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Roo
5,842 posts
76 months
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crmcatee said: Well since you couldn't look on the Highways page yourself, let me assist you. My copy came through the door. Here ya go..the leaflet You're right, I couldn't so thanks for that. captainzep said: So, when the variable speed limit isn't activated, will the cameras still be enforcing the 70 limit? I thought they could only work if the speed limit had a red circle round it.
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scruffty
53 posts
61 months
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I got the same letter and leaflet today. end of an era. bad news....
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john1967
1 posts
33 months
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Hi just like to say that I received email today from Highways Agency about M20 variable cameras and having read through the links, I can say that when the variable limits are on, the cameras are governed by the Highway Agency, but this will only be enforced at rush hour times and any fines will be paid into the Treasury. What it also said is that Kent police are also able to set the cameras to 70mph at there choosing and all those fines will be paid to Kent police. So considering the shortfall in the police funding and an estimated 100,000 cars using this stretch of road, this will no doubt make up that shortfall! Also in the link was a bit about public consultation, all 73 of them, and goes on to say those who were consulted were made up of Maidstone Borough, Tonbridge and Malling Council members and Kent police, not exactly 'public' members in my opinion!
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Tallbut Buxomly
11,832 posts
85 months
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True but not exactly difficult to avoid them is it. Theres only three sets.
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Mr_annie_vxr
9,235 posts
80 months
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These go live mid month. 23rd I think.
Not sure on enforcement aspect. It's not as clear as it appears.
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scruffty
53 posts
61 months
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the public consultation did go public, I for one responded... In total 73 responses were received with 41 in favour of the scheme and 32 not in favour. In percentage terms, this represents 56% in support and 44% against. Those in favour include local government organisations: Maidstone Borough Council; Tonbridge and Malling Borough Council; Kent County Council (Kent Highways Services). what a surprise! The full report is here: http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/documents/M20_CM_...it was criminal that the cameras went up and were funded without the consultation getting approval, obviously they knew it would...
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crmcatee
3,941 posts
96 months
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So that makes 30 others who objected to the scheme.
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C8PPO
5,814 posts
72 months
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WhiteBaron
1,024 posts
95 months
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BUMP Mr_annie_vxr said: These go live mid month. 23rd I think. I've also heard this is the start date - that will be tommorrow!!!!! cruise control at the ready. steve
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Digby
3,144 posts
115 months
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They were on today.Red ring, 60 mph.I drive that route every day at around the same time and all it did was bunch everyone up, just like the M25 ones do.Great.
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jammy_basturd
Original Poster
8,123 posts
81 months
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Was willing to give these a shot, if they were going to help traffic, but the last two days have confirmed that they are simply being used as a cash cow.
Last night, 6pm, got on the M20 at the Kings Hill junction, mandatory 60mph which was fair enough because the traffic was quite heavy. One junction later and the speed limit dropped to 50mph, but the traffic was a little lighter. At the A229 turn off, where half the traffic disappears the limit was then dropped to 40mph. Just as the traffic got a lot more free flowing and everyone started thinking of speeding up slightly, everyone had to slam on their brakes!
Then, the past two mornings, London bound, at roughly 8.30am, the limit has been set to a mandatory 60mph, even though the traffic level could be set at moderate at best!
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tr7v8
3,999 posts
97 months
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And none of this will fix the main problem & that is sideswipe accidents by foreign lorries.
It has been causing massive bunching of cars since the gantries went up, now that enforcement is in place watch the nose to tail shunts rise the same as this stupid system did on the M25.
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Digby
3,144 posts
115 months
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C8PPO said: So the majority who voted yes, also suggested the main reason was for lower carbon emissions and lower noise levels. Reducing accidents came quite a bit lower on the pie chart.Making motorways slower.Welcome to modern Britain! I'm sure the stop, start, congested rubbish they have created, will boost those carbon levels and increase noise no end.Are these people for real?
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Westy Pre-Lit
4,370 posts
72 months
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jammy_basturd
Original Poster
8,123 posts
81 months
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Yup, another pretty clear stretch of motorway coastbound this evening at 6pm, but those dam limits were on at 60mph!
Accident on the London bound side too!
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autoholic
353 posts
80 months
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Saw one of these flash last night, no not at me! Phew!
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Pilgrimage
6 posts
82 months
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Just a heads up – the speed cameras on the M20 were flashing south bound traffic just before the A249 turn off this morning.
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DamienCBR
1,954 posts
92 months
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Pilgrimage said: Just a heads up – the speed cameras on the M20 were flashing south bound traffic just before the A249 turn off this morning. That one flashes a lot. D
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Pilgrimage
6 posts
82 months
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mark165
42 posts
102 months
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These are getting very tiresome now and the speed limits seem to entirely arbitrary at times. With the up and down 60-40-50 limits, I'm constantly surprised that an HGV hasn't yet ploughed into me.
The very first gantry Northbound for the last few days has been set at 50mph which, as it's on a downhill stretch requires people who for the vast majority are driving a few mph over 70mph anyway, to either ignore the limit or slam on the anchors.
Has anyone got a contact email?
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. Then slowing drivers when there's a clear road improves journey times.....wow the nut job who come up with that idea must be rather spechall I must say 
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king Christ give me strength..... how moronic do you have to be. Well lets just balls up a whole traffic system for a few hours a day so the complaining morons can eat their dinner in peace 
