Slave?
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Djwilk

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1,693 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Hi guys,
As always, when I post there is something on...

I'm in Poland at the mo... And as I was driving here I lost my clutch pedal. Went in at some point and lost feel for good at 120mph in Germany... Managed another 300miles using a racing gear change method.

Now the fluid has poured down from the bellhousing, although had not eacaped fully from the reservoir.

Obvioudly no clutch at all, what do you reckon slave cylinder or sth else?

gsd2000

11,515 posts

209 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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if the bell housing is wet more than likely slave cylinder

stevieturbo

18,025 posts

273 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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If there is brake/clutch fluid coming from inside the bellhousing, the only place it can come from is the slave. And of course this in turn must have come from the reservoir, so it would be impossible for this to be full if that is the case.

Given it seemed to get worse over time, you may be very lucky in that refilling and bleeding might give you some sort of workable clutch to get you closer to home. But it's a remote chance.

Does sound like a new slave cylinder is required, which means gearbox out.

Behold81

2,931 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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While its out fit a remote bleed.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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Certainly sounds line the slave has failed, be careful though a member on here had to replace the gearbox bell housing after a total slave failure

Behold81

2,931 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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neiljohnson said:
Certainly sounds line the slave has failed, be careful though a member on here had to replace the gearbox bell housing after a total slave failure
Curious why a slave cylinder failure killed a bell housing.

Although while in there you might want to do the clutch. 1 it might be contaminated by fluid. 2 if its not new its gonna go some point and better to only strip out the box once.

goldvxr8

2,949 posts

192 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Yes. To all of Them
I keep a spear slave now
from when I had a ls7 fitted just incas one day

KMud

2,924 posts

182 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Get a f-body Camaro slave if you can - fair saving and mine got through without import tax. Will need to swap over the connector though. Struggling to find the guide on that, but it's just a knock out a pin job IIRC.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Behold81 said:
Curious why a slave cylinder failure killed a bell housing.

Although while in there you might want to do the clutch. 1 it might be contaminated by fluid. 2 if its not new its gonna go some point and better to only strip out the box once.
Slave cylinder & release bearing is one piece it's rare but the brake fluid washes out the bearing grease the bearings run dry seize & in that case explode.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Thanks for the replies guys,

Like you all said, it seems slave cylinder to me. I struggle to think how such s bad design could enter mass production (given the circumstances why they all go).

As for getting back home, I guess I could ride it clutchless, but prefer for it to be fixed first. Plus, it might give me a couple of extra days of hols

Btw, didn't make it to the car show at all. Shame that, but hey that's life.

Considered selling, but then what would I get instead...nothing that would excite me apart from E3 which I can't afford...

Ps. A bit drunk in Krakow right now so forgive me if I sound a bit slow and sulky

Ps2. Great to have you guys

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Djwilk said:
Thanks for the replies guys,

Like you all said, it seems slave cylinder to me. I struggle to think how such s bad design could enter mass production (given the circumstances why they all go).

smile
The reason they are done this way is to get lighter pedals with heavy duty clutches + it is the only way to get completely even pressure on the release bearing.

Behold81

2,931 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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It's not a bad design. But if it goes its a pain. If box is out. You might as well do the lot.

Djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Hi,
Got the LS7 already so really only contaminated parts if needs be.

Would go for remote clutch bleed but MF dont have it on the shelf and the car is VOR in Poland.

Djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

195 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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So,
The verdict is there now... It was a slave cylinder that has failed... Surprise, NOT!

It virtually melted. Decided to go for a new clutch assy as well since my current LS7 has had some spirited life in the fast (to include myself) Went for a rear gearbox seal as well since mine is leaking. Oh, and am gonna get the gearbox oil changed, why not right? As I'm already spending nearly £800!!! On parts alone I might as well kick myself in the balls twice and have it sorted for a while now.

Now, I learnt that there is sweating from underneath the heads, very minor but it's there. Should I be concerned or leave it till it causes trouble?

Thanks for your help and support thus far

Ps. Bg ta to MF bad boys for getting the parcel organised and shipping them to Poland tomorrow for me. Lads I owe you!

stevieturbo

18,025 posts

273 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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It melted ? post pics

ARAF

20,759 posts

249 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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"MF bad boys"

rofl

gsd2000

11,515 posts

209 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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heads sweating? So bad head gaskets?

Djwilk

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1,693 posts

195 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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gsd2000 said:
heads sweating? So bad head gaskets?


So it seems, but it's only that there is some oil sweat visible where they meet the block.



Slave pic below:

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/89

P7VXR

314 posts

253 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Bart sorry to hear you are V.O.R. In Poland, I must stop doing the wot in second gear past your house if you are not there. Hope you get it all back together soon.

Paul