I might want a sporty bike…

I might want a sporty bike…

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Hungrymc

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Friday 19th April
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Hi all, I don’t have a sports bike at the moment but have the urge to get one for this summer. I’m generally enjoying a different side to bike these days but am thinking of a last hurrah with something bonkers. Shortlist was S1000RR, triumph 1200rr, Hayabusa and a few others.

Test rode a Hayabusa this week, I was on it for an hour. First impressions were the riding position is very small for a relatively large bike. It rolled side to side beautifully, the motor is obviously the main event and I was just hanging on to it when riding it hard. Because of the grunt and length, it felt quicker than the last s1000rr I owned. I’m sure it isn’t ultimately, but it piled the speed on so drama free without trying to wheelie etc like the BMW did.

Absolutely amazing bike, but I just don’t know when I’d use it over my others. I really think my age and the way the roads are policed has just put me off these bikes even though I still have the urge to run one…. What do you reckon? Can you talk me into it? Or am I lost cause and should go full pipe and slippers?

Hungrymc

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Saturday 20th April
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GSA_fattie said:
V4S, MV (art on wheels), V4 factory, the orange brand - they are bonkers

my age and the way the roads are policed - bks you've just got know where to ride
stop being a pussy and get one bought - you might be dead tommorrow or worse
Brutal !

But true. And it’s why I’m looking at getting one. But it has to add some fun / something different. I really thought it would be the Busa as a bit of a grown up sportsbike (maybe that’s a daft idea).

Hungrymc

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Saturday 20th April
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Ken_Code said:
Are any of them going to be more fun than your multistrada?
I think that’s why I’m struggling to chose. I love the multi. It handles, it’s grunty enough (maybe just), it also does two up work and long days so well.. but I have this idea of something bonkers for the summer.

Hungrymc

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Saturday 20th April
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Lambo FirstBlood said:
I’ve got a Speed Triple 1200RR.

I’ve raised the bars and done lots of other small mods.

I absolutely love it. As a road sports bike (as opposed to a race replica) I think it’s perfect.

I know the looks are marmite but I love them and the fact that lots of people, don’t makes me like it even more.

Not sure where you’re based but as it’s on your shortlist, you’re welcome to pop over and take a look.
I think they’re stunning looking bikes. I’ve been a little put off by some of the reviews and how they have described the comfort. But I’ve sat on a few including one with raised bars and that made it feel ok (very leant forward on the standard bars). I’m going to have another look at these, and thank you for the offer.

Hungrymc

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Saturday 20th April
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K1300s, s1000r, V4S, Tuono… they all seem wonderful bikes in there different ways.

I’m even more confused…. But in a good way :-)

Hungrymc

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Saturday 20th April
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KTMsm said:
IIRC from your previous posts, you know there's no point

But you'll buy one, ride at ridiculous speed, hopefully make it home without losing your license or any bodily parts and then sell it

Next Spring you'll do the same biggrin

I'm not sure if when you stop the cycle, it means you're old or wise - probably both wink
Hmmm…. Maybe I should delete the thread …. Lol

spin

Hungrymc

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Monday 22nd April
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The power to weight discussion has me feeling a little paranoid. I mean, yes, I’ve let myself go a little, but still ….. :-)

Lots of interesting ideas. I’ve never had something small and screamy, is worth thinking about. That’s a real change in direction as what I think I was looking for was something that encourages carrying corner speed, but really grunty so I don’t need to be hammering through gears. Probably something with more weight over the front wheel than my multistrada.

I’m not sure that sounds like a Busa or a H2… I guess it’s impossible to pick a bike when you’re not quite sure what you want.

I’m also starting to think my Busa test ride had the lift control left on high. I did play with the traction control but not the lift … wonder if that’s why it just seemed to gather speed with no drama.

ETA…. The one thing I do know is that I now want a 205/Cossie hybrid… that must be bonkers.

Hungrymc

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Tuesday 23rd April
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Caddyshack said:
I also have a Multistrada but went for the V2S as I wanted a bike that I could just give it death the whole time...that only does little power wheelies. I assume you have / had the V4? I also have a GSX-R 600 as wanted a semi comfy sports bike with a revvy and smooth engine.

Everyone needs a bonkers 205. The odd thing is that it still handles like a 205 even though it is mainly Cossie rally car underneath.
Mine is an older 1200 pikes peak. I think it’s a keeper as it does so much so well. I do look at V4S and V4 pikes peak, and if mine died or became too much of a pain to keep I would get one. But for the vast majority of what I use a bike for it’s brilliant. It’s quick enough to be exciting, really comfortable and a really characterful motor. I’ve become quite attached to it.

I have a cruiser along side it, and a couple of dirt bikes. But I remember the days when 200 hp was loads in a car (the days of the Cossie). It’s insane that you can get that in a bike. And the last time I had that, my road riding was getting a bit carried away (that’s a danger of engines that like to be rev’d) … this idea of a last hurrah is based on it won’t be my only bike and I won’t use it that much, so hopefully it’s a buzz without getting drawn into riding it quicker and quicker…. That’s the idea anyway.

Hungrymc

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Sunday 28th April
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Loving the MVs
Getting closer to making my mind up too.

Hungrymc

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Monday 29th April
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NITO said:
Oh, do tell….
You're going to be so disappointed with me.....

And I'm going to get some brutal comments about who makes ugly bikes.

But I've gone full circle and now am waiting for this to be delivered....


