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Koll

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424 posts

33 months

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Steffan said:
My worst speeding offence was 89.4 MPH on a 30 limit. It was a dual carriageway There were extenuating circumstances. I employed a good solicitor and appeared suitably contrite. Which I was. I was fined £180 and got three points.

So all is not lost. But I would not treat this lightly. Get good representation, treat you offence seriously. You may stay on the road. Good Luck.
Thanks man. I would prefer points over a ban. Your story gives me a glimmer of hope. Hopefully I will recive similar punishment. Won't hold my breath but at least there's hope! smile

Koll

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424 posts

33 months

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WhoseGeneration said:
Being "Human" is no excuse, it's a digital driven world now, where computers rule, at least on our roads.
Vote UKIP, contact your MP, voice your displeasure about the roads policing nonsense we see.
Did I say that being human was an excuse. I take it the surgery didn't go well.
Yes it's a digital world hence why I'm not trying to avoid punishment as they have proof. simply want see what my options are considering what I've heard from others...

Edited by Koll on Friday 25th May 00:25

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

76 months

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Koll said:
Did I say that being human was an excuse. I take it the surgery didn't go well.
Yes it's a digital world hence why I'm not trying to avoid punishment as they have proof. simply want see what my options are considering what I've heard from others...

Edited by Koll on Friday 25th May 00:25
Sorry, ignore my concerns, probably best, if you can afford it, to employ a very good lawyer working in the field of traffic law.

SiH

1,180 posts

116 months

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Steffan said:
My worst speeding offence was 89.4 MPH on a 30 limit. It was a dual carriageway There were extenuating circumstances. I employed a good solicitor and appeared suitably contrite. Which I was. I was fined £180 and got three points.

So all is not lost. But I would not treat this lightly. Get good representation, treat you offence seriously. You may stay on the road. Good Luck.
Sounds interesting; I'm very intrigued by what these extenuating circumstances were! Did someone have a gun to your head or something?

daz3210

5,000 posts

109 months

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Steffan said:
My worst speeding offence was 89.4 MPH on a 30 limit. It was a dual carriageway There were extenuating circumstances. I employed a good solicitor and appeared suitably contrite. Which I was. I was fined £180 and got three points.

So all is not lost. But I would not treat this lightly. Get good representation, treat you offence seriously. You may stay on the road. Good Luck.
I can't imagine what extenuates such a transgression of the limit!
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Froomee

697 posts

38 months

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I got caught doing 78mph in a 30mph, I honestly though it was a 60mph road and stated so once i was pulled over.

Anyhow I pleaded guilty as early as possible, didn't try to justify my speed at the magistrates, provided evidence that i needed my car for work and family reasons (exceptional harship)and i suggested i would be happy to take a larger fine to avoid a ban.

I got offered a 90 day ban and a £245 fine or i could pay £345 on the day and take 6 points, i took the later and the speed offence was recorded as an SP30 so my insurance didnt take a whack. This was in Essex where they are notoriously harsh on things like this.

Anyhow as others have stated treat it seriously, start thinking about why you need your car and take evidence to prove this. Good Luck smile

longblackcoat

1,260 posts

52 months

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Good luck

32 over (64%) is likely ban territory. I got 6 points & £1000 fine for 80 in a 50 getting on for a decade ago.

youngsyr

6,799 posts

61 months

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longblackcoat said:
Good luck

...I got 6 points & £1000 fine for 80 in a 50 getting on for a decade ago.
A grand?! Jesus, how many children did you kill?

10 Pence Short

27,632 posts

86 months

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Froomee said:
I got offered a 90 day ban and a £245 fine or i could pay £345 on the day and take 6 points, i took the later and the speed offence was recorded as an SP30 so my insurance didnt take a whack. This was in Essex where they are notoriously harsh on things like this.
If you had been disqualified for 90 days instead you would have had the offence code...

...wait for it...

...SP30!

wink

You wouldn't have attracted points, so you wouldn't lose 6 points space on your licence for 3 years, either.

daz3210

5,000 posts

109 months

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10 Pence Short said:
If you had been disqualified for 90 days instead you would have had the offence code...

...wait for it...

...SP30!

wink

You wouldn't have attracted points, so you wouldn't lose 6 points space on your licence for 3 years, either.
Does it say anything about a ban though?

10 Pence Short

27,632 posts

86 months

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You would declare the period of disqualification when you renew your insurance. Having been in that position, it made little difference in premium compared to adding an SP30 and 3 points.

People often approach the issue with a mind set of "avoid a ban at all costs" without considering the future implications.

A particularly stupid friend of mine was caught at 100mph in 2010 and opted to push for 6 points instead of the short ban he would normally have received. I knew the guy would find it difficult to calm his right foot, so had been telling him before the hearing to accept the short ban and the safety this would afford his licence going into the future (he was an HGV driver by profession). Within a year he was caught again, at the same place by probably the same camera van, doing 95mph. He's now jobless, homeless and 3 months into a 6 month totting up ban. His chances of getting employed locally by any agencies or hauliers is close to zero.

All this could have been avoided by taking a couple of weeks ban in 2010 and perhaps a holiday abroad whilst he waited to drive again.

Terminator X

2,133 posts

73 months

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Steffan said:
My worst speeding offence was 89.4 MPH on a 30 limit. It was a dual carriageway There were extenuating circumstances. I employed a good solicitor and appeared suitably contrite. Which I was. I was fined £180 and got three points.

