Have you bought one of those great looking Rolex/Omega fakes
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popeyewhite said:
Gustavo7 said:
I can attest to that. Both my copies are the highest grade you can get, even the movements are a 1:1 copy and can be repaired using original parts.
No, they can't. Firstly only a Rolex dealer would have OE parts and secondly a Rolex dealer wouldn't touch a fake Rolex.Begs the question: If you're that proud of a fake, why not just buy the real thing?
Go and spend some time on the replica forums such as RWI. You will see people taking superclone fakes and then a rebuilding them with a bunch of genuine Rolex parts.
You will often see 'frankenstein' watches for sale, or sometimes called 'super franken' if they contain a lot of Rolex parts.
The fakes are so well made that Rolex bezels, hands, dials, crowns, bracelets, crystal, and internal parts are a straight swap right into them or onto them without issue or alteration.
The people on those forums do it because they absolutely love building watches to perfection. It is a hobby. They post up the macro photos for other members to comment on and see if they can spot any flaws against a genuine one, and so on.
As mentioned in my first post on this topic, I bought my 2 replicas on trips to Thailand with the family. Why? Because I wanted to, I like how the watches look and use them as a fashion accessory. Resale value is of no concern to me, I don’t intend on selling them, they are worth more to me as a reminder of the great 5-digit holidays I had in Asia
Could I have stayed at home and bought the genuine articles? Yes, but I didn’t want to and it wouldn’t have been as fun, sorry.
Could I have stayed at home and bought the genuine articles? Yes, but I didn’t want to and it wouldn’t have been as fun, sorry.
Gustavo7 said:
As mentioned in my first post on this topic, I bought my 2 replicas on trips to Thailand with the family. Why? Because I wanted to, I like how the watches look and use them as a fashion accessory.
Congrats, you've illegally imported two fakes based on high end watches. Gustavo7 said:
Resale value is of no concern to me
Just as well lol.Popeyewhite, you managed to completely ignore what I was saying.
I was specifically referring this this:
You claimed that fakes cannot be repaired with Rolex parts, and you suggest that OE Rolex parts aren't available to anyone outside of Rolex, as per the bold.
Both of those claims are absolute nonsense.
Also, who said anything about a dealer touching or repairing a fake Rolex? There are countless watchmakers out there who happily work on fakes.
Additionally, just so you know, that the super fakes hold their value well, as I said earlier in the thread.
If you have one 'in hand' in the country it is worth most of what you paid for it, and sometimes more, as the person buying it doesn't have to worry about it getting posted to them from an unknown website/factory in China. It is more attractive if it is local and available.
If you paid £350 for a top quality fake, you could own it for years and easily get your £350 back.
Obviously a fake won't appreciate like a Rolex. But neither will many watches on the planet.
I was specifically referring this this:
popeyewhite said:
Gustavo7 said:
I can attest to that. Both my copies are the highest grade you can get, even the movements are a 1:1 copy and can be repaired using original parts.
No, they can't. Firstly only a Rolex dealer would have OE parts and secondly a Rolex dealer wouldn't touch a fake Rolex.Both of those claims are absolute nonsense.
Also, who said anything about a dealer touching or repairing a fake Rolex? There are countless watchmakers out there who happily work on fakes.
popeyewhite said:
Gustavo7 said:
Resale value is of no concern to me
Just as well lol.If you have one 'in hand' in the country it is worth most of what you paid for it, and sometimes more, as the person buying it doesn't have to worry about it getting posted to them from an unknown website/factory in China. It is more attractive if it is local and available.
If you paid £350 for a top quality fake, you could own it for years and easily get your £350 back.
Obviously a fake won't appreciate like a Rolex. But neither will many watches on the planet.
Edited by Goldman Sachs on Monday 22 April 15:49
popeyewhite said:
I just meant by shortcut any path a person takes to put a watch on their wrist that's illegal.
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Do you mean the 'path' is illegal or the watch is illegal?...
Owning a replica/copy/fake watch is not illegal in the UK AFAIK.
