Ferrari 458 Italia oversupply?
Ferrari 458 Italia oversupply?
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red_duke

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817 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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A superficial look at the classifieds shows there are 70 x 458 coupes currently available after just 3 years of production. Only 57 x F430 coupes currently available after a longer 5 year production run.

Are people simply hanging on to their 430s or is there an oversupply of the 458 I wonder?

Edited by red_duke on Wednesday 3rd April 13:10

UH-Matt

2,173 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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I think 430's tend to sell quicker as they are half the price, so less tend to hang around.

A lot of 458's have been on the market for ages.. Also quite a few examples of people who had the coupe and are now chopping in for Spiders...

CRA1G

7,201 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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red_duke said:
A superficial look at the classifieds shows there are 70 x 458 coupes currently available after just 3 years of production. Only 57 x F430 coupes currently available after a longer 5 year production run.

Are people simply hanging on to their 430s or is there an oversupply of the 458 I wonder?

Edited by red_duke on Wednesday 3rd April 13:10
I know someone who had a 1st of march 13 plate Spider that he had ordered quite a while ago to speculate and make some money on and got a surprise.....! Ended up just getting his money back with delivery miles on it.....!

ferdi p

1,535 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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UH-Matt said:
I think 430's tend to sell quicker as they are half the price, so less tend to hang around.

A lot of 458's have been on the market for ages.. Also quite a few examples of people who had the coupe and are now chopping in for Spiders...
Had your 458 test drive yet???

kbf1981

2,345 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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UH-Matt said:
I think 430's tend to sell quicker as they are half the price, so less tend to hang around.

A lot of 458's have been on the market for ages.. Also quite a few examples of people who had the coupe and are now chopping in for Spiders...
I know one that's been available for ages at around £165 but the spec is very low.

IainF

152 posts

281 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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There also seem to be a large number of very low mileage 2012 cars at the dealers. Are these likely to be private vehicles on a sale or return basis, maybe from people who bought speculatively? Or cars taken in by the dealers as customers switch to something newer?

sone

4,612 posts

264 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Quite a few left hookers as well. Dealers importing trying make a quick buck maybe. I still fancy a 458 having driven a few recently I think they are fantastic. Problem is do I want to drop my Scud in the process. At this rate it could be a straight swap(-;.

carpov

190 posts

187 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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kbf1981 said:
I know one that's been available for ages at around £165 but the spec is very low.
What constitutes a low spec? I think the must haves are carbon steering wheel, ipod connector and sat nav?
Oh - and the servicing plan.

red_duke

Original Poster:

817 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Perhaps there are even more than 70 pre-owned 458s available if dealers are prevented by Ferrari from advertising more than a couple?

Anyone know how old a model needs to be before it escapes this advertising restriction?


roygarth

2,674 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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sone said:
At this rate it could be a straight swap(-;.
Thats a given..just a question of when!?

PHOENIXUK

2,200 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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roygarth said:
sone said:
At this rate it could be a straight swap(-;.
Thats a given..just a question of when!?
Yeh but lifes to short and a 458 is so much better than a Scud. IMHO of course.

Candellara

1,890 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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red_duke said:
A superficial look at the classifieds shows there are 70 x 458 coupes currently available after just 3 years of production. Only 57 x F430 coupes currently available after a longer 5 year production run.

Are people simply hanging on to their 430s or is there an oversupply of the 458 I wonder?

Edited by red_duke on Wednesday 3rd April 13:10
Apparently, 458's are very much more difficult cars to deal with in terms of mileage correction :-)

kbf1981

2,345 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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carpov said:
kbf1981 said:
I know one that's been available for ages at around £165 but the spec is very low.
What constitutes a low spec? I think the must haves are carbon steering wheel, ipod connector and sat nav?
Oh - and the servicing plan.
This one from memory... - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

This is cheap on another note - anyone know if there's a story?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

70proof

6,155 posts

181 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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red_duke said:
A superficial look at the classifieds shows there are 70 x 458 coupes currently available after just 3 years of production. Only 57 x F430 coupes currently available after a longer 5 year production run.

Are people simply hanging on to their 430s or is there an oversupply of the 458 I wonder?
http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ferrari

does this help?

roygarth

2,674 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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PHOENIXUK said:
roygarth said:
sone said:
At this rate it could be a straight swap(-;.
Thats a given..just a question of when!?
Yeh but lifes to short and a 458 is so much better than a Scud. IMHO of course.
I suppose it depends on how much of a depreciation hit one is prepared/able to take...

ferdi p

1,535 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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kbf1981 said:
This one from memory... - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

This is cheap on another note - anyone know if there's a story?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
LHD

PHOENIXUK

2,200 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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roygarth said:
PHOENIXUK said:
roygarth said:
sone said:
At this rate it could be a straight swap(-;.
Thats a given..just a question of when!?
Yeh but lifes to short and a 458 is so much better than a Scud. IMHO of course.
I suppose it depends on how much of a depreciation hit one is prepared/able to take...
No not really, life really is to short and the 458 really is a lot better than a Scud.IMHO

UH-Matt

2,173 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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kbf1981 said:
carpov said:
kbf1981 said:
I know one that's been available for ages at around £165 but the spec is very low.
What constitutes a low spec? I think the must haves are carbon steering wheel, ipod connector and sat nav?
Oh - and the servicing plan.
This one from memory... - http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

This is cheap on another note - anyone know if there's a story?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
Plenty in the £160k region with a good spec though.

Hence one at that money without a great spec not selling.

For me the sports seats are 100% essential, won't look at a car without them.

gunner

754 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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new coupes still arriving at dealerships all the time...have a peek round the back!I also see that the Spyder now has its own section in the ph classifieds...they are absolutely wonderful cars,and who knows when the weather improves,but for now there would seem to be too many available for them not to take another leg down.Fantastic car and more power to anybody who manages to pick one up at a good price.Also,I believe that after a year or so they came with 7 years free servicing so great on running costs too.Adored mine when I had it.Agree it's spec sensitive,definitely a few must haves for me...

bad company

21,724 posts

292 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Difficult to make a case for the coupe v hard top convertible imo.