Buying a used Taycan

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312074...

That's quite a chunk off. Prob VAT tbf but it's not sold and wonder what a dealer would offer ...

I visited the dealer today. Most had a sticker on with a GFV of circa £45k after 3 yrs and 5 ka per annum. So they were all around £1500 pcm with £25k deposit. That’s chunky costing.

You’d be mental to spend c50% more for the facelift. The existing car is already epic and for many users it offers little to benefit their ownership proposition. I.e. performance and range is already more than sufficient for many. They’ll need to be deals in the table very quickly for these new cars to shift. Any see many existing owners trading in, so who’s going to buy them?

Not as big as a Cayenne but you should be fine.

I'm 6'4" and with a slight bit of compromise in driving position can sit behind myself.

- I wouldn't want to do this for a long journey
- an ST/CT is key IMO for extra headroom
- the biggest issue is ingress/egress due to limited foot space under the driver's seat. Once in, it was comfy.

The seat backs are pretty big slabs, which could make some feel claustrophobic if the driver's seat is set back. A pano roof helps here IMO.

Best bet would be to ask a dealer for an extended test. I had a brief initial test in one, then an extended test where I took the car for a full day. Loaded the family up and drove typical roads to ensure it worked.

There wont be deals on the table for the Gen2. As said in my original post there are many people where "money is no object". They have good relationships with OPCs since they buy and return very frequently. For them an expensive Porsche isn't aspirational, its a right.

Porsche and others just hike the prices up each time there is a generation change. Then at their own prerogative they might take off a slight amount to make the potential owner feel that they have negotiated a deal.

This green CT being sold privately. £50 short of six figures. I presume specced to the nth degree but has to go since its not got all the new fancy things. If he cant shift it then he will have hard words with the OPC whilst placing an order for a Gen2.

Given what seems to be huge improvement in range and charging time I personally wouldn’t go near one right now. There are still a lot of new cars around, plenty of dealers have double digits new inventory and plenty of dealers with 20 plus used cars.

I’d wait a few months unless you need a car right now. I can see the Taycan being £10k cheaper on the used market by summer…maybe more.

There'll be no deals on mk2 cars yet, so you're going to be looking at a big uplift in spend for one.

Charge time is neither here nor there. The mk1 is already plenty fast enough and faster than most things out there. Go for a pee, grab a snack and it'll be at 80%+ from 10% at a fast DC charger. At home, rates aren't limited by the car.

Range is the one, but with fast charging available it's also not an issue if you can get your head around your actual typical mileage. Many people cannot, it seems.

Porsche's own presentation slides for the new car showed off a long journey from Stuttgart to Barcelona. Net gain on the mk2, with it's range and charging speed? 39mins. Across 3 countries over 750 miles or so.

Is that worth £50k?

Porsche managed to mess right up with stock levels over the last year or so. I doubt deliveries of the mk2 will start in earnest until October time, so they have 8mths to get the inventory down. I suspect that's the window for solid bargaining on the mk1. Beyond that it will depend on how Porsche manage stock levels with the mk2. IF they get a handle on them, prices will firm up.

Time will tell indeed. Porsche can slow production down for a while but not for that long because of the need manufacturers have to sell EV’s to meet EU regs.

The best deals are always December and they are never as good in January because OPC’s don’t have Q4 and annual budgets to hit. End of March will be the next time they are really motivated to sell cars.

Does it?

Of the 34% claimed improvements in range in the mk2:

- over 40% is from increase battery capacity. So there's no run cost benefit there
- around 30% of it is down to wheels and tyres. Which can be applied readily to a mk1 (I purposefully chose inefficient wheels and tyres on mine because I'm a rascal)
- another 12% looks to be software. Whether this gets made available to mk1s who knows

It costs me £6.30 to juice up my mk1. Even if the mk2 was a perpetual motion machine, it would take quite a while to make back the £50k upgrade cost

(Granted it costs nearer £70 to juice up on the move...but I don't do that, that often).