It's also highly unlikely that there would be issues with returning from Turkey (or wherever) with one or more of said watches - customs is more concerned with 'big players' than randoms buying a couple of dodgy watches/handbags/sunglasses.
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Monday 22 April 16:24
Goldman Sachs said:
Popeyewhite, you managed to completely ignore what I was saying.
I was specifically referring this this:
You claimed that fakes cannot be repaired with Rolex parts, and you suggest that OE Rolex parts aren't available to anyone outside of Rolex, as per the bold.
Both of those claims are absolute nonsense.
Also, who said anything about a dealer touching or repairing a fake Rolex? There are countless watchmakers out there who happily work on fakes.
Additionally, just so you know, that the super fakes hold their value well, as I said earlier in the thread.
If you have one 'in hand' in the country it is worth most of what you paid for it, and sometimes more, as the person buying it doesn't have to worry about it getting posted to them from an unknown website/factory in China. It is more attractive if it is local and available.
If you paid £350 for a top quality fake, you could own it for years and easily get your £350 back.
Obviously a fake won't appreciate like a Rolex. But neither will many watches on the planet.
The depressing element of this post is it completely ignores any illegality or even moral responsibility. Rolex et al, similar to the manufacturers of many things have worked hard to produce the end product and copyrighted it for a reason - to protect themselves from dishonest people who seek to pass off copies as the real article.I was specifically referring this this:
popeyewhite said:
Gustavo7 said:
I can attest to that. Both my copies are the highest grade you can get, even the movements are a 1:1 copy and can be repaired using original parts.
No, they can't. Firstly only a Rolex dealer would have OE parts and secondly a Rolex dealer wouldn't touch a fake Rolex.Both of those claims are absolute nonsense.
Also, who said anything about a dealer touching or repairing a fake Rolex? There are countless watchmakers out there who happily work on fakes.
popeyewhite said:
Gustavo7 said:
Resale value is of no concern to me
Just as well lol.If you have one 'in hand' in the country it is worth most of what you paid for it, and sometimes more, as the person buying it doesn't have to worry about it getting posted to them from an unknown website/factory in China. It is more attractive if it is local and available.
If you paid £350 for a top quality fake, you could own it for years and easily get your £350 back.
Obviously a fake won't appreciate like a Rolex. But neither will many watches on the planet.
Edited by Goldman Sachs on Monday 22 April 15:49
Reverse engineering a Rolex is fakery of another kind. I thought when people made their own watches they went for individual designs more than copying something else?
popeyewhite said:
The depressing element of this post is it completely ignores any illegality or even moral responsibility. Rolex et al, similar to the manufacturers of many things have worked hard to produce the end product and copyrighted it for a reason - to protect themselves from dishonest people who seek to pass off copies as the real article.
It seems to be only you who finds it depressing. No one else seems to worry. You keep going on and on about the legal and moral aspects like some form of puritan. I cannot work out why you are so bothered. How does it affect you?To put it in perspective, I don't know anyone who hasn't done one of the following things as a child/teenager/adult:
Copied a friends computer game.
Copied a piece of software.
Recorded a film from the TV onto VHS/DVD and then watched it with friends or lent it to friends.
Recorded music off the radio.
Copied/recorded a friends vinyl/tape/CD/DVD
Downloaded an MP3 from the internet without paying.
Used Napster/Limewire.
Downloaded films from the internet without paying.
Watched films or tv programmes on sites like Vimeo.
Shared a software key.
Watched a dodgy DVD copy of a film.
Bought a fake T-shirt or other garment whilst on holiday or elsewhere.
Photocopied something from a magazine or book.
Read a PDF copy of a book on line.
Or any numerous similar crimes. I would be absolutely amazed if you could honestly claim you had never done any of those things or no one in your family has done any of those things. These are all examples of copyright theft, the same as making a fake Rolex.
My view is: I really don't care what other people do with stuff like this. They can copy computer games, buy a fake T shirt off the market in Benidorm and wear a fake Rolex if they want. It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to me.
popeyewhite said:
Reverse engineering a Rolex is fakery of another kind. I thought when people made their own watches they went for individual designs more than copying something else?
