UK Customs checks

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Biker9090

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733 posts

37 months

Thursday 28th March
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Just returned from my first European Motorcycle journey (solo). Didn't have any issues outbound last Friday and everyone was fine.

On the way back at Calais I get a snotty UK passport guy dealing with me when a woman over his shoulder tells me to go to a booth for checks.

Here they take my luggage all apart. I'm asked when I left, if I have proof of the outbound journey, what date the outbound ticket was issued, proof of where I stayed, where I work, who I met, what I bought, that I know importation of drugs and guns is illegal etc etc etc. Whilst I was polite to begin with I admit to getting pretty bloody angry at this point considering I'd rushed to get there on time yet had to put up with this.

Is this really what you have to go through now? I've been all over and even USA customs/border isn't this invasive. Do these questions really need to be answered?

For clarity here I was travelling on my Irish passport but also have a UK one (born in the UK to British Father and British/Irish Mother).

What's the actual process if you declined to say what you did - considering I'm a British citizen.

This is as much curiosity as it is being treated like a bloody criminal trying to reenter my own country. They also had several other cars they were pulling apart Inc an old guy having his range rover stripped.

M11rph

576 posts

21 months

Thursday 28th March
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Most detailed searches are intelligence led, so there was probably information that led them to target your arrival.

The questions might seem obtuse but often quickly trip up people who haven't got their story straight.

It can be frustrating but there is nothing to be gained by showing that. I have seen cars physically disassembled at Dover.

You will not win an argument with Customs.


nordboy

1,464 posts

50 months

Thursday 28th March
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Is this one of those, 'I want customs and immigration to stop any criminal activity and access to the UK, as long as it doesn't include and inconvenience me' threads?

Is it 'your' country if you were travelling on an Irish passport? wink

Jordie Barretts sock

4,137 posts

19 months

Thursday 28th March
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If you don't want to be treated as a foreign national at UK Immigration, don't travel on a foreign passport.

You were an Irish citizen travelling alone attempting to enter the UK.

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th March
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M11rph said:
It can be frustrating but there is nothing to be gained by showing that. I have seen cars physically disassembled at Dover.

You will not win an argument with Customs.
Being an arse with Customs or BF will never get you anywhere you want to be quickly. Be polite answer their questions is the easiest way.

If you have a UK passport why you'd not enter on it is beyond me though.

Peter911

483 posts

157 months

Thursday 28th March
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GT03ROB said:
Being an arse with Customs or BF will never get you anywhere you want to be quickly. Be polite answer their questions is the easiest way.

If you have a UK passport why you'd not enter on it is beyond me though.
Probably because he’s the type of person that knows best. Good to see custom officials can also spot this type a mile off

119

6,305 posts

36 months

Thursday 28th March
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Biker9090 said:
Just returned from my first European Motorcycle journey (solo). Didn't have any issues outbound last Friday and everyone was fine.

On the way back at Calais I get a snotty UK passport guy dealing with me when a woman over his shoulder tells me to go to a booth for checks.

Here they take my luggage all apart. I'm asked when I left, if I have proof of the outbound journey, what date the outbound ticket was issued, proof of where I stayed, where I work, who I met, what I bought, that I know importation of drugs and guns is illegal etc etc etc. Whilst I was polite to begin with I admit to getting pretty bloody angry at this point considering I'd rushed to get there on time yet had to put up with this.

Is this really what you have to go through now? I've been all over and even USA customs/border isn't this invasive. Do these questions really need to be answered?

For clarity here I was travelling on my Irish passport but also have a UK one (born in the UK to British Father and British/Irish Mother).

What's the actual process if you declined to say what you did - considering I'm a British citizen.

This is as much curiosity as it is being treated like a bloody criminal trying to reenter my own country. They also had several other cars they were pulling apart Inc an old guy having his range rover stripped.
Annoying as it may be, surely it is good they are tightening down on checks?

As an aside, glad i am not travelling further than my front door this weekend.


nute

693 posts

107 months

Thursday 28th March
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Biker9090 said:
Just returned from my first European Motorcycle journey (solo). Didn't have any issues outbound last Friday and everyone was fine.

On the way back at Calais I get a snotty UK passport guy dealing with me when a woman over his shoulder tells me to go to a booth for checks.

Here they take my luggage all apart. I'm asked when I left, if I have proof of the outbound journey, what date the outbound ticket was issued, proof of where I stayed, where I work, who I met, what I bought, that I know importation of drugs and guns is illegal etc etc etc. Whilst I was polite to begin with I admit to getting pretty bloody angry at this point considering I'd rushed to get there on time yet had to put up with this.

Is this really what you have to go through now? I've been all over and even USA customs/border isn't this invasive. Do these questions really need to be answered?

