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Eric Mc
67,846 posts
135 months
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The DC-8 is actually Loftleider - another Icelandic airline. They were regulars into Shannon.
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silverfoxcc
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15 months
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Four more for Sun AM  Taken at Dublin  Gatwick.  Heathrow From roof Gardens T2  These were new once
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Eric Mc
67,846 posts
135 months
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I remember when Gulf Air was set up - using ex BA VC-10s.
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silverfoxcc
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Wedg1e
22,808 posts
135 months
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mph1977 said: what aobut the VC 10 given it was deliberately over engined for 'hot and high' conditions ion 'empire' routes to East and Seth Effrica I was at Brize the other day; the RAF still has a few Tristars and VC-10s but they're all under sentence of death owing to age, condition, lack of spares and :cough: cracks :cough:. One hangar had a Tristar, three Hercules and a C-17: you think the Herc is a big plane until you see a C-17 casting its shadow over one 
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Fat Fairy
99 posts
56 months
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Referring to a Herc as a 'Light Aircraft' didn't usually go down too well however!
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Eric Mc
67,846 posts
135 months
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Seeing a Delta Airlines aircraft at Heathrow back then (1968/69?) would have been very unusual. I presume it was operating a charther or a leased flight of some sort.
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The Boy Lard
408 posts
93 months
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Wow, some amazing pictures here and incredible history.
Amazing too that the 707 formed the basis of the 727 and 737 families, is still in production and the new 737-900 can carry nearly as many passengers as the 707-320....
Aircraft spotting isn't as interesting when all you can do is spot the difference in length between the main manufacturers products...
I guess the regional jets from Embrear and the likes are a little different.
TBL
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silverfoxcc
1,243 posts
15 months
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Mondays four   Dublins Main Terminal Building....Is it still there?  BOAC Cargo branded 707  Jat DC-9
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perdu
3,301 posts
69 months
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Nice as ever I think I'm getting your drift now... Opened the thread, ran down to the first picture Trident then thought bet it's a pocket rocket next bingo!!! They are great pictures, really enjoying them so don't stop now 
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Eric Mc
67,846 posts
135 months
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Dublin's original terminal is most definitely still there. It is now used as an admin building.
That van with the radar dish on the back must be an old GCA van.
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muley
1,401 posts
151 months
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Eric Mc said: I still have my 1972 Ian Allen book  Oh dear, so do I (which strangely makes me feel better) Note to self - must dig out some old snaps and post them here..
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52classic
1,205 posts
80 months
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I spy a Vickers Vanguard and a Handley Page Herald amongst that lot!!! Oh the joy of PHing!
Couldn't see the point of making the vanguard and the Viscount 800 series. Were there any production similarities besides the Darts?
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Eric Mc
67,846 posts
135 months
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The Vanguard had Tynes for a start.
The Vanguard was a lot bigger than the Viscount 800. The 800 series Viscounts sold very well - unlike the Vanguard.
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texaxile
299 posts
20 months
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Hi, I remember flying on the old Gulf Air L1011's to Muscat during the mid 70's. I remember in particular the trip was the airline equivalent of a number 22bus, stopping at Doha, Dubai, Bahrain and Abu Dhabi (in whatever order...) . We would always fly from lhr,and I recal the old flight board being a huge black sign which the letters would flick round each time a flight was boarding or leaving.....
IIRC back then the Sultan of Omans Royal Flight was a VC 10 which he donated to a UK museum, I'm not sure if GF were using VC10's at the same time, don't recall ever going on one but I was only 5 years old back then.
The GF lockheed had a bar in the first and business class sections, and being a small, inquisitive kid was always allowed into the cockpit to have a look around, crewed by 3 with an engineers array to the right. I recall being told not to touch anything at all, ever. Smoking was also allowed on the flights, as soon as the light went out all you could hear was the flicking of lighters.........
Thanks for the pic of the GF, bout back many fond memories.
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52classic
1,205 posts
80 months
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Thanks Eric, but you have to admit that the nacelles look similar.
As for size, I have probably never seen the two side by side. My recollection is that most types turn up with the holiday charter lines once their scheduled service life ends but that never seemed to happen with the Vanguard. Posh BEA livery one minute, gone the next!
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hidetheelephants
5,705 posts
63 months
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Eric Mc said: The Vanguard had Tynes for a start.
The Vanguard was a lot bigger than the Viscount 800. The 800 series Viscounts sold very well - unlike the Vanguard. Never really understood that either; the Guards' van didn't do anything the Britannia didn't do already, except maybe extra fuselage volume and constant diameter. Competition with BS is one thing, but it must have all been at the behest of BEA; was it some weird BEA/BOAC rivalry thing?
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Eric Mc
67,846 posts
135 months
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52classic said: Thanks Eric, but you have to admit that the nacelles look similar.
As for size, I have probably never seen the two side by side. My recollection is that most types turn up with the holiday charter lines once their scheduled service life ends but that never seemed to happen with the Vanguard. Posh BEA livery one minute, gone the next! The Vanguards did indeed have a second life. They were only over orderd by two airlines, Trans Canada (later renamed Air Canada) and BEA (later merged into BA). In the late 60s some BEA Vanguards were remanufactured into a freighter version called the Merchantman (or the Guards Van by BEA staff). Air Canada retired theirs in the late 1960s and many of these ones ended up in France being operated by an airline called Europe Air Serrvices. Some went to a British airline called Invicta. BA retired all the remaianing passenger Vanguards by 1974 but retained the Merchantmen into the early 80s. They then sold the freighters to cargo airlines such as Air Bridge Carriers. They were finally retired in the mid 1990s.
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Eric Mc
67,846 posts
135 months
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hidetheelephants said: Eric Mc said: The Vanguard had Tynes for a start.
The Vanguard was a lot bigger than the Viscount 800. The 800 series Viscounts sold very well - unlike the Vanguard. Never really understood that either; the Guards' van didn't do anything the Britannia didn't do already, except maybe extra fuselage volume and constant diameter. Competition with BS is one thing, but it must have all been at the behest of BEA; was it some weird BEA/BOAC rivalry thing? The Britannia was a much older design, emerging out of a transatlantic airliner requirement set out by the Brabazon Committeee during World War 2. It was very late in getting into service due to massive problems with its engines, the Bristol Proteus. The Vanguard was a private venture by Vickers designed to capitalise on the popularity of the Viscount. The thinking was that with the Viscount selling so well, a BIG Viscount would sell even better. There was nothing wrong with the Vanguard - except for the fact that it emerged in a world where every airline felt it needed to be operating pure jets. It was never going to be able to compete with aircraft like the Caravelle, 727, DC-9 and BAC 1-11.
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silverfoxcc
1,243 posts
15 months
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The museum at Brooklands is well worth a visit Off the top of my head The Oman VC-10 Viscount Vanguard (which they fire up now and again) Viking BAC-111 CONCORDE!!!!
ALL Open to visit
London Bus Museum Superb Brooklands museum of cars and bikes And Mercedes World Pay and Drive round a tst track/skid pan etc
More pics tomorrow
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