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boolay
1,385 posts
107 months
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Trophybloo said: As the first to make the criticism on this thread I'm honour-bound not to avoid the flack when charges of narrow-mindedness are being levied. I take it you used a papoose and not a buggy then? Clearly a 14 month old is either not, or barely, perambulatory. No doubt you live far from the Gramps capable of doing a days minding. Were all the nappy changing facilities provided adequate or did you have to resort to the layette on the ground next to someone's picnic (i.e mine!). Since your justification was you not being able to go otherwise, was the ear protection you provided for your nipper adequately fitted and worn for all potential exposure? Finally (sniff of a business opportunity) how much would you have been prepared to pay a creche situated in deepest West Sussex to do a full days minding? My little one is not so little and would proabably find a day in a papoose rather constraining, thereore a buggy was indeed employed for this daily outing. Appologies if you were obstructed by a buggy at any point during your visit, I can understand how annoying this obstacle would have been for you. Your speculation regarding family able to babysit is almost on the nail. One gramps too far away, the other one dead. To be honest, the baby changing facilities were poor. Only one we could find near to the F1 paddock. I did however have to resort to nature and change once on the grass. Not next to your picnic I am glad to say, but next the the First Aid station between the parked up ambulance and the solid metal fence (All angles of view covered there I think). Thank you for your kindest concerns regarding my son's tympanum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27502736@N05/75002146...I think you will agree he looks rather cute. As for a creche, I find spending the most possible time with my son a better form of fatherhood than leaving him with a stranger at the nearest opportunity. See you next year!
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Trophybloo
642 posts
56 months
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boolay said: My little one is not so little and would proabably find a day in a papoose rather constraining, thereore a buggy was indeed employed for this daily outing. Appologies if you were obstructed by a buggy at any point during your visit, I can understand how annoying this obstacle would have been for you. Your speculation regarding family able to babysit is almost on the nail. One gramps too far away, the other one dead. To be honest, the baby changing facilities were poor. Only one we could find near to the F1 paddock. I did however have to resort to nature and change once on the grass. Not next to your picnic I am glad to say, but next the the First Aid station between the parked up ambulance and the solid metal fence (All angles of view covered there I think). Thank you for your kindest concerns regarding my son's tympanum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/27502736@N05/75002146...I think you will agree he looks rather cute. As for a creche, I find spending the most possible time with my son a better form of fatherhood than leaving him with a stranger at the nearest opportunity. See you next year! Respect - just wish everyone was as responsible as you, then grumpy old men like me would have no quibble.
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boolay
1,385 posts
107 months
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Trophybloo said: Respect - just wish everyone was as responsible as you, then grumpy old men like me would have no quibble. I fully agree with you, and this was the basis of my original post to VictorMeldrew (apt name) regarding banning the irresponsible parents rather than 'kids and buggys' Anyway, long may we enjoy this fantastic event
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lee st
4,370 posts
34 months
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Banning kids and buggies is easy to implement. How would you suggest you ban poor parenting from the event?
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boolay
1,385 posts
107 months
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It wasn't meant literally! It was highlighting the source of the problem.
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lee st
4,370 posts
34 months
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Ah right! I imagine it's a thing that the fos heirachy ponder every year.
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Trophybloo
642 posts
56 months
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lee st said: Banning kids and buggies is easy to implement. How would you suggest you ban poor parenting from the event? Cattle prods, tazers, forcible ejection by roving bands of 'kiddy officers' I particularly like the sentiment I saw on a t-shirt at Brands once: "Any children not under direct parental control will be rounded up and sold as slaves"
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Gwagon111
3,341 posts
30 months
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For the first time in I don't know how many years, I only attended on the Sunday this year. Did anyone else think it was a shame that the biggest 'draws' to the show, for the uninitiated didn't attend on the Sunday. I know Goodwood has to bow to the drivers / names diaries, but to have no Prost, Button, Hamilton, or Vettel on the Sunday (the most expensive day) was a bit un-Goodwood like.
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lee st
4,370 posts
34 months
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Gwagon111 said: For the first time in I don't know how many years, I only attended on the Sunday this year. Did anyone else think it was a shame that the biggest 'draws' to the show, for the uninitiated didn't attend on the Sunday. I know Goodwood has to bow to the drivers / names diaries, but to have no Prost, Button, Hamilton, or Vettel on the Sunday (the most expensive day) was a bit un-Goodwood like. Hamilton was supposed to be there Sunday but it was his mrs birthday and we all know what happens when the mrs kicks off and wants something 
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Guyr
1,887 posts
151 months
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Gwagon111 said: but to have no Prost, Button, Hamilton, or Vettel on the Sunday (the most expensive day) was a bit un-Goodwood like. Personally the top celebrity drivers bit is the aspect that has always appealed least to me. It's nice to have good drivers there and it's cool to glance up and see famous faces, but I'm not interested in autographs or fighting big crowds to get within a few feet of them. They are also often the slowest drivers as they're too valuable to risk. It's the true older heroes that most don't recognise that are far more interesting to see, such as one year standing next to a Cobra and realising that the guy getting in was Carrol Shelby etc That's why I went on Friday, saw all the same attractions, cars etc, with far less people there, no crowding at all and hardly any kids (mine stayed at school).
