RS2000, not its Best Colour?
Discussion
aeropilot said:
MarkwG said:
vpr said:
MarkwG said:
vpr said:
Looks nice but a strong estimate given there’s so much not right
What is it that offends you?But I’m not offended by upgrades so much as this being Feb 1980 registered in shouldn’t have black interior, or the chassis tag positioned on the slam panel (unless it was a 79MY hanging around for an awfully long time) plus it has Capri headrests.
Does a new interior really detract from the value when it's arguably a better colour? So long as it's present and correct and don't to a high standard, maybe even better than the original?
Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
AceRockatansky said:
Does a new interior really detract from the value when it's arguably a better colour? So long as it's present and correct and don't to a high standard, maybe even better than the original?
Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
All of which is fine, but incorrect cars (for whatever reason) don't command top prices.Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
As the number of mods go up, so the price comes down.
aeropilot said:
AceRockatansky said:
Does a new interior really detract from the value when it's arguably a better colour? So long as it's present and correct and don't to a high standard, maybe even better than the original?
Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
All of which is fine, but incorrect cars (for whatever reason) don't command top prices.Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
As the number of mods go up, so the price comes down.
Nowadays , I don't do anything that's not reversible and keep all the standard bits to put back on after.
aeropilot said:
AceRockatansky said:
Does a new interior really detract from the value when it's arguably a better colour? So long as it's present and correct and don't to a high standard, maybe even better than the original?
Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
All of which is fine, but incorrect cars (for whatever reason) don't command top prices.Particularly engine wise, that manifold and maybe even some side draught carbs would make it more lively?
As the number of mods go up, so the price comes down.
The Ford RS world is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
Edited by vpr on Saturday 10th February 16:57
vpr said:
Correct
The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
the ford world has a sad minority of mentally ill people that huddle in car shows comparing the originality of their nuts.The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
early 80s most just wanted to thrash or rally them.
its no wonder that a bufty special is worth less than a restomod
500swk said:
vpr said:
Correct
The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
the ford world has a sad minority of mentally ill people that huddle in car shows comparing the originality of their nuts.The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
early 80s most just wanted to thrash or rally them.
its no wonder that a bufty special is worth less than a restomod
As far as I’m concerned, as long as holes haven’t been cut where they shouldn’t be etc, I’d buy on the condition of everything.
My RS2000 is modified, but apart from a slight tweak you’d never notice, it could be put back to standard.
500swk said:
vpr said:
Correct
The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
the ford world has a sad minority of mentally ill people that huddle in car shows comparing the originality of their nuts.The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
early 80s most just wanted to thrash or rally them.
its no wonder that a bufty special is worth less than a restomod
Likewise, when by the early 90's, Sierra Cossie's and Escort RST's were 5 years old etc., pretty much all were chipped and buthered and barried up to their gutter strips, and now likewise, original, unmolested and un-modded ones are the sought after big money cars.
Its not just Fords either, you can see the same trend in Integrale's and stuff like that as well.
The same thing happened in the USA with the 60's era muscle cars, everyone in the 70's bought them as cheap performance to go drag racing or street racing with, and they got all sorts of mods and stripped out, and now, those that are left have been restored back to stock, as that's where the value is.
Its the very nature of most homologation specials that were abused in their mid life by most of us, when they were more disposible
Legacywr said:
500swk said:
vpr said:
Correct
The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
the ford world has a sad minority of mentally ill people that huddle in car shows comparing the originality of their nuts.The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
early 80s most just wanted to thrash or rally them.
its no wonder that a bufty special is worth less than a restomod
As far as I’m concerned, as long as holes haven’t been cut where they shouldn’t be etc, I’d buy on the condition of everything.
My RS2000 is modified, but apart from a slight tweak you’d never notice, it could be put back to standard.
Nought wrong with mods but prive needs to reflect this.
Stuff like headrest being wrong, dubious out of year interior and chassis plate stuff is a nod towards it not being correct in more important areas to my mind.
I’m just coming to the end of a ridiculously expensive and detailed resto of my RS2 but it’s also not as it left the factory in terms of exhaust and engine mods, LSD.
I’m never selling so want it as I like it.
aeropilot said:
500swk said:
vpr said:
Correct
The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
the ford world has a sad minority of mentally ill people that huddle in car shows comparing the originality of their nuts.The Ford RS works is full of bobble hats.
No idea why really but for too money they have to be as factory down to every Correct nut and bolt.
Strangely you can restore an Etype or an Aston for example, fit it full of upgrades and even change the colour yet it has no detrimental affect on value. Plus values are in a different world to Escorts
early 80s most just wanted to thrash or rally them.
its no wonder that a bufty special is worth less than a restomod
Its the very nature of most homologation specials that were abused in their mid life by most of us, when they were more disposible
State side they’re positively anal about this stuff.
Me? Not so bothered so long as it looks like it should and is useable
Even back in the late 80’s when I had my rs2000 the first thing you’d want to do is add 5 speed box and find some more bhp - putting extra value on being totally stock as left the factory is a bit daft as the upgrades make them a lot more useable - especially now they are at least 45 years old!
rallycross said:
Even back in the late 80’s when I had my rs2000 the first thing you’d want to do is add 5 speed box and find some more bhp - putting extra value on being totally stock as left the factory is a bit daft as the upgrades make them a lot more useable - especially now they are at least 45 years old!
But the high end, high value cars are not used.... 
aeropilot said:
rallycross said:
Even back in the late 80’s when I had my rs2000 the first thing you’d want to do is add 5 speed box and find some more bhp - putting extra value on being totally stock as left the factory is a bit daft as the upgrades make them a lot more useable - especially now they are at least 45 years old!
But the high end, high value cars are not used.... I can't imagine a few period modifications and improvements would affect the price to most of us. I'd much rather have a tuned engine with a bit of poke, maybe even a few stainless fasteners to keep things shiny. And I'd take a decent black interior over brown, even if it's not the correct year so long as it's done properly.
Interesting comment from the last owner of this beige RS copied from FB here is what he said
It was mine it came to making the decision spend 15k on it to get it up to scratch(2 wings respray vinyl roof redone )or sell so I decided to sell it
If I had done it it would have stood me at 45k
To Much sold I sold it and got the money to look for a better one
Who ever buys it be prepared to spend money!!!
It was mine it came to making the decision spend 15k on it to get it up to scratch(2 wings respray vinyl roof redone )or sell so I decided to sell it
If I had done it it would have stood me at 45k
To Much sold I sold it and got the money to look for a better one
Who ever buys it be prepared to spend money!!!
rallycross said:
Interesting comment from the last owner of this beige RS copied from FB here is what he said
It was mine it came to making the decision spend 15k on it to get it up to scratch(2 wings respray vinyl roof redone )or sell so I decided to sell it
If I had done it it would have stood me at 45k
To Much sold I sold it and got the money to look for a better one
Who ever buys it be prepared to spend money!!!
It was mine it came to making the decision spend 15k on it to get it up to scratch(2 wings respray vinyl roof redone )or sell so I decided to sell it
If I had done it it would have stood me at 45k
To Much sold I sold it and got the money to look for a better one
Who ever buys it be prepared to spend money!!!
That’s quite a bill for 2 wings and blend unless he was doing whole car at same time
I presume other stuff was on his mind
vpr said:
MarkwG said:
vpr said:
Looks nice but a strong estimate given there’s so much not right
What is it that offends you?But I’m not offended by upgrades so much as this being Feb 1980 registered in shouldn’t have black interior, or the chassis tag positioned on the slam panel (unless it was a 79MY hanging around for an awfully long time) plus it has Capri headrests.
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