It absolutely is another kind of fakery, but again, who cares? Some people do love to make their own watches. Some people love to make the best replica they can of a well known brand, the same as some people try to make the best replica they can of certain cars. Whatever floats your boat.I've lost count of the number of replica AC Cobras or GT40's I have seen, fully badged up per as the originals and with the owners trying to get every last tiny detail correct so that it fools everyone that has a look at it. I suppose you want all those sent to the crusher do you?
Goldman Sachs said:
I've lost count of the number of replica AC Cobras or GT40's I have seen, fully badged up per as the originals and with the owners trying to get every last tiny detail correct so that it fools everyone that has a look at it. I suppose you want all those sent to the crusher do you?
Yes absolutely, they're abhorrent. Should be banned etc etc.. 
Next you'll claim cheap fakes are an 'homage' I imagine.
The 'well lots of people do borderline legal things in life all the time' defence only works if you're under 10 years of age btw.
popeyewhite said:
Goldman Sachs said:
I've lost count of the number of replica AC Cobras or GT40's I have seen, fully badged up per as the originals and with the owners trying to get every last tiny detail correct so that it fools everyone that has a look at it. I suppose you want all those sent to the crusher do you?
Yes absolutely, they're abhorrent. Should be banned etc etc.. Next you'll claim cheap fakes are an 'homage' I imagine.
The 'well lots of people do borderline legal things in life all the time' defence only works if you're under 10 years of age btw.
Zj2002 said:
popeyewhite said:
Goldman Sachs said:
I've lost count of the number of replica AC Cobras or GT40's I have seen, fully badged up per as the originals and with the owners trying to get every last tiny detail correct so that it fools everyone that has a look at it. I suppose you want all those sent to the crusher do you?
Yes absolutely, they're abhorrent. Should be banned etc etc.. Next you'll claim cheap fakes are an 'homage' I imagine.
The 'well lots of people do borderline legal things in life all the time' defence only works if you're under 10 years of age btw.
popeyewhite said:
I'm not really bothered if people buy fakes if I'm completely honest, it's more my angle that people shouldn't try to justify buying a fake because the real thing is too expensive or it's a massive conspiracy or everyone else does it so it's alright etc etc. You buy a fake because it's cheap and looks like the real thing, obvs.
You care enough to sneer at those who buy them? You’re just annoyed because it annoys you that some can wear a ‘fake’ and be happy. The question is why it annoys you? I’d love to know what Rolex you actually own?Ninjin said:
I own a fake sub, a high end super rep. I leave it in my 'bait' box with some other non reps. The non reps are just normal watches Gshocks, Seiko etc.
I hope heaven forbid if I even get broken into, the thief will see the Rolex and think it's pay day and not bother look any further, just take the box of watches and run.
Thing is, there are so many stories of people dying over wearing a fake Rolex, at least get murdered for a real one.
Strange you should say this, I’d love a Rolex but I’m not that rich. I don’t want to play the waiting list game and if I’m going to drop that kind of money on a watch it would have to be brand new. I hope heaven forbid if I even get broken into, the thief will see the Rolex and think it's pay day and not bother look any further, just take the box of watches and run.
Thing is, there are so many stories of people dying over wearing a fake Rolex, at least get murdered for a real one.
In the end I bought a Tudor Pelagos. I believe they are owned by Rolex in some way and whilst not saying they are comparable in any way they are a lovely watch.
The Pelagos costs me roughly £3500 5 years ago. I feel really uncomfortable every now and once saw a group of guys eyeing it up. One then came over and asked me about. Saying he had an interest in watches. I told him it was a cheap fake I picked up from Thailand. He quickly lost interest and disappeared. It felt like I was being scoped out to get robbed.
I arranged an Uber to meet me right out the front of the pub. Waited for it to pull up and literally bolted out the door and straight in the cab when I left.
I very rarely wear it now after that.
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