3yo Volvo V60 - Talk to me?
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We are in the market for a new car for my partner, and she has her eyes set on a V60 Mk2.
Obviously only 3-4 years of these out yet, so not a huge choice, and or budget is really low 20's max rather than 25k+.
Shopping list
-Got to be an automatic due to messy and long commute
-Ideally heated seats (does that mean momentum plus?)
-Ideally white in colour, maybe black? (or at very least not gold)
-Probably the D3 or D4 diesel unless someone can give a good reason to go for the T4 with 25% £500pa worse fuel costs.
Located in the Northwest (Merseyside) but within reason willing to travel, Bristol, Birmingham, Leeds, N Wales, if not Scotland/Kent!
Any other thoughts or suggestions on places to look for a suitable car?
Obviously only 3-4 years of these out yet, so not a huge choice, and or budget is really low 20's max rather than 25k+.
Shopping list
-Got to be an automatic due to messy and long commute
-Ideally heated seats (does that mean momentum plus?)
-Ideally white in colour, maybe black? (or at very least not gold)
-Probably the D3 or D4 diesel unless someone can give a good reason to go for the T4 with 25% £500pa worse fuel costs.
Located in the Northwest (Merseyside) but within reason willing to travel, Bristol, Birmingham, Leeds, N Wales, if not Scotland/Kent!
Any other thoughts or suggestions on places to look for a suitable car?
Lots of interesting comments, and thanks for the links to potential cars.
If the R-design is just a trim level, not a suspension change, that's a bonus especially as half the white ones currently appear to be R-Design. Most are on the larger wheels but I guess we could 'swap' to some 18s if available on the basis someone will want to swap the other way!
Point taken about white showing dirt, but they black shows swirl marks and grey is dull...
I'm not a huge fan of the gearbox or infotainment system, the Gen4 Octavia appears to do both better, which especially given the portrait screen only allows half screen Carplay/Androidauto. However they are great looking cars, and as it will be my wife's car predominately she gets to choose!
If the R-design is just a trim level, not a suspension change, that's a bonus especially as half the white ones currently appear to be R-Design. Most are on the larger wheels but I guess we could 'swap' to some 18s if available on the basis someone will want to swap the other way!
Point taken about white showing dirt, but they black shows swirl marks and grey is dull...
I'm not a huge fan of the gearbox or infotainment system, the Gen4 Octavia appears to do both better, which especially given the portrait screen only allows half screen Carplay/Androidauto. However they are great looking cars, and as it will be my wife's car predominately she gets to choose!
demic said:
You should be able to get a Momentum with heated seats as it was a cost option (standard on the Pro).
demic said:
If it’s going to be used for a commute then it would be worth seeking out one with the Intellisafe Pro pack (Adaptive cruise and Pilot Assist). It really does take the sting out of long, boring journeys.
Yes, adaptive cruise would be a another bonus. Presumably that's also not tied to any given spec level. And also not standard?Is there anyway to know if the listing doesn't detail?
Gin and Ultrasonic said:
I believe the economy in the D4 is almost identical to the D3 in the real world, but the performance is much better..
Yes. The 190bhp D4 is very much considered preferable in my eyes, but the equally the 150bhp D3 is far from under powered. White R-Design in Cannock
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311123...
Does heated steering wheel mean 'winterpack' and hence heated seats?
Or where heated seats standard on the R-Design?
Momentum
Momentum plus/pro
R-Design
Inscription
Inscription Pro
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311123...
Does heated steering wheel mean 'winterpack' and hence heated seats?
Or where heated seats standard on the R-Design?
Momentum
Momentum plus/pro
R-Design
Inscription
Inscription Pro
dhutch said:
demic said:
If it’s going to be used for a commute then it would be worth seeking out one with the Intellisafe Pro pack (Adaptive cruise and Pilot Assist). It really does take the sting out of long, boring journeys.
Yes, adaptive cruise would be a another bonus. Presumably that's also not tied to any given spec level. And also not standard?Is there anyway to know if the listing doesn't detail?
Presumably this is separate from collision detection?
demic said:
I’ve tried looking but I can’t see an answer for sure. They have the same steering wheel controls with the adaptive cruise buttons and there’s no giveaway radar sensor at the front. With the intellisafe pack you got BLIS so if you can see a picture of the wing mirror it’ll have the warning system lines on the outer edge of the glass. On the touchscreen menu they’ll be an icon for the adaptive cruise to turn it off. Other than that I’m struggling.
Re heated seats there is a seat icon on the bottom left/right of the touch screen if the car has them
I have the 2019 MY price list with specifications if you’d like me to email to you?
Ok, that's great information. Re heated seats there is a seat icon on the bottom left/right of the touch screen if the car has them
I have the 2019 MY price list with specifications if you’d like me to email to you?
I was chatting to a Volvo salesman this morning and he was saying the car they had in stock has BLIS, but wasn't listed as having Adaptive cruise control. So he would need to check that! Ditto heated seats.
This after he has firmly assured me that if a car had adaptive cruise control it would me listed in the advert!
He also said it was an option on all V60s, regardless of spec, and therefore it reasonably rare. Unlike the V90 where is was fitted as standard. All of them have normal cruise control as standard.
He also said the smartphone integration wasn't standard, but that they can add it for £300. So obviously just a software tweek. They can't retrospectivly add adaptive cruise control or heated seats.
demic said:
Try looking for cars whose reg starts with a “K” as these are often ex-Volvo cars and well specified.
As in, press car? Staff car? Test car?https://www.sjspecialistcars.co.uk/used-volvo-v60-...
This one looks promising. Reserved to view tomorrow/Saturday.
Looked good, put the deposit down, wife if going to see it tomorrow.
