Rest of it is great. But that shifter is too modern looking. Perhaps the 4-cylinder then.

GTRene

16,723 posts

225 months

Sunday 12th May
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ravon said:
I’ve been a Morgan fan for most of my life , I don’t really know why , but there is just something delightfully eccentric about them , and they look wonderfully timeless . Now in old age I’m thinking a Plus Six would give more joy than a 997.2 GT3 RS that I currently run . The lovely Morgan man at Bell and Colvill loaned an early Plus Six to my wife and I, a couple of years ago , we both loved it , but had other commitments and ended up with a 718 Spyder instead . But every time I drive passed Bell and Colvill my memory is re energised. The recent Autocar Road Test of the Plus Six worried me somewhat , on two occasions they mention the lack of stiffness of the chassis structure , does anyone know about this please ?
ow? thats strange indeed, cause Morgan mentioned that this is their best/strongest chassis?

then how can autocar mentioning lack of, I bet they also driven the older models which are way less stiff, so sounds strange to me, but then I never driven a old or late model.

GTRene

16,723 posts

225 months

Sunday 12th May
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MF35 said:
bobthemonkey said:
strangehighways said:
Interior ruined by the shifter. Looks so so strange after all the effort that went into the rest of it. Very odd and unsatisfying to see that.
Unfortunately, the auto shifter is a homologated part, and much more 'regulated' than a steering wheel.
Unfortunate. Rest of it is great. But that shifter is too modern looking. Perhaps the 4-cylinder then.
did you not seen the Plus 6 picture I uploaded, you can change that, here again, a plus 6 automatic with changed shifter so it gets a classic look ala manual, but its not.


Debaser

6,095 posts

262 months

Monday 13th May
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GTRene said:
oh, and I love that first picture, makes me want one even more :-) mystic, adventure, good old times?

Cool picture. Does anyone know where this is?

Sevenman

746 posts

193 months

Monday 13th May
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ravon said:
I’ve been a Morgan fan for most of my life , I don’t really know why , but there is just something delightfully eccentric about them , and they look wonderfully timeless . Now in old age I’m thinking a Plus Six would give more joy than a 997.2 GT3 RS that I currently run . The lovely Morgan man at Bell and Colvill loaned an early Plus Six to my wife and I, a couple of years ago , we both loved it , but had other commitments and ended up with a 718 Spyder instead . But every time I drive passed Bell and Colvill my memory is re energised. The recent Autocar Road Test of the Plus Six worried me somewhat , on two occasions they mention the lack of stiffness of the chassis structure , does anyone know about this please ?
I haven't read the Autocar piece. Stiffness may be relative to a 997.2 GT3 RS. It's certainly a lot stiffer / modern-feeling that Morgans of old. A completely different and more modern car.

For a sunny day drive, I know which I would take out of the Morgan and the GT3. But it depends on your requirements. There are lots of things the GT3 is better at, but as you note, what be the most fun?

However, Morgans don't have a boot so I am out.





CABC

5,610 posts

102 months

Monday 13th May
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Sevenman said:
ravon said:
I’ve been a Morgan fan for most of my life , I don’t really know why , but there is just something delightfully eccentric about them , and they look wonderfully timeless . Now in old age I’m thinking a Plus Six would give more joy than a 997.2 GT3 RS that I currently run . The lovely Morgan man at Bell and Colvill loaned an early Plus Six to my wife and I, a couple of years ago , we both loved it , but had other commitments and ended up with a 718 Spyder instead . But every time I drive passed Bell and Colvill my memory is re energised. The recent Autocar Road Test of the Plus Six worried me somewhat , on two occasions they mention the lack of stiffness of the chassis structure , does anyone know about this please ?
I haven't read the Autocar piece. Stiffness may be relative to a 997.2 GT3 RS. It's certainly a lot stiffer / modern-feeling that Morgans of old. A completely different and more modern car.

For a sunny day drive, I know which I would take out of the Morgan and the GT3. But it depends on your requirements. There are lots of things the GT3 is better at, but as you note, what be the most fun?

However, Morgans don't have a boot so I am out.
I've just read the Autocar article. I wonder if they've confused soft damping with stiffness? It would seem odd that a bonded alu chassis in such a light car could display such lack of stiffness? But then nothing should surprise us from Morgan!

That said these aren't cars for 10/10 driving. yes, a swift drive can be enjoyed because of light weight and low seating but not in the same manner as a hot hatch or modern sports car. "hustle" would seem the appropriate verb.

GTRene

16,723 posts

225 months

Monday 13th May
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Sevenman said:
I haven't read the Autocar piece. Stiffness may be relative to a 997.2 GT3 RS. It's certainly a lot stiffer / modern-feeling that Morgans of old. A completely different and more modern car.

For a sunny day drive, I know which I would take out of the Morgan and the GT3. But it depends on your requirements. There are lots of things the GT3 is better at, but as you note, what be the most fun?

However, Morgans don't have a boot so I am out.
if you buy the Aero models, those have a boot, also real side windows up/down and ow, a V8 :-)
but some are a bit les nice with their fat ass, some look good though.

John 252

3 posts

149 months

Tuesday 14th May
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MADE IN ENGLAND TO LAST FOREVER.

el anonimo

1 posts

Tuesday 14th May
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Buenos días, me lo compro, no puedo, no tengo dinero suficiente.

charge

539 posts

237 months

Wednesday 15th May
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el anonimo said:
Buenos días, me lo compro, no puedo, no tengo dinero suficiente.
(Good morning, I'll buy it, I can't, I don't have enough money.)

Good morning. Best thing you can do then, is unsubscribe and bore off.

Always liked the way they looked.
Drove my first Morgan last year, and the ride was so shocking I was surprised it had a steering wheel and not string connected to what felt like a scaffold board with wheels attached.
To be fair not driven the latest version, but saying its better feels like saying you have upgraded from a bucket to a flushing toilet, in your outdoor privy.

biggbn

23,636 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th May
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charge said:
(Good morning, I'll buy it, I can't, I don't have enough money.)

Good morning. Best thing you can do then, is unsubscribe and bore off.

Always liked the way they looked.
Drove my first Morgan last year, and the ride was so shocking I was surprised it had a steering wheel and not string connected to what felt like a scaffold board with wheels attached.
To be fair not driven the latest version, but saying its better feels like saying you have upgraded from a bucket to a flushing toilet, in your outdoor privy.
I think that archaic feeling would be a huge part of the appeal for me

phaeton760

9 posts

41 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I agree with so many comments here - never really wanted or desired a Morgan but respected their continued success and adherence to their brand and heritage. Also agree the BMW gear shifter turned me off buying a 2020 Plus 6, and I couldn’t learnt to love the rear end design despite liking the new front end and the interior.

And then I found this Aero 8 S5, V8. I think it’s gorgeous, countless people agree, and it’s fun enough with an auto box and paddle shifters to not worry about a manual.

Plenty I could be critical about but it looks great and sounds like a war starting. I am though very excited to see what Pininfarina do, although it might just put this one in the shade.



NDA

21,676 posts

226 months

Wednesday 15th May
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| have an Aero +8 and with a 4.8 V8 a manual shift is pretty useless... I test drove one before spec'ing a paddle shift on mine. I think a manual suits a smaller engine Morgan where you need to wring out the performance.

As an aside, the aluminium chassis is leagues ahead of the traditional chassis with leaf spring and sliding pillar suspension. I had one previously and it was like a medieval ox cart.