Ultima rim dimensions

Ultima rim dimensions

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spatz

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1,783 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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hopefully someone has bookmarked the link, I have been running over rim dimensions in this forum but cannot find them anymore ?
I found that the Ford Granada will fit but I would need actually the complete dimensions including offsets
for front and back rims. I assume that GTR and CANAM are using the same rims ?

thanks

JoulesCanAm

328 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Same rims CanAm or GTR.

I just picked up a spare set of the Oz factory wheels to mount slicks on for track days. Prior to any tire mounting I intend to spend a little time to record all the critical dimensions as this question seems to pop up with regularity and I have not found the answer posted anywhere.

spatz

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1,783 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Yep seems that too many are involved in the "rims for ultima" business....anyway hopefully someone will read the post and can answer.
I know a guy here in germany that is manufacturing rims "www.felge.de" and i intend to use one of his models.

JoulesCanAm

328 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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I would be surprised if a Ford rim fits, the Ultima lug spacing is 5 on 112mm, Ford is 5 on 4.5", it's cose but no close enough.

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Hope this isn't off topic but a few of my wheel nuts are rusty, any idea on what type I'm looking for to replace them?

Steve_D

13,751 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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robm3 said:
Hope this isn't off topic but a few of my wheel nuts are rusty, any idea on what type I'm looking for to replace them?
Join the gang, I'm on my third set.

Steve

Steve_D

13,751 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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JoulesCanAm said:
I would be surprised if a Ford rim fits, the Ultima lug spacing is 5 on 112mm, Ford is 5 on 4.5", it's cose but no close enough.
The hubs are from a Ford Granada so a Ford stud spacing will fit.
The rim size to fit over the Ultima disc and caliper is a different matter.

Steve

JoulesCanAm

328 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Steve_D said:
The hubs are from a Ford Granada so a Ford stud spacing will fit. The rim size to fit over the Ultima disc and caliper is a different matter.

Steve
Then I stand corrected, there is so little information on the wheels. They are 5 on 112mm pcd, correct?

Steve_D

13,751 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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JoulesCanAm said:
Steve_D said:
The hubs are from a Ford Granada so a Ford stud spacing will fit. The rim size to fit over the Ultima disc and caliper is a different matter.

Steve
Then I stand corrected, there is so little information on the wheels. They are 5 on 112mm pcd, correct?
Can't confirm the dimension just know they are Granada.

Steve

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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Steve_D said:
robm3 said:
Hope this isn't off topic but a few of my wheel nuts are rusty, any idea on what type I'm looking for to replace them?
Join the gang, I'm on my third set.

Steve
Steve,
Where did you get your replacement ones from and what did you ask for (assume they are Ford Granada ones?) also wondering as I was going to get some locking nuts too.
Thanks,
Robin.

Steve_D

13,751 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th January 2009
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robm3 said:
Steve_D said:
robm3 said:
Hope this isn't off topic but a few of my wheel nuts are rusty, any idea on what type I'm looking for to replace them?
Join the gang, I'm on my third set.

Steve
Steve,
Where did you get your replacement ones from and what did you ask for (assume they are Ford Granada ones?) also wondering as I was going to get some locking nuts too.
Thanks,
Robin.
They are factory ones.
They are special to fit the factory rims (unless someone knows otherwise)

Would like to go stainless but, again, others have looked into this with a company who displays at the shows but again they were going to be specials and at a 'Special' price.

Steve

JoulesCanAm

328 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th January 2009
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Okay I did some measuring and here's some basic dimensions that can be used to assess whether an aftermarket or alternative wheel might fit your Ultima.

Common Dimensions front/rear;

Bolt Spacing PCD; 5x112mm (Ford Granada, Some Audi, Mercedes and VW but bolt spacing is only a small piece of the puzzle)
Stud hole diameter; 0.75 inch
Center bore diameter; 2.5 inch
Center bore chamfer; 45º
Center bore chamfer width 0.05 inch
Wheel to hub mating flange diameter; 6.375 inch

Rear Rim specific;

Rim width; 13 inch
Backspace to inner flange; 8.25 inch
Backspace to outer rim edge; 8.75 inch
Offset; 3.25 inch
Center hub mating face to wheel spoke depth (Caliper clearance); 0.9 inch

Front Rim Specific;

Rim Width; 8.5 inch
Backspace to inner flange; 4.75 inch
Backspace to outer rim edge; 5.25 inch
Offset; 1 inch
Center mating face to wheel spoke depth (Caliper clearance); 0.45 inch

If you are not familiar with wheel specifications and dimensions do a Google search and you'll get diagrams of what each dimension refers to. US wheel manufacturers for the most part refer to 'backspacing' as measurement to inner flange (lip of tire bead seat), although some use to outer rim edge as it is easier to determine accurately. Verify with your wheel supplier exactly what they refer to as 'backspacing'.

The legal stuff; Information in this post is provided for information only, it is up to you to do your due diligence as to correct fitment of any alternative rims. I will not be held responsible for any inaccuracies, non fitment issues, or accidental death/dismemberment arising from use of this data.

spatz

Original Poster:

1,783 posts

187 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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thanks that is of great help !!!

qwick

530 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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JoulesCanAm said:
The legal stuff; Information in this post is provided for information only, it is up to you to do your due diligence as to correct fitment of any alternative rims. I will not be held responsible for any inaccuracies, non fitment issues, or accidental death/dismemberment arising from use of this data.
Crikey! What a world we live in!

Edited by qwick on Wednesday 21st January 17:31

JoulesCanAm

328 posts

187 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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qwick said:
JoulesCanAm said:
The legal stuff; Information in this post is provided for information only, it is up to you to do your due diligence as to correct fitment of any alternative rims. I will not be held responsible for any inaccuracies, non fitment issues, or accidental death/dismemberment arising from use of this data.
Crikey! What a world we live in!

Edited by qwick on Wednesday 21st January 17:31
That was kinda tongue in cheek stuff, but nonetheless is a reflection of the World in which we live, especially the left side of the Atlantic. See it here all the time, no one wants to take responsibility for their own actions anymore, heck even the Lawyers have TV commercials telling you it's not your fault...sue the SOB's

crafty

2,291 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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Stig - this one should be sticky

spatz

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1,783 posts

187 months

Friday 20th March 2009
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here some pics from a measurement taken by Michael from Germany, in addition I have decided to send the Hubs with the discs installed to my rim supplier and he will be able to perfectly fit them. I will have a drawing of that available later and post it here.




I can now confirm that these measurements are right. The wheels fittet without any problems to the car. Chech my website for pictures.

Edited by spatz on Wednesday 2nd December 11:38

ezakimak

1,871 posts

237 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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[quote=spatz]

Spatz, what does the "VA" and "HA" meen ?

Regards Ryan

ultimichael

194 posts

256 months

Thursday 23rd July 2009
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This sketch was made by me some years ago for my brake supplier.
Dimensions are from the Ultima rims.

VA = Vorderachse, front axle
HