RE: Last Ever Blackpool TVR
Discussion
Roop said:
Is it just me or does that look like a very wide M...?
Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
Did I read it was like that because it was based on one of the Canadian M's?Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
L100NYY said:
rude-boy said:
L100NYY said:
Was there yesterday to see the car in action, awesome doesn't even come close...............
With a Lotus in Gold Leaf colours, spending most of your day at Druids and leaving just after the last FPA race?The TVR was superb, massive flame outs.
GBRM said:
intermediate said:
funny car!
just need a copy of the homologation and under bonnet pictures
Homologation papers? I don't think so!!just need a copy of the homologation and under bonnet pictures
Not exactly FIA - Paper Paaaa.
This is the same Wheeler that sold half a company to the poor Russian boy (did not even sell the factory to build them - dodgy leasing subletting deals), and now he comes and rent the old space to this lot to Hop up some old M's. Laughable.
He just got bored and wanted out after doing a great job with the company from the mid 80's to mid 2000's. The Russian never had a chance (especially with the Chocolate 6 cylinder lumps!).
Take the money and run.
Not even sure why I am bothering writing this.....................
jellison said:
This is the same Wheeler that sold half a company to the poor Russian boy (did not even sell the factory to build them - dodgy leasing subletting deals), and now he comes and rent the old space to this lot to Hop up some old M's. Laughable.
He sold the company. The company didn't own the factory or the land. Not his problem that the Russian did no diligence whatsoever. Would you buy a house without having someone check the deeds?Anyway, it remains his factory and what is the problem with him employing 3 of his old race dept engineers to build him a car?
Personally I think its great that he's back racing a TVR
Roop said:
Is it just me or does that look like a very wide M...?
Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
What you mean rather wide and rather long? Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
Great to see him back behind the wheel of a TVR.
TVR_owner said:
Roop said:
Is it just me or does that look like a very wide M...?
Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
What you mean rather wide and rather long? Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
Great to see him back behind the wheel of a TVR.
Christ alive those Heritage lot will take anything.
If that can be raced no real reason a Tuscam with Sag race body and and LS can't.
The streching and widening is Daft as Daft (TVR_owner)
says.I'd be bloody Pissed off if I was out in the Heritage with a Real Griff (i.e. correct short wheelbase) and narrower car, with narrower rims. If this is cobbled together with a Tuscan 90's race chassis and a cut and shut body and longer wheelbase then it is not right. These cars were NEVER made.
And the one it claims to be copies of were JUST a straight forward 3000M with the Ford lump in.
Christ this might as well be the Super GT series.
RobboC said:
L100NYY said:
rude-boy said:
L100NYY said:
Was there yesterday to see the car in action, awesome doesn't even come close...............
With a Lotus in Gold Leaf colours, spending most of your day at Druids and leaving just after the last FPA race?The TVR was superb, massive flame outs.
Ahr, Mr Robbo, I can put another 'spotted' down then. Saw you with your boot open and nearly popped over to engage in random car chat (okay, remind myself what the boot space is like on those so I can be 100% when I tell the g/f not enough for her needs!) but then it started to rain, again.
We were in the Boxster behind you.
rude-boy said:
RobboC said:
L100NYY said:
rude-boy said:
L100NYY said:
Was there yesterday to see the car in action, awesome doesn't even come close...............
With a Lotus in Gold Leaf colours, spending most of your day at Druids and leaving just after the last FPA race?The TVR was superb, massive flame outs.
Ahr, Mr Robbo, I can put another 'spotted' down then. Saw you with your boot open and nearly popped over to engage in random car chat (okay, remind myself what the boot space is like on those so I can be 100% when I tell the g/f not enough for her needs!) but then it started to rain, again.
We were in the gay car behind you.
I'll check on the rules tomorrow - but looks to me this is totally bent.
Most on here will not give a SH*T - but some of the racers with older car might think it is NOT RIGHT.
If I was at the meeting in a period car and this HUGELY wide thing was lapping faster I'd be bloody putting in an appeal.
I have owned a 3000M and currently own a Chim (which is the same width as a Tuscan 90's racer) - the later car is MUCH WIDER.
