EVs... no one wants them!

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. You buy the appropriate car for your circumstances. Using the Leaf 24 as an example is about as relevant as suggesting a Smart Car.

Sounds like it’s not only that generation who lacks resilience.

And don’t make assumptions about which generation I’m from.

Half of all new cars are bought by 55s and over, almost a quarter by the 65s and over. The cars that are hitting the secondhand car market in the next decade or two will be highly influenced by this age group and will impact supply and price. So they do have a part to play and ignoring them as not going to impacted would be foolish for any EV strategy, whether ICE continue to exist in their lifetime or not.

Lots of fingers in the ears, la la la, not listening when it comes to the social issues around electrification, demonisation of ICE, availability of second hand cars and charging.

I did have a laugh at the neat little rubber strips you can install to charge your car. Lovely bit of pavement, perfectly flat, nice and dry and clean. Nice sunny day. Most pavements people will be familiar with, even in decent areas, are in a shocking state with uneven slabs and bodged tarmac and I can just picture those little rubber strips when they're a few months old and filling up with the typical pavement mix of mud, dog piss and other assorted muck. I can really see the attraction of getting home on a wet cold night and laying your twee cable in that minging slot and likewise extracting it in the morning. Certainly puts the gross inconvenience of diesel gloves into perspective. This is before we get to the absolutely epic parking disputes that will ensue or the council 'licence fee' you'll be paying to put the thing in.

This describes where millions who currently have ICE cars live. On street charging for these people cannot be done. Let them eat cake won't cut it. At night round here the public on street charging spots are occupied overnight by ICE vehicles who have lost their normal spaces. No one polices it and quite right to. I'd like some anti social behaviour policed before resources are used to police overnight parking regulations. The council persists in installing facilities and taking a disproportionate amount of space for a minority of expensive cars which they justify under their ambition of making the town net zero which no one can recall finding on an election manifesto. Of course, there's denial at the moment and record breaking progress on filling potholes. Surely nothing to do with the imminent local elections.

I'm all right Jack. I have a drive and garages with power. An EV would be just fine for me and millions like me. I'm concerned about everyone else. It is not about poor people wanting luxuries they have never been able to have, and shouldn't expect to have. It's about removing a basic level of convenience with no way of replacing it. Car less communities and improved public transport. Do me a favour. If we're going car less, why put in charging points? As for public transport - it's already a joke and deteriorating, not improving.

That's all good and well trying to make things how they were before but this isn't the 60s no more. People don't just work around the corner from home or even in the same city.

Lots of people commute from one city to another which can mean in some cases a 2 bus journey that takes over an hour or 20 minutes by car.

So trying to force people to use public transport doesn't really work.

And that is something that will need to change if we are all to live in a more sustainable way.

The idea that large numbers of people should drive in individual vehicles for several hours a day just to get to and from work is a a relatively new phenomenon, and not something to try to preserve.

Imagine the positive effects on quality of life if people weren’t forced to do this?

It doesn't work though. Local companies are few and far between, jobs for people just aren't there. Back then there were plenty of manufacturers but now everything is make outside of the UK. Look at Tata for example. So you're asking for a utopia to which no longer exists in this century.

As for car sharing, again this doesn't really work. We do it at my work and there's only a handful if that of people that do it. People have things going on in their life that makes it near impossible. Such things as picking up kids, hobbies after work or even second jobs.

Yes it would be great for what you're asking for but since the 70s and 80s, this all changed.

Even where I live, there use to be loads of local jobs but since a certain Prime Minister closed a lot of it down, the locals all had to find jobs further away.

But surely that is worth trying to reverse, it would probably have just as much of a beneficial environmental effect as encouraging take up of EVs?

And just to clarify, I’m not talking about restricting freedom to travel, quite the reverse freeing people from the tyranny of having to travel just to work

Do you car share? Genuinely interested

Yes it's worth trying but how can you create jobs that just aren't there? You can't just force big companies to buy land or develop a site that's not going to be beneficial

How can you make public transport better when it's all privately owner? Those companies have had decades to improve it, yet still haven't.