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Unloved supercars/ Forgotten supercars/ Rare cars

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dudleybloke

19,986 posts

188 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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anyone know if any of sbarro's creations got sold to the public?

scovette

430 posts

210 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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£50k won't buy you a Keith Black engine? It must be really special - a friend recently bought a low mileage 600hp Keith Black 572 for less than £10k. There's a new one on race-cars.com for $30k inclunding the fuel injection system.

Edited by scovette on Sunday 18th July 23:12

stick100

7,017 posts

170 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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what planet are you on alright the engine has no done a stoke in 30 years but this is not some barn find here the interior is very good shape just 30 years worth of dust the body is fibre glass which has been dry stored for its hole life so noproblems there as for the engine a complete rebuild would not cost more then 2000 pounds including parts i know i do this st for a living

stick100

7,017 posts

170 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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an origanl keith black engine built by the man him self you would not get for 10,000

Carfolio

1,124 posts

183 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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dudleybloke said:
anyone know if any of sbarro's creations got sold to the public?
The Sbarro Stash seems to have beeen made in some numbers, even if they are miniscule (a quick google says 5).

14 examples of the Windhound were said to be made. Also, Sbarro made GT40 & BMW 328 Roadster replicas, I am pretty sure that those sold in much larger quantities.

scovette

430 posts

210 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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stick100 said:
an origanl keith black engine built by the man him self you would not get for 10,000
Hope someone buys it and gets it back on the road. thumbup

Benni

3,520 posts

213 months

Sunday 18th July 2010
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Mattygooner :
The 911 flatnose with 6 pipes at the back was the 80´s version of a
Gemballa Avalanche :
http://www.motor-klassik.de/fahrberichte/gemballa-...

click through gallery for 6 pipes pic

Carparticus

1,038 posts

204 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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From the sublime to the reerdickulus ..

















ZesPak

24,450 posts

198 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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Carparticus said:
Has that actually been made? Was it roadworthy?

deevlash

10,442 posts

239 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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ZesPak said:
Carparticus said:
Has that actually been made? Was it roadworthy?
thats the prototype Alfa Brera, they actually made it and the CEO took it on holiday with him. The actual production Brera is nowhere near as nice though.

Carfolio

1,124 posts

183 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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ZesPak said:
Carparticus said:
Has that actually been made? Was it roadworthy?
To the best of my knowledge, it was. Pity the production Brera was not quite as stunning.

Carparticus

1,038 posts

204 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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deevlash said:
ZesPak said:
Carparticus said:
Has that actually been made? Was it roadworthy?
thats the prototype Alfa Brera, they actually made it and the CEO took it on holiday with him. The actual production Brera is nowhere near as nice though.


Did the CEO ever come back ... ? Might explain why the production car was not quite what everybody was expecting.



Carparticus

1,038 posts

204 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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ZesPak said:
Carparticus said:
Has that actually been made? Was it roadworthy?

Yes - the concept was apparently a full working roadworthy machine but with unresolved suspension.

It also had a 400BHP Maserati V8…

I put my deposit down based on that prospect.

… and asked for it back when the production one arrived with a two.point.nothing engine, and stumpy looks.




















Negative Creep

25,018 posts

229 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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Carparticus said:
deevlash said:
ZesPak said:
Carparticus said:
Has that actually been made? Was it roadworthy?
thats the prototype Alfa Brera, they actually made it and the CEO took it on holiday with him. The actual production Brera is nowhere near as nice though.


Did the CEO ever come back ... ? Might explain why the production car was not quite what everybody was expecting.

Or it was involved in a bad accident

jamieboy

5,911 posts

231 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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Carparticus said:
Yes - the concept was apparently a full working roadworthy machine but with unresolved suspension.

It also had a 400BHP Maserati V8…

I put my deposit down based on that prospect.

… and asked for it back when the production one arrived with a two.point.nothing engine, and stumpy looks.
I've never really understood that. Alfa said at the time that the Italdesign Alfa Brera would never reach production "in this form". The running gear more-or-less reached production in the 8C, and the mistake I think they made was calling the production car Brera - if it had been called the <whatever> I reckon people might have been delighted that it took so many styling cues from the Brera concept, rather than complaining that the £24k production car didn't have carbonfibre bodywork, gullwing doors, and a 400bhp V8. smile

Twincam16

27,646 posts

260 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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Negative Creep said:
Carparticus said:
deevlash said:
ZesPak said:
Carparticus said:
Has that actually been made? Was it roadworthy?
thats the prototype Alfa Brera, they actually made it and the CEO took it on holiday with him. The actual production Brera is nowhere near as nice though.


Did the CEO ever come back ... ? Might explain why the production car was not quite what everybody was expecting.

Or it was involved in a bad accident
According to Giugiaro, it was a but unsorted, a bit of an animal. It would shred its rear tyres wherever it went.

I suppose the 8C Competizione was the closest thing in terms of technical specification to the concept Brera, and IMO, even better-looking too.

rudecherub

1,997 posts

168 months

Monday 19th July 2010
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stick100 said:
what planet are you on alright the engine has no done a stoke in 30 years but this is not some barn find here the interior is very good shape just 30 years worth of dust the body is fibre glass which has been dry stored for its hole life so noproblems there as for the engine a complete rebuild would not cost more then 2000 pounds including parts i know i do this st for a living
My thoughts were based on a couple of things, ie what people have paid for Jensen cars in recent times, and personal experience of FF restoration costs.

My dad had an FFIII restored by Cropredy Bridge 2002/3 and was @ 35k on top of the purchase price of good sound usable car. FFIII are v.rare as there were only 15 of them, so command a premium on the premium you pay for an FF1 or II

I don't know enough about the value of genuine built by the man Kieth Black engine, ie what his name brings in terms of added value to the car, I guess if you could point us in the direction of some sold at auction say it would help. quick google shows me £20k will buy a new hemi crate motor with similar power numbers.

It does depend entirely on what the seller believes the car is worth, ie a starting price - and what the market is willing to pay, most owners spend the £75k money for the look of the Italian designed car, with it's trade mark fishbowl tail, the plastic William Townsend design isn't as handsome IMHO as the FF or Interceptor

dinkel

27,006 posts

260 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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A few Iso Rivolta snaps:


Big Yank lump in an Italian suit.


There it comings thundering down Hugenholtz.


It crawled to the lead and won the race because the leading Lotus Elan spun . . .


Pretty huge family hack.

Dunno about unloved, but rare it is indeedy . . .

dinkel

27,006 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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Tom Price in his '61 Aston Zag.

Mattygooner

5,301 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd July 2010
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Benni said:
Mattygooner :
The 911 flatnose with 6 pipes at the back was the 80´s version of a
Gemballa Avalanche :
http://www.motor-klassik.de/fahrberichte/gemballa-...

click through gallery for 6 pipes pic
Thank you kind sir, i don't suppose you remember the book? i must have been around 9 when i saw it.