So all is not lost. But I would not treat this lightly. Get good representation, treat you offence seriously. You may stay on the road. Good Luck.
WTF, thrice the limit & just 3pts ... pls explain more ears

TX.

Devil2575

4,443 posts

57 months

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10 Pence Short said:
A particularly stupid friend of mine was caught at 100mph in 2010 and opted to push for 6 points instead of the short ban he would normally have received. I knew the guy would find it difficult to calm his right foot, so had been telling him before the hearing to accept the short ban and the safety this would afford his licence going into the future (he was an HGV driver by profession). Within a year he was caught again, at the same place by probably the same camera van, doing 95mph. He's now jobless, homeless and 3 months into a 6 month totting up ban. His chances of getting employed locally by any agencies or hauliers is close to zero.

All this could have been avoided by taking a couple of weeks ban in 2010 and perhaps a holiday abroad whilst he waited to drive again.
Stupid indeed.

When I worked in a laboratory one of the technical advisors for a company that supplied us with equipment was a bit of a petrolhead. Then one visit someone else turned up instead. It turned out that he'd got 12 points and a ban and so lost his job. The daftest thing was that it was 4 lots of three points meaning he had three chances to sort himself out.

Complete feckin ejit.

longblackcoat

1,260 posts

52 months

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youngsyr said:
longblackcoat said:
Good luck

...I got 6 points & £1000 fine for 80 in a 50 getting on for a decade ago.
A grand?! Jesus, how many children did you kill?
None, nor was there any allegation of anything other than speeding. I pleaded guilty, turned up in court in a suit, really made the point that I had a clean licence and was a fine upstanding member of the community....it cut absolutely no ice whatsoever. They simply told me that I was incredibly lucky to still have a licence, having been going 60% over the limit, and that they hoped the fine would act as a sufficient deterrent.

The fact that I was riding a motorbike really didn't help. I was asked by the head magistrate why I was riding one, given that they were so dangerous. Genuinely didn't know what to make of the question, but the magistrate concerned clearly had an issue with motorcycles, 'cos the bloke ahead of me was given a similar financial hammering for a not dissimilar set of circumstances. Much higher than car drivers seemed to be getting.

Strangely, when I was caught again 1 year later, 29mph over on a motorway (again on a bike, but appearing at a different court), the punishment handed out was 5 points and a £180 fine. I was expecting a ban (and it would have been fair enough) or a gargantuan fine. In this case the magistrates pointed out the fact that any more points would mean walking for 6 months or longer, and asked me to mend my ways.

No points since (though a speed awareness course....) so I've either got better or got lucky. Or both.

discusdave

154 posts

62 months

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i got one about 4-5 months ago now (see previous post ) sent it off... still nothing back smile mabey mine was lost in the "system" wink hopefully anyhow smile

good luck

NSFW

1,402 posts

59 months

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Mine took 4 months to come through after sending back the NIP, I'm due in court for 50 in a 30 on a motorbike on 15th June - God knows what to expect, what makes it worse is that I might have to take the bike to court on the day as no one is about to give me a lift incase of a ban (not expecting one though).

My main concern is what to wear? I'm not sure a suit is the right thing but I don't want to turn up in my Vans and a pair of jeans...

digger the goat

411 posts

14 months

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NSFW said:
Mine took 4 months to come through after sending back the NIP, I'm due in court for 50 in a 30 on a motorbike on 15th June - God knows what to expect, what makes it worse is that I might have to take the bike to court on the day as no one is about to give me a lift incase of a ban (not expecting one though).

My main concern is what to wear? I'm not sure a suit is the right thing but I don't want to turn up in my Vans and a pair of jeans...
Go for the light blue collared shirt, under light brown jumper.
Very tidy pair of corduroys over some brown slip-ons !!!
Otherwise known as the 'Cameron' look !!
Either the Mag will love it or ...punish you with a huge fine.....depending on their sway !! lol

Steffan

6,190 posts

97 months

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daz3210 said:
Steffan said:
My worst speeding offence was 89.4 MPH on a 30 limit. It was a dual carriageway There were extenuating circumstances. I employed a good solicitor and appeared suitably contrite. Which I was. I was fined £180 and got three points.

So all is not lost. But I would not treat this lightly. Get good representation, treat you offence seriously. You may stay on the road. Good Luck.
I can't imagine what extenuates such a transgression of the limit!
Remarkable, how a really good lawyer can effect the attitude of magistrates. It was the quality of the representation that did it, not the excuse itself. Hence my advice. Good representation can balance a poor case.

Viperz888

367 posts

27 months

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Koll said:
had a 4.0 RS behind me and was completely distracted lol
So you were racing on the public highway?

rob.kellock

1,321 posts

61 months

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NSFW said:
Mine took 4 months to come through after sending back the NIP, I'm due in court for 50 in a 30 on a motorbike on 15th June - God knows what to expect, what makes it worse is that I might have to take the bike to court on the day as no one is about to give me a lift incase of a ban (not expecting one though).

My main concern is what to wear? I'm not sure a suit is the right thing but I don't want to turn up in my Vans and a pair of jeans...
4 - 6 points OR disqualify 7 to 28 days. Band B fine, 75 to 125% relevant weekly income less one third credit for an early plea.

Wear a cheap suit with a shirt one collar size too small and a tie - you're trying to show you take it seriously and you're not loaded. Or just send a nice letter and don't lose a day's holiday.

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