SEAC For Sale

SEAC For Sale

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Wedg1e

26,807 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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NCK075... only 30 engines after my car!

350Wedge

2,364 posts

274 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Random slightly off topic question, is it unusual for a 400SE to have an NCK engine number?? I thought they were 390SE, 450SE and SEAC related?

Wedg1e

26,807 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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350Wedge said:
Random slightly off topic question, is it unusual for a 400SE to have an NCK engine number?? I thought they were 390SE, 450SE and SEAC related?
Maybe the first few 400SEs had the engines done by NCK while TVR waited for Landrover to sort out their own '4L' - the 3948cc. What year is the 400? Is it a hotwire?

Campbell

2,499 posts

284 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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350Wedge said:
blaineuk said:
if i had seen this at the ebay price i would have had it.frown
You and me both, only £8.5k on buy it now!!

Can't see it selling for a substantial period of time, not at that price!!
If you think about it, if the seller didnt get a bite on ebay and after dropping the price it looks like he wanted to get the best price it looks like he is spending a lot on the looks and intera, just think what it would cost you to put a new roof carpets and paint, im sure that will cost a bit and the seller will want that back in the price.
I think the price is high but they are rare cars and should have a higher value that a standard wedge.
Still some one should have bought the car when it was at lowest price.

Cambelt

Wedg1e

26,807 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Campbell, what's a 'standard' wedge?

350Wedge

2,364 posts

274 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Campbell said:
350Wedge said:
blaineuk said:
if i had seen this at the ebay price i would have had it.frown
You and me both, only £8.5k on buy it now!!

Can't see it selling for a substantial period of time, not at that price!!
If you think about it, if the seller didnt get a bite on ebay and after dropping the price it looks like he wanted to get the best price it looks like he is spending a lot on the looks and intera, just think what it would cost you to put a new roof carpets and paint, im sure that will cost a bit and the seller will want that back in the price.
I think the price is high but they are rare cars and should have a higher value that a standard wedge.
Still some one should have bought the car when it was at lowest price.

Cambelt
That buy it now price disappeared though as soon as the first bid was made due to no reserve on the car. The bidding had got up to over £7k and rising when the listing was pulled early. If the buy it now had remained because of a reserve I would have bought it instead of the 400SE I bought shortly afterwards.

It may be a rarer car but there are few people that would part with over £17k for it even with a re-spray and trim, I'm certainly not one of them!

Mr Tank

5,797 posts

276 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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350Wedge said:
That buy it now price disappeared though as soon as the first bid was made due to no reserve on the car. The bidding had got up to over £7k and rising when the listing was pulled early. If the buy it now had remained because of a reserve I would have bought it instead of the 400SE I bought shortly afterwards.
Hi

As I said earlier I had bid on the car and was in discussion with the owner, then somebody (Who will remain nameless, but he tried the same thing with me when I was selling my Taimar turbo) viewed the car and flashed the cash and got it!
Again as I said earlier I do hate that!

Andy

AM400

1,196 posts

264 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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350Wedge said:
Random slightly off topic question, is it unusual for a 400SE to have an NCK engine number?? I thought they were 390SE, 450SE and SEAC related?
MY 400 is an NCK, one of the first 1988 cars. It also has a super rare pre Serp Poly V drive. Only seen a handful of these and they have been on SEAC's. Guess I was luck with the parts bin! smile

Andy

Wedg1e

26,807 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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AM400 said:
350Wedge said:
Random slightly off topic question, is it unusual for a 400SE to have an NCK engine number?? I thought they were 390SE, 450SE and SEAC related?
MY 400 is an NCK, one of the first 1988 cars. It also has a super rare pre Serp Poly V drive. Only seen a handful of these and they have been on SEAC's. Guess I was luck with the parts bin! smile

Andy
scratchchin Any idea if it's actually 3948cc, or 3905cc as per the 390?

Lesliehedley

239 posts

261 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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My 400 is also an NCK engine. It's a 1990, one of the last I think.

Wedg1e

26,807 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Lesliehedley said:
My 400 is also an NCK engine. It's a 1990, one of the last I think.
There's a J-plate one near me in Teesside, so they must have kept going a bit longer...

