ZF Gearbox Oil Change at BMW dealer
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d_a_n1979 said:
Thats What She Said said:
There is one school of thought (BMW) that says if it's working fine, leave it alone.
ZF on the other hand (who actually make the gearboxes) say they should be serviced every 80k or so.
I'd go with the manufacturers opinion rather than the retailers, and find a good indy.
^^^ZF on the other hand (who actually make the gearboxes) say they should be serviced every 80k or so.
I'd go with the manufacturers opinion rather than the retailers, and find a good indy.
ZF recommend 60-80k miles max! Says a lot really...
mmm-five said:
You could also use ZF's partner finder to find a ZF-approved service shop.
https://aftermarket.zf.com/en/aftermarket-portal/s...
Good shout, cheershttps://aftermarket.zf.com/en/aftermarket-portal/s...
EDIT Enquiry sent to IVC in Leeds
Edited by _Hoppers on Friday 27th January 12:35
ucb said:
_Hoppers said:
Good shout, cheers
EDIT Enquiry sent to IVC in Leeds
They are the closest to me too. EDIT Enquiry sent to IVC in Leeds
Edited by _Hoppers on Friday 27th January 12:35
Actually DarlingtonBM who service my car said they could change the gearbox oil/service it, but I'm not sure if they actually mean a like for like service to the ZF Protech.
I'll be interested to hear how you get on as I'll be getting it done this summer once I can get my other car out of the garage
Edited by _Hoppers on Friday 27th January 15:02
d_a_n1979 said:
_Hoppers said:
For all those interested, I've just been quoted £480 from Autohaus in York.
Is that genuine ZF filter & fluid do you know?Mr Whippy said:
_Hoppers said:
Autohaus Diagnostics in York seem to have a good reputation? One thing the service dept told me is that they have had customers with gearbox problems following an oil change, which is putting me off a little!
Very reasonably priced and suitably professional.
kers!!Riggie said:
Put in your preferred location and the local ZF authorised centre will be shown. I had mine done in Exeter at a cost of 320 quid. All genuine ZF parts and fluid.
https://aftermarket.zf.com/en/aftermarket-portal/s...
We've discussed this earlier in the thread https://aftermarket.zf.com/en/aftermarket-portal/s...
stewilko said:
When BMW say 'Sealed for Life', they really mean, 'Sealed For Life of our warranty'.
I changed the gearbox oil on my 335d and later my x35d, both ZF autos. Both responded well. There's a procedure you need to go though when filling back up, and as the whole sump of the gearbox is replaced some careful use of a torque wrench (it has the filter built in) . I also reset the gearbox adaptions using a hooky INPA install - the boxes adjust pressures as the oil ages so need to be reset. I think this is why people sometime have problems when the oil is changed.
A poster said you don't get all the old oil out of the torque converter, they are right, but the bulk of it does change and it made a difference to both my cars (the 335d in particular had an abrupt shift in sports mode, the oil change + reset completely fixed it).
The official ZF service kit for the x35d cost £210 (on offer), with fluid, sump and instructions.
I assumed the fluid in the torque converter was seperate to the gearbox oil, this isn't the case then?
I changed the gearbox oil on my 335d and later my x35d, both ZF autos. Both responded well. There's a procedure you need to go though when filling back up, and as the whole sump of the gearbox is replaced some careful use of a torque wrench (it has the filter built in) . I also reset the gearbox adaptions using a hooky INPA install - the boxes adjust pressures as the oil ages so need to be reset. I think this is why people sometime have problems when the oil is changed.
A poster said you don't get all the old oil out of the torque converter, they are right, but the bulk of it does change and it made a difference to both my cars (the 335d in particular had an abrupt shift in sports mode, the oil change + reset completely fixed it).
The official ZF service kit for the x35d cost £210 (on offer), with fluid, sump and instructions.
I assumed the fluid in the torque converter was seperate to the gearbox oil, this isn't the case then?
d_a_n1979 said:
_Hoppers said:
ucb said:
@_Hoppers
What did you do in the end?
After my friend at BMW saying they’ve had a few cars in with gearbox problems after the oil change plus the £500 fee for doing it, I got cold feet! It’s still in the back of my mind though.What did you do in the end?
He's been at it over 35 years and is a ZF accredited transmission specialist; I go with what he says...
Panamax said:
_Hoppers said:
After my friend at BMW saying they’ve had a few cars in with gearbox problems after the oil change plus the £500 fee for doing it, I got cold feet! It’s still in the back of my mind though.
Which is why they should generally be left alone. Sometimes the tiny particles of worn friction material circulating in the fluid can be helping tired clutches and bands to grip. Fresh fluid can then lead immediately to slippage and the need for a transmission rebuild.There's an argument that if the fluid's knackered the transmission's probably knackered. It's not as if it gets routinely contaminated with combustion deposits like engine oil or has to cope with such a wide range of temperatures. But a precautionary fluid and screen change at about 10 years or 100,000 miles doesn't seem a bad idea, so long as it's done properly.
I eventually got the box serviced! Gear changes became more noticeable, especially when cold. I got a few quotes from garages recommended here but opted for Automatic Transmissions (ZF service centre) in Huddersfield. Price was £450 which was £50 less than other quotes. Gear changes are smoother now!
ucb said:
Had my gearbox serviced too this year (Jan) on about 83k miles iirc.
Happy that I had the service done (Austrian gearboxes in Newcastle) but it was a right faff of a day..
I'll certainly consider doing it again at around 150-160k miles which will be about 3-4 years time.
I got a quote from Austrin and they were £500 IIRC. It would have been a long trip up there for me so Huddersfield and £450 was the better option!Happy that I had the service done (Austrian gearboxes in Newcastle) but it was a right faff of a day..
I'll certainly consider doing it again at around 150-160k miles which will be about 3-4 years time.
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