The Heritage is for period (but can have alot of engine tuning) 60's and 70's cars, not a siloeutte series (which is waht this car is). There are LOADS of 3000M's, 2500M's and 1600Ms with 289 or 032 fords in but on the std length and width chassis.
BENT - but then Wheeler did always like an advantage - 4.7 or bigger Race engines and still no better than mid grid in the Tuscans.
Most on here will not give a SH*T - but some of the racers with older car might think it is NOT RIGHT.
If I was at the meeting in a period car and this HUGELY wide thing was lapping faster I'd be bloody putting in an appeal.
I have owned a 3000M and currently own a Chim (which is the same width as a Tuscan 90's racer) - the later car is MUCH WIDER.
The Heritage is for period (but can have alot of engine tuning) 60's and 70's cars, not a siloeutte series (which is waht this car is). There are LOADS of 3000M's, 2500M's and 1600Ms with 289 or 032 fords in but on the std length and width chassis.
BENT - but then Wheeler did always like an advantage - 4.7 or bigger Race engines and still no better than mid grid in the Tuscans.
Jelson or what ever your name is.You seem to have a bit of a dislike for pw.From reading your previous posts the rumors must be true you are a complete and utter """"er
Indeed. Mind Heritage do not really care about this stuff. They will take any old basic shap and let you wack in some engine that was vaguely related to something that MIGHT HAVE ben in ooo Any pre existing TVR.
Not exactly FIA - Paper Paaaa.
This is the same Wheeler that sold half a company to the poor Russian boy (did not even sell the factory to build them - dodgy leasing subletting deals), and now he comes and rent the old space to this lot to Hop up some old M's. Laughable.
He just got bored and wanted out after doing a great job with the company from the mid 80's to mid 2000's. The Russian never had a chance (especially with the Chocolate 6 cylinder lumps!).
Take the money and run.
Not even sure why I am bothering writing this.....................
jellison said:
GBRM said:
intermediate said:
funny car!
just need a copy of the homologation and under bonnet pictures
Homologation papers? I don't think so!!just need a copy of the homologation and under bonnet pictures
Not exactly FIA - Paper Paaaa.
This is the same Wheeler that sold half a company to the poor Russian boy (did not even sell the factory to build them - dodgy leasing subletting deals), and now he comes and rent the old space to this lot to Hop up some old M's. Laughable.
He just got bored and wanted out after doing a great job with the company from the mid 80's to mid 2000's. The Russian never had a chance (especially with the Chocolate 6 cylinder lumps!).
Take the money and run.
Not even sure why I am bothering writing this.....................
jellison said:
TVR_owner said:
Roop said:
Is it just me or does that look like a very wide M...?
Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
What you mean rather wide and rather long? Looking at it, wheelbase, cambers, type (and width) of wheels, exhaust exit point etc and it's almost as if it's a funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
funny M body on a racing Tuscan chassis...
Great to see him back behind the wheel of a TVR.
Christ alive those Heritage lot will take anything.
If that can be raced no real reason a Tuscam with Sag race body and and LS can't.
The streching and widening is Daft as Daft (TVR_owner)
says.I'd be bloody Pissed off if I was out in the Heritage with a Real Griff (i.e. correct short wheelbase) and narrower car, with narrower rims. If this is cobbled together with a Tuscan 90's race chassis and a cut and shut body and longer wheelbase then it is not right. These cars were NEVER made.
And the one it claims to be copies of were JUST a straight forward 3000M with the Ford lump in.
Christ this might as well be the Super GT series.
Years ago Car Magazine did an article on the Blackpool TVRs and sent a photographer up there in one to capture some local flavour. He parked it next to the railings on the Blackpool Seafront in the pouring rain and retired to the opposite side of the road with his camera. Before long a damp bloke in a mac squelched past carrying a deckchair. The double page pic is the dejected bloke looking back at the car. It's brilliant.
That wasn't relevant at all, was it?
That wasn't relevant at all, was it?
KIRSTM said:
jellison said:
Most on here will not give a SH*T
You'd be right 
If I were lined up on the grid next to him on Sunday in my M racer and he dissapeared into the distance after 2 laps, I'd be too busy laughing to consider even thinking about protesting the legality of his car.