For clarity here I was travelling on my Irish passport but also have a UK one (born in the UK to British Father and British/Irish Mother).

What's the actual process if you declined to say what you did - considering I'm a British citizen.

This is as much curiosity as it is being treated like a bloody criminal trying to reenter my own country. They also had several other cars they were pulling apart Inc an old guy having his range rover stripped.
Sadly you won’t get any sympathy here, you have to be a good little drone and not express your frustration frown

768

13,682 posts

96 months

Thursday 28th March
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Biker9090 said:
For clarity here I was travelling on my Irish passport
rolleyes

Forester1965

1,466 posts

3 months

Thursday 28th March
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
If you don't want to be treated as a foreign national at UK Immigration, don't travel on a foreign passport.

You were an Irish citizen travelling alone attempting to enter the UK.
He said in his post he's a UK citizen.

Hol

8,417 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th March
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nute said:
Sadly you won’t get any sympathy here, you have to be a good little drone and not express your frustration frown
Not really.

Have you tried just not acting like the centre of the universe when dealing with other people?



Edited by Hol on Thursday 28th March 07:47

whimsical ninja

138 posts

27 months

Thursday 28th March
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siremoon

194 posts

99 months

Thursday 28th March
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Let's speculate shall we

One of those people who, being eligible, expressed their displeasure at failing to win a democratic vote in 2016 by taking out an Irish passport maybe?

Used said passport to travel around the EU maybe?

Used said passport re-entering the UK to make a point maybe?

Whinge on here when said passport identifies you as a non-UK citizen maybe?

Thing is many UK and non-UK passport holders attempting to enter the UK are stopped, questioned and their luggage examined every day at ports of entry. I'm a UK citizen and have always held a UK passport. It's happened to me loads of times before and after the B word that I assume this post is a veiled whinge about. Deal with it.

ferret50

911 posts

9 months

Thursday 28th March
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Try Newhaven-Dieppe next time, far more relaxed than Dover.

Although on one inbound trip they did pull a motorhome in that was crewed by three large Irish 'gentlemen'....

Jordie Barretts sock

4,137 posts

19 months

Thursday 28th March
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Forester1965 said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
If you don't want to be treated as a foreign national at UK Immigration, don't travel on a foreign passport.

You were an Irish citizen travelling alone attempting to enter the UK.
He said in his post he's a UK citizen.
Not as far as Border Force were concerned. He was a citizen of the Irish Republic.


Hol

8,417 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th March
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
If you don't want to be treated as a foreign national at UK Immigration, don't travel on a foreign passport.

You were an Irish citizen travelling alone attempting to enter the UK.
And.. that isn’t just automatically an anti Irish vibe, it’s more likely be cause the OP fit the approximate description of an alert subject that day.


There’s many a time that I have walked into the customs area of an airport to see the staff immediately look over my shoulder, because I don’t match the person(s) they are looking for.

craigjm

17,956 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th March
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Forester1965 said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
If you don't want to be treated as a foreign national at UK Immigration, don't travel on a foreign passport.

You were an Irish citizen travelling alone attempting to enter the UK.
He said in his post he's a UK citizen.
Yes but he was travelling on Irish paperwork one assumes to make it easier to travel into the EU so he would be treated as a foreign citizen.

OP there was obviously some intel that you got caught up in and unfortunately you failed the attitude test that’s pretty much it

Forester1965

1,466 posts

3 months

Thursday 28th March
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Had he wished he could have chosen to re-enter the UK using his British passport.

GriffoDP

189 posts

137 months

Thursday 28th March
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Hol said:
And.. that isn’t just automatically an anti Irish vibe, it’s more likely be cause the OP fit the approximate description of an alert subject that day.


There’s many a time that I have walked into the customs area of an airport to see the staff immediately look over my shoulder, because I don’t match the person(s) they are looking for.
It's probably also that drug smuggling parrot you take with you :P.

Two bikey friends and I were invited to the customs area on our way out of the UK last year - all UK passports :P. We had a nice chat with them as they swabbed the bikes for cat lips or whatever the cool kids are exporting these days. They had a look in a couple of easy to access bags and that was that. Reassuring and I assume our eagerness to jabber about the upcoming trip helped us look like non cat lip exporting decent people.

Edit: On my way back 4 weeks later, on my own and with many Balkans stamps... all good smile. I have always encountered nice people at the tunnel check bits.

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th March
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Hol said:
There’s many a time that I have walked into the customs area of an airport to see the staff immediately look over my shoulder, because I don’t match the person(s) they are looking for.
To be frank most of the time I walk into the customs area of airports there's nobody to be seen. On the odd occasion you will see what must be the whole of the airports customs people standing at the entrance to the green channel!