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Gregor Marshall
920 posts
97 months
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Gwagon111 said: Did anyone else think it was a shame that the biggest 'draws' to the show, for the uninitiated didn't attend on the Sunday. I know Goodwood has to bow to the drivers / names diaries, but to have no Prost, Button, Hamilton, or Vettel on the Sunday (the most expensive day) was a bit un-Goodwood like. Well I got to do both runs on the Sunday so I was happy!! 
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Gwagon111
3,341 posts
30 months
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Gregor Marshall said: Well I got to do both runs on the Sunday so I was happy!!  You had a 'moment' with Bertha if I recall correctly  fair play to you, it was fantastic to see Gerry's old steeds getting their legs stretched.
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Gregor Marshall
920 posts
97 months
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I was in Old Nail (Piers Ward of Top Gear magazine was in Baby Bertha) and yes, Sunday morning I f'd up due to lack of experience of driving a very highly-strung car I'd not driven before, a pretty tricky damp track I'd only driven once the day before, being on cold and hard slicks and a weight of expectation, but, BUT, completely my fault for not managing the whole situation better, doh!! I could've easily walked away from motor racing that morning but I needed to make sure I enjoyed the weekend and driving Old Nail and I was very pleased to go over 4 seconds faster in the afternoon and that was without trying and really slowing down for Molcombe after Rod Millen had gone off.
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Gwagon111
3,341 posts
30 months
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Gregor Marshall said: I was in Old Nail (Piers Ward of Top Gear magazine was in Baby Bertha) and yes, Sunday morning I f'd up due to lack of experience of driving a very highly-strung car I'd not driven before, a pretty tricky damp track I'd only driven once the day before, being on cold and hard slicks and a weight of expectation, but, BUT, completely my fault for not managing the whole situation better, doh!! I could've easily walked away from motor racing that morning but I needed to make sure I enjoyed the weekend and driving Old Nail and I was very pleased to go over 4 seconds faster in the afternoon and that was without trying and really slowing down for Molcombe after Rod Millen had gone off. Sorry, I get confused some times. It was a cracking effort to cane it having seen Rod go 'off'. We got to see the onboard shots of Rod's run, he didn't lift even when the s  t had well and truly hit the fan  .
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VictorMeldrew
8,264 posts
146 months
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boolay said: I fully agree with you, and this was the basis of my original post to VictorMeldrew (apt name) regarding banning the irresponsible parents rather than 'kids and buggys'
Anyway, long may we enjoy this fantastic event Yes, it is apt, shame you don't get it. I'd add a smiley but that would be out of character.
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GBB
1,645 posts
28 months
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Gregor Marshall said: I was in Old Nail (Piers Ward of Top Gear magazine was in Baby Bertha) and yes, Sunday morning I f'd up due to lack of experience of driving a very highly-strung car I'd not driven before, a pretty tricky damp track I'd only driven once the day before, being on cold and hard slicks and a weight of expectation, but, BUT, completely my fault for not managing the whole situation better, doh!! I could've easily walked away from motor racing that morning but I needed to make sure I enjoyed the weekend and driving Old Nail and I was very pleased to go over 4 seconds faster in the afternoon and that was without trying and really slowing down for Molcombe after Rod Millen had gone off. Saw Old Nail and Baby Bertha and wondered if you'd be driving one!
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300KPH
167 posts
47 months
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I often wonder with the likes of Prost not attending the final day after coming from France or where ever he lives, where was so important to be on Sunday or maybe he is just sick of events after a life of motorsport.
Or with the current drivers, some get air lifted out of the event almost immediately after getting out of the car. Ok its the weekend and they want their own personal lives, or maybe they just really have to get home to cut the grass?
I probably just think differently due to not being exposed to motorsport every day of the year like some of these guys.
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Jagmanv12
481 posts
33 months
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Noticed a mistake in the programme where they write it was the UK debut of the Ferrari 458 Spider. Obviously the writer doesn't get out much as the 458 has been at a few events since April.
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Zed 44
Original Poster
256 posts
25 months
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As the person who initiated this thread all those months ago, I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed my first experience at Goodwood and will definitely be going again.
Two things I would do differently:
1. Just go on 2 days, probably the Friday and Saturday, although Thursday was best for photographing the cars in the paddocks.
2. Buy a grandstand ticket.
Full praise to the organisers who did a wonderful job and the staff who kept the place so neat and tidy during all 4 days.
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CivicMan
2,206 posts
70 months
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Zed 44 said: 1. Just go on 2 days, probably the Friday and Saturday, although Thursday was best for photographing the cars in the paddocks.
2. Buy a grandstand ticket. This is not wrong.
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