It needs to be fully prep'ed yet, so there are a few little niggly things like one of the boot struts making a lot of grumbling noises, rubber door seal someone has trodden on and torn, but all due to be fixed all this coming week.
Being black, it also very much wants a machine polish to get four years worth of swirl marks out. But again, I'm told that will be done early next week, and in a way it's nice to see the paint as it came in, which is probably more like what it will look like most of its life if truth be told!
Also got some blotches around the filler, which is a bit strange. Don't know it's that's petrol that's stripped off a previous wax or something? Bit off. I'm told it will buff out...
It needs to be fully prep'ed yet, so there are a few little niggly things like one of the boot struts making a lot of grumbling noises, rubber door seal someone has trodden on and torn, but all due to be fixed all this coming week.
Being black, it also very much wants a machine polish to get four years worth of swirl marks out. But again, I'm told that will be done early next week, and in a way it's nice to see the paint as it came in, which is probably more like what it will look like most of its life if truth be told!
Also got some blotches around the filler, which is a bit strange. Don't know it's that's petrol that's stripped off a previous wax or something? Bit off. I'm told it will buff out...
Inscription - Wood effect trim, leather seats sliver roof rails, 18" wheels. Pro adds bendy headlights, handsfree boot, vented seats 19" wheels.
Momentum - Black roof rails, 17" wheels , cloth seats. Pro adds bendy headlights and leather seats, memory seat positions. 18" wheels.
R-Design - Lowered Chassis and buckey seats... often the larger wheels.
Or something like that, plus is a bit like pro but difference? Individual cars appear to able to deviate quite a lot until they really clamped down on that and then dropped almost all of the range including anything non-hybrid, and then the whole V and S range into the UK!
Lower spec get matt plastic trim inside on the steering wheel and centre console, greater models get gloss interior plastic which looks less cheap and somehow feels less plasticky too. We also didnt see many cars on 17" wheels at all.
While standard on the V90 is am told, on the V60 the adaptive cruse control was optional on all trim levels and not a popular one. You can also get BLIS without acc. The ACC is however amazing and I am glad we hunted out a car with that spec. See also memory seats, which can be programmed to pre-adjust based on which key is used.
We avoided the R-design because we wanted something comfortable not lower and stiffer, its not that low or stiff, but it isn't as soft and the mrs' commute has a lot of pot holes!
Just been on a weekend to Edinburgh and its amazing how as soon as you get past the border there is a huge spike in the number of V60 and V90's compared to here in the Northwest where its all SUVs everywhere and they are a pretty rare sight.
Momentum - Black roof rails, 17" wheels , cloth seats. Pro adds bendy headlights and leather seats, memory seat positions. 18" wheels.
R-Design - Lowered Chassis and buckey seats... often the larger wheels.
Or something like that, plus is a bit like pro but difference? Individual cars appear to able to deviate quite a lot until they really clamped down on that and then dropped almost all of the range including anything non-hybrid, and then the whole V and S range into the UK!
Lower spec get matt plastic trim inside on the steering wheel and centre console, greater models get gloss interior plastic which looks less cheap and somehow feels less plasticky too. We also didnt see many cars on 17" wheels at all.
While standard on the V90 is am told, on the V60 the adaptive cruse control was optional on all trim levels and not a popular one. You can also get BLIS without acc. The ACC is however amazing and I am glad we hunted out a car with that spec. See also memory seats, which can be programmed to pre-adjust based on which key is used.
We avoided the R-design because we wanted something comfortable not lower and stiffer, its not that low or stiff, but it isn't as soft and the mrs' commute has a lot of pot holes!
Just been on a weekend to Edinburgh and its amazing how as soon as you get past the border there is a huge spike in the number of V60 and V90's compared to here in the Northwest where its all SUVs everywhere and they are a pretty rare sight.
Ilovejapcrap said:
Thznkyou all for the information. I assumed the r design was just looks and not actually a change to suspension, worth knowing.
It is I believe technically possible to have an R-Design without the 'lowered sports chassis' but I didnt see one in all our looking.We have a T4 Momentum plus and are very happy with it.
Did test drive a few D4 for the mpg, its not obviously very different from the drivers seat, in the end we found a nice car with the adaptive cc and bagged it in petrol guise. Did a good long run at the weekend up to Scotland and back and it returned 43mpg on the run up and 41mph over the whole 600 mile weekend.
macron said:
I see you posted those cool pics in the fast estate thread, is it fast then?
I would say so, yes. Not a mad mans rocket ship, but it is fast.Its no slouch that's for sure, on paper the 0-60 for the 187bhp T4 is 7sec and the feels about right, the auto box is not sporty but it balances holding a gear and kicking down fairly well in my book, and if you push the right foot to the floor it certainly makes the right noises and does the right thing. It also has good long legs and seems to slide through the air nicely, so the 60-80 performance is also very manageable.
My daily (E46 330ci with book 0-60 6.3) is currently off the road for welding so I have been in the wife's 90hp 1.6tdi Fiesta a couple of months which is 11.5 book and a huge amount less when it goes into limp mode and struggles to get past 65! So the calibration on my internal accelerometers might have drifted a bit, but now we have had the car five months and have settled into it its a very nice car for a wide range of driving.
macron said:
Cool! How much does it drink?
I see on another thread someone with a T5 S60 (which I assume is faster) says 28-33mpg. Do you better that?
This thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
See this thread.I see on another thread someone with a T5 S60 (which I assume is faster) says 28-33mpg. Do you better that?
This thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Book figures for the V60 (from parkers) are as follows:
D4. 46.3 - 52.3
T4. 34.4 - 38.7
T5. 34.0 - 38.7
Of cause, fuel consumption is well linked to the weight of your feet!
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