If that makes me odd, then it just confirms what the wife thinks...
eggy trev said:
Jelson or what ever your name is.You seem to have a bit of a dislike for pw.From reading your previous posts the rumors must be true you are a complete and utter """"er
Indeed. Mind Heritage do not really care about this stuff. They will take any old basic shap and let you wack in some engine that was vaguely related to something that MIGHT HAVE ben in ooo Any pre existing TVR.
Not exactly FIA - Paper Paaaa.
This is the same Wheeler that sold half a company to the poor Russian boy (did not even sell the factory to build them - dodgy leasing subletting deals), and now he comes and rent the old space to this lot to Hop up some old M's. Laughable.
He just got bored and wanted out after doing a great job with the company from the mid 80's to mid 2000's. The Russian never had a chance (especially with the Chocolate 6 cylinder lumps!).
Take the money and run.
Not even sure why I am bothering writing this.....................
I dont think he likes the HGTs or the AMOC Super GT,jellison said:
GBRM said:
intermediate said:
funny car!
just need a copy of the homologation and under bonnet pictures
Homologation papers? I don't think so!!just need a copy of the homologation and under bonnet pictures
Not exactly FIA - Paper Paaaa.
This is the same Wheeler that sold half a company to the poor Russian boy (did not even sell the factory to build them - dodgy leasing subletting deals), and now he comes and rent the old space to this lot to Hop up some old M's. Laughable.
He just got bored and wanted out after doing a great job with the company from the mid 80's to mid 2000's. The Russian never had a chance (especially with the Chocolate 6 cylinder lumps!).
Take the money and run.
Not even sure why I am bothering writing this.....................
But lets not start a fight, that would be childish !
Clowns to the left Jokers to the right.
Reading this thread- real shame there is still so much b
hiness in the TVR community over all sorts of things from the Speed 6 engines to Wheeler etc etc.
If the car was 5000M was illegal, up to scrutineers and fellow competitors to take it up.
I think the main thing is that it's positive TVR publicity and shows how strong the brand still is. Hopefully things like this will help keep the brand alive for the day when a modern day, reliable Chevy/Ford engined Griff/Chim is made again, that appeals to the masses....
hiness in the TVR community over all sorts of things from the Speed 6 engines to Wheeler etc etc.If the car was 5000M was illegal, up to scrutineers and fellow competitors to take it up.
I think the main thing is that it's positive TVR publicity and shows how strong the brand still is. Hopefully things like this will help keep the brand alive for the day when a modern day, reliable Chevy/Ford engined Griff/Chim is made again, that appeals to the masses....
3doorPete said:
Reading this thread- real shame there is still so much bhiness in the TVR community over all sorts of things from the Speed 6 engines to Wheeler etc etc.
If the car was 5000M was illegal, up to scrutineers and fellow competitors to take it up.
I think the main thing is that it's positive TVR publicity and shows how strong the brand still is. Hopefully things like this will help keep the brand alive for the day when a modern day, reliable Chevy/Ford engined Griff/Chim is made again, that appeals to the masses....
Well said 3doorpete.hiness in the TVR community over all sorts of things from the Speed 6 engines to Wheeler etc etc.If the car was 5000M was illegal, up to scrutineers and fellow competitors to take it up.
I think the main thing is that it's positive TVR publicity and shows how strong the brand still is. Hopefully things like this will help keep the brand alive for the day when a modern day, reliable Chevy/Ford engined Griff/Chim is made again, that appeals to the masses....
Having owned a 3000M and upgraded to a Chimaera I have always loved the M more for some reason. Having seen photos of the 5000M and looked at the rear shoots you can see it is an M Series Chassis from the rear and the engine shot also proves its an M Chassis.
If you never owned an M and never worked on one, you will never know how to tell, but its an M alright and boy its good to see the Best TVR ever is the Last TVR ever to leave the Factory.
Lets hope we have some more 5000M being built for sale soon. My name will be done for one and the divorce will follow, but I would have one.
Well done Peter & Ben on your first outing.
Colin L
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