Ineos Grenadier customer cars arrive at dealers

I believe the cars are being held until around the 28th Feb for collection, although customers have been allowed to view their cars. Which are now arriving at Swiss dealers.

There is also a big media event happening in N Scotland, but restrictions apply until the 8th Feb, so unlikely to see anything published before then.



Simply loving that blue colour

Walk around of a customer vehicle at a dealership.




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I guess of note, there were some very vocal PH users that seem to have nothing but hatred and contempt for this vehicle, swearing blind it would never see the light of day and that they were infallibly correct on this (you know who you are, or I could link thread/post user names )

I wonder, are any of you prepared to eat humble pie and say you were wrong?

Kind of a mad comment. The Land Cruiser only comes with a low powered slow diesel engine and is way behind in almost every area. Plus it's fugly. Its not as if we get the 70 Series here in the UK.

Depreciation is only 1 part of buying. Looking at your car history, it clearly hasn't been your primary concern either, so why post about it like this? It's not as if you have a crystal ball and predict the future either.

Well no, as just established you can't get new ones, so it wouldn't be. Unless you mean the new Defender, but that isn't remotely similar.

If you mean a Tdi/Td5 vs the last of the line Puma's. Then still a no really. Lots of changes happened over the years.


Sorry, but where have you been living? No meaning it in a nasty way, but there are simply loads of live axle vehicles available, many vastly more expensive.

Newsflash, the world is bigger than the UK market and where you live.

Have you never heard of a Land Cruiser 70 Series?

How about a Jeep Wrangler? The top model of these is £100k!!!

Ford Bronco maybe?

G-Wagen?

Come on man, you must have heard of an F150 or a Dodge Ram?

Or is it still a no?

Maybe you'd like to use Google and check some prices out.

Honestly, there are loads of proper live axle off road worth vehicles on sale covering prices from £20k through to £140k+


You also seem to be a little off on the price of the Ineos, by £15,000 on the starting price.



Now it is a lot of money (too much for my bank account sadly ), but its right on the ballpark of anything comparable.

Reliability, yes always something to consider to a greater or lesser degree. But in reality it is the same for every make/model, the Grenadier isn't anything different here. And lets face it, Land Rover and Jeep products are vastly popular (the latter in the USA and non EU markets). Yet the usually rank low in things like the JD Power surveys. Doesn't seem to stop people buying the products though.



The only thing I would say, the Grenadier does appear is massively over engineered. They have also had a very extensive and publicised development period being very open with what they have done/doing. Unless they are very unlucky I'd suspect reliability will be very good.