350Wedge

2,364 posts

274 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Wedg1e said:
Lesliehedley said:
My 400 is also an NCK engine. It's a 1990, one of the last I think.
There's a J-plate one near me in Teesside, so they must have kept going a bit longer...
Mine is September 1990 and has NCK-33HW as an engine number

AM400

1,196 posts

264 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Wedg1e said:
AM400 said:
350Wedge said:
Random slightly off topic question, is it unusual for a 400SE to have an NCK engine number?? I thought they were 390SE, 450SE and SEAC related?
MY 400 is an NCK, one of the first 1988 cars. It also has a super rare pre Serp Poly V drive. Only seen a handful of these and they have been on SEAC's. Guess I was luck with the parts bin! smile

Andy
scratchchin Any idea if it's actually 3948cc, or 3905cc as per the 390?
Anybody's guess! Logbook states 3988 but it has had the usual change from 3498 at the second owner change.

Campbell

2,499 posts

284 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Wedg1e said:
Campbell, what's a 'standard' wedge?
Thats an interesting question as over time they have all changed in some way shape or form as the owners put there touches on there cars but thats the same for all Tvr's

What I think would stand as a standard car is a car thats not been overly changed from the factory.
If you have changed suspention or engine then the car isnt standard.
As for the SEAC model it was a racer that ended up as a road car, its more on the edge to drive not as easy to live with unlike the SE models.
This car may not be worth that the current price as people may not have the money spare to pay for a toy.
A car is only worth what some one is willing to pay for it.

Cambelt

Wedg1e

26,807 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Campbell said:
Wedg1e said:
Campbell, what's a 'standard' wedge?
Thats an interesting question as over time they have all changed in some way shape or form as the owners put there touches on there cars but thats the same for all Tvr's

What I think would stand as a standard car is a car thats not been overly changed from the factory.
If you have changed suspention or engine then the car isnt standard.
As for the SEAC model it was a racer that ended up as a road car, its more on the edge to drive not as easy to live with unlike the SE models.
This car may not be worth that the current price as people may not have the money spare to pay for a toy.
A car is only worth what some one is willing to pay for it.

Cambelt
Ah, but the SEAC itself was a standard car in TVR terms wink

In principle a SEAC is going to be worth more than almost any other model with the 450 worth more than a 420 (assuming negligible difference in condition), largely because that reflects how they sold in the first place.
I guess it depends on how you want to present your car: would you be happy with a scruffy SEAC or would an immaculate 350i that needs nothing doing suit your taste better? For me, I don't mind my car being a bit of a shed; it's still what it is and my enjoyment doesn't particularly come from making sure that I can see my face in the tyre walls - but I wouldn't denegrate anyone who needs that buzz.

I was offered a SEAC for £8K a few years ago that the seller freely admitted needed £4K spending on it to bring it up to the average £12K that they were fetching then. I didn't think that all the work was necessary - most of it was cosmetic - and I'd have lived with that and kept the money in the bank. The car on Ebay could well be the same: what it actually 'needs' and what you could live with will determine your ultimate investment in time and money.

People will always find the money for toys, there are few 'feel-goods' left...

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,552 posts

214 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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My 89 400SE is a NCK engine also, plus had a very rare fresh air mod, from front dam to side air vent's Paul GSX600 had the only other one I've seen like it, mine was a show room demonstrator car though.

chapperssx

753 posts

172 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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The SEAC looks a little more attractive at the revised price ?

350Wedge

2,364 posts

274 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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chapperssx said:
The SEAC looks a little more attractive at the revised price ?
That doesn't include it having a re-spray now though, still too pricey IMO of course.

blaineuk

2,615 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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350Wedge said:
chapperssx said:
The SEAC looks a little more attractive at the revised price ?
That doesn't include it having a re-spray now though, still too pricey IMO of course.
my thoughts to,5k for new hood and carpets is alot, 10k would be about right.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

239 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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The bill for the new hood and carpets in the 390SE I bought last year (done at the most 2 years previously) was around £900 all in.