Servicing woes, 981 Cayman GTS
Discussion
andygo said:
I have added just over a litre of oil to get the level to indicate full.
The OPC has told me that they bleed the brakes without removing the wheels as they bleed them whilst on the ramps. Is that even possible?
Litre is a fair wee bit to judge short, why they never put a dipstick in these things I’ll never know!The OPC has told me that they bleed the brakes without removing the wheels as they bleed them whilst on the ramps. Is that even possible?
It could possibly be done but you would need 20 inch wheels and it would depend on which ones for access.
Tbh it does sound a bit far fetched as it’s 100 times easier to do with the wheel off and that’s a 2 min job, tricky one, if get that fluid tester linked above.
andygo said:
I have added just over a litre of oil to get the level to indicate full.
The OPC has told me that they bleed the brakes without removing the wheels as they bleed them whilst on the ramps. Is that even possible?
I managed to bleed my brakes without removing the wheels, it's fiddly but doable The OPC has told me that they bleed the brakes without removing the wheels as they bleed them whilst on the ramps. Is that even possible?
andygo said:
I have added just over a litre of oil to get the level to indicate full.
The OPC has told me that they bleed the brakes without removing the wheels as they bleed them whilst on the ramps. Is that even possible?
This doesn’t make sense to me - why would you add oil when you’ve just paid for an oil service? Surely you should have ask the OPC to check what they’ve done.The OPC has told me that they bleed the brakes without removing the wheels as they bleed them whilst on the ramps. Is that even possible?
Regarding bleeding the brakes, if they work and you’re happy with them, why waste your time speculating?
If I were you I’d have complained to the OPC about the oil and use that in accusatory way to question whether they’d done the other work and let them prove that they had. I certainly wouldn’t be substituting work that I’d already paid for.
plynchy said:
Surely they'd want the wheels off to inspect the brakes and suspension components??
They can do it without taking the wheels off. I've been present for brake and suspension checks for one of my Porsches on a couple of occasions. I'm an ex race car engineer, and I was impressed with the ingenuity of the measuring equipment used, and that they were able to accurately check both disc and pad thickness without taking the wheels off. Had a proper look over it all next time I had the wheels off myself though... 
maz8062 said:
The OPC has told me that they bleed the brakes without removing the wheels as they bleed them whilst on the ramps. Is that even possible?
Yes, absolutely commonplace on many vehicles. If there's room to get a bleed pipe on and loosen the bleed nipples, no reason to remove the wheels unnecessarily.Edited by LiamH66 on Sunday 12th May 22:25
maz8062 said:
This doesn’t make sense to me - why would you add oil when you’ve just paid for an oil service? Surely you should have ask the OPC to check what they’ve done.
Regarding bleeding the brakes, if they work and you’re happy with them, why waste your time speculating?
If I were you I’d have complained to the OPC about the oil and use that in accusatory way to question whether they’d done the other work and let them prove that they had. I certainly wouldn’t be substituting work that I’d already paid for.
The OPC offered to fill up the oil, but taking a 35 drive each way to get some oil seemed a bit of a faff tbh. I filled it up little by little myself so I knew exactly how much as in there. The car typically uses no oil between changes.Regarding bleeding the brakes, if they work and you’re happy with them, why waste your time speculating?
If I were you I’d have complained to the OPC about the oil and use that in accusatory way to question whether they’d done the other work and let them prove that they had. I certainly wouldn’t be substituting work that I’d already paid for.
As regards the brake feel, they felt fine before I took the car in, no different afterwards. I'm just not confident they have done a professional job on the brakes, just on me!
andygo said:
..............but I replaced my brake fluid about 18 months ago when I fitted the new rear calipers that the original OPC sent me.
They sent me the calipers as no slots were available over the Christmas period and the January for them to replace so I did it myself.
How is that supposed to work with the warranty, allowing customers to fit calipers on a car themselves surely isn't in keeping with the warranty rules?They sent me the calipers as no slots were available over the Christmas period and the January for them to replace so I did it myself.
What about the plugs, you were concerned about if they had been changed, were they?
981Boxess said:
How is that supposed to work with the warranty, allowing customers to fit calipers on a car themselves surely isn't in keeping with the warranty rules?
What about the plugs, you were concerned about if they had been changed, were they?
I was happy to fit the calipers myself, at least I knew they were done properly and bled well, pistons retracted into the calipers etc, plus I didnt have to wait several weeks for the privilege.What about the plugs, you were concerned about if they had been changed, were they?
Ref the plugs, I could see shiny scuff marks on the bolts and finger smudges where the coil packs had been held to unplug them so I assumed they had been done,
Edited by andygo on Monday 13th May 19:42
DJMC said:
981Boxess said:
How is that supposed to work with the warranty, allowing customers to fit calipers on a car themselves surely isn't in keeping with the warranty rules?
Perhaps Mat Armstrong is fine rebuilding Marcus Rashford's RR Wraith and keeping it in warranty after all?andygo said:
Ref the plugs, I could see shiny scuff marks on the bolts and finger smudges where the coil packs had been held to unplug them so I assumed they had been done
Charging for jobs not done would have been a red card, a yellow it is then.No garage is perfect indy or OPC, at least it is all sorted now.
981Boxess said:
Charging for jobs not done would have been a red card, a yellow it is then.
No garage is perfect indy or OPC, at least it is all sorted now.
Having your car serviced and not sure it's been done properley shouldn't even be up for discusssion rally. Garages can be their own worst enemy and unfortunately their reputation sometimes goes before them..No garage is perfect indy or OPC, at least it is all sorted now.
andygo said:
981Boxess said:
Charging for jobs not done would have been a red card, a yellow it is then.
No garage is perfect indy or OPC, at least it is all sorted now.
Having your car serviced and not sure it's been done properley shouldn't even be up for discusssion rally. Garages can be their own worst enemy and unfortunately their reputation sometimes goes before them..No garage is perfect indy or OPC, at least it is all sorted now.
As someone who has spent decades working in one of those areas let me assure you that as many problems stem from dealing with the general public as getting it wrong at the coal face.
No questions about cars or food please
981Boxess said:
andygo said:
981Boxess said:
Charging for jobs not done would have been a red card, a yellow it is then.
No garage is perfect indy or OPC, at least it is all sorted now.
Having your car serviced and not sure it's been done properley shouldn't even be up for discusssion rally. Garages can be their own worst enemy and unfortunately their reputation sometimes goes before them..No garage is perfect indy or OPC, at least it is all sorted now.
As someone who has spent decades working in one of those areas let me assure you that as many problems stem from dealing with the general public as getting it wrong at the coal face.
No questions about cars or food please
It is literally your job to fix their problems.
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