EVs... no one wants them!

Well, quite. Entirely predicatable.

Of course, councils specialize in wasting cash, so carried on with the scheme anyway. And people on this thread ae proposing councils as some kind of solution!

This is exactly what we are up against. Charging a car in the street is not a technology problem. Its a people and human behaviour problem. Thats why its so difficult.

What sort of a clown comes on a car website to slag cars off braindead muppetery of the highest order.
I'm with JC on this one (Clarkson not Christ) and he says the F Type is the best looking car ever made.
I've owned a Cerbera which was nearly as quick as the F Type and a 2017 Mustang that was that popular it took me 7 years to find something even better looking.
With a top end of 180mph and 0 to 60 in 4.5 from the supercharged V8 screamer why would I buy a fridge on wheels which is what electric cars are. White goods the betamax of the car world. A fad to be replaced by Hydrogen in the end

On-street parking isn't as simple as you think it is. Everyone wants to park outside their home regardless if they have one or multiple cars. I've seen it first hand where even those who have this issue and have one car per household, there's still not enough on-street parking. Cars are having to be parked on the next street.

When it comes to on-street parking, you'll find that people are not reasonable or rational about this at all. Even now, where there isn't really a need to be parked outside their house as they are not charging their cars. This isn't going to change in the future, if anything it's going to be far worse. Especially when cars are parked just that 2 meters further down, making all the other cars further down, meaning the cable won't reach. Or if someone goes from say a small hatchback to a big long Skoda Superb. Stupid things like that have a knock on effect.

Just like now, when I go to the in-laws if I want to be parked on their street, then I take a risk because there is no off-street parking at all. So I take the partners tiny Kia because I know that if there is a space, it's usually just big enough for that car. If I take mine then every time I go to the in-laws I have to park 2 streets away because that's where there is space. It's a complete pain.


What it comes down to is that people are selfish and really do not give a hoot.


I would like to add, that even digging up the path just to lay this cable is going to cost at least £500. That's before even paying to have the thing installed.

Must say it's staggering that you're having to explain the realities of on street parking to someone.

Don't get the obsession with on street charging at home. Do people currently have oil refineries at home and petrol pumps in their front garden? Obviously not.

Yes, charging at home is handy, especially for higher mileages and more rural locations, but it's not essential.

Spurious argument as petrol/diesel can add 100's of miles of range in < 5 minutes, filling stations are everywhere and you'll rarely find one broken or blocked for an extended period.

5 year EV owner here that covers 10k miles per year of mostly short trips. if for some reason I couldn't home charge going forward then I'd be back in ICE in a heartbeat as would reverse two of the primary benefits (convenience, running costs) and turn them into drawbacks. I'd be gutted as think they're a great option for the kind of trips we do and prefer the driving experience.

Of course, this is also affected by where I live having only 1 choice of 100kW+ rapid charger within a 20 mile radius, and not much liking the idea spending an hour or more a week sat in a McDonalds car park..

Stop it with your sensible comments. No room for that here.

But your point of spending time, at macdonalds car park or similar for some time, be it an hour a week or 5 surrisingly has no appeal. Those proposing it as a solution, are of course those who wont need to do it.

And as EV numbers grow, you will have a charging "rush hour", which either means more time waiting or going out to charge later in the evening. (and probably losing your parking space at home/near home to)

The key here, as i said, are most of those saying its a solution are those with the luxury of a driveway.

I think the argument is that all of us spend a regular predictable amount of time at various establishments.

Whether that’s an hour at a supermarket, in which case a 50kW rate of charge will be sufficient, or 20 minutes at a convenience store, for which you might want a 250kW rate, there’s enough ‘dead’ time already to meet most people’s charging needs.

All that is now needed is a way of reducing the cost by, for example, integrating your public charging with your home electricity tarrif assuming that natural competition between public providers is not fierce enough.

It may never be as cheap as the rates available to wealthier folk with off street parking and home charging (and solar panels on the roof of their gazebo etc…) but as long as it’s at least comparable or a bit cheaper than petrol then that’s possibly enough.

Who complains that the rich are unfairly advantaged in not having to pay for a residents on street parking permit?

This seems far more attractive than draping cables across pavements and fighting for a parking space outside your house surely.