Hungrymc

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Monday 29th April
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black-k1 said:
As the 'Busa and the K1300S have been mentioned then I'd also suggest you look at the H2 SX. Like the 'Busa. it's a bit too heavy to be a true sports bike but is closer to a sports bike than the K1300S.

The advantage that both the K1300S and the H2SX have is the integral hard luggage. You can ride to the Alps in a day, spend a week scratching on the passes, then ride home in a day, all while carrying a cleans set of clothes for every day.
I came down to agonising between a Busa and a H2. Really could have gone either way even though they are quite different.

I ruled out the super nakeds and the full on sports bikes as I know how I've ended up riding them in the past and decided it had to be something a bit different. It's a bit of an unknown if I'll use the Hayabusa as I'm imagining, but I'm picturing rolling round the bends in one gear and surfing the wave of grunt. We'll see. I still have an F4 hankering, they are the most beautiful bikes.

I'm keeping my other bikes so the Multistrada will still do the longer trips (It has very good luggage).

Hungrymc

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Monday 29th April
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hiccy18 said:
Suzuki have made some ugly bikes since Toyota took over....
In nice and quick ! 10/10 :-)

Hungrymc

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Friday 3rd May
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Thanks for the comments guys, I’ve just collected it. Working out how to set up now while it’s damp and rubbish. Will be ready for any dry spells over the weekend :-)


Hungrymc

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Sunday 5th May
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It doesn’t look quite so good today…..

It’s gone like this…. Collected Hayabusa Friday. Get knocked off it on Saturday. Wake up Sunday to a message from other parties insurance accepting liability and starting to arrange to collect bike. It’s been a bit of a roller coaster, but at least the third party are playing ball.

The bike is taking a bit of getting used too. I’m really rusty at the sports bike riding position and relatively narrow bars and don’t really feel comfortable with it yet. Bike feels amazing in faster sweepers, and the performance is bonkers…. Looking forward to getting it looking it’s best again and having some fun days out on it.


Hungrymc

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Sunday 5th May
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Yep. Only minor and no injuries. Slow moving traffic and someone dived into a gap they had seen. But it wasn’t a gap as I was in it and they hadn’t seen me.

Needs some replacement panels on one side and bits and pieces (mirror and footpeg). It’s still rideable, just not as pretty as it was.

No idea how long it will take. I am a bit worried about parts availability… will get it collected and then keep my fingers crossed until I hear more.

Puts a bit of a downer on a new bike… but no injuries it will be fixed.


Hungrymc

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Tuesday 7th May
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The complication now is that my insurance, and the 3rd party, both use the same handling company. But there seems to be confusion over which department are handling it and when I'm talking to them, its unclear if they are working on the instruction of my insurance, or the third parties as they have instruction from both...... Deep breath.

Hungrymc

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Tuesday 7th May
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It would probably be better to get an estimate myself. I’m a bit tight on time at the moment and rightly or wrongly thought I’ll go with the insurance preference … the claim handling company seem to be used by most Uk bike insurers (certainly mine and the 3rd party). They claim to be an approved Suzuki repairer…. We’ll see how that pans out.

I am half expecting it to be written off. Most of the plastics on one side, lever and pegs on that side, mirror, an engine cover…I could easily believe it’s 4 or 5k of work.

One of the departments at the claim handler were quite keen for me to have a hire bike. It was a credit hire but they said they write the cost off in the event that it isn’t covered by the insurance (not sure what to make of that). Then I saw the charges which were over £300 a day for a 4 year old bike… I don’t need it, and all of our insurances are expensive enough so declined it. I was a bit conflicted as having it would ramp up the likelihood of a write off which I don’t want, but on the other hand, it’s an incentive for them to move quick which I do want. Collection of my bike is slower than the options to drop off a loan bike and collect mine.

It does seem to be that new things attract unfortunate incidents. Back in 94 I wrote off a bike I had for less than a month, and when the replacement finally came, it was only a couple of months before I damaged that… thought those days were a long way behind me.

I’m due some good luck so will pick up a couple of lottery tickets.

Hungrymc

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Wednesday 8th May
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carinaman said:
That's is a sobering watch. It did sound fishy and very wasteful.

Also makes me think maybe I should have just taken my bike to a dealer instead of letting the 3rd party insurance deal with it (as SteveKTMer said)

Hungrymc

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Wednesday 15th May
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The bike went off to be assessed yesterday. The more I look at it, the more damage I see. I really am beginning to expect a write off even though its all cosmetic.

Have also heard quite a few more horror stories about the loan / hire bike from the company that both insurers were directing me too (I'm even more pleased I didn't agree to one). It does sound insane that insurers would work so closely with an organisation that has the clear agenda of driving the cost of claims upwards. I guess ultimately the cost gets past on to their customers so as long as everyone is doing it, it doesn't cause them any pain.

Hungrymc

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Wednesday
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Thanks for the comments and examples guys. It's all a bit frustrating but its good to know that I'm not just being paranoid !

In a surprising twist, I've now been told that the repairs have been authorised, so no write off bounce
But with parts lead times etc I can expect 5 or 6 weeks before its returned weeping

In fairness, the 3rd parties insurance have been very good when I've spoken to them. And the claim management / repair company have been OK since I got away from all the hire bike stuff. I've had a few direct discussions with the tech who has been determining the repairs to my bike and he's been good. It's all going to come down to the quality of the work and lead time now.

Fingers crossed Its done well and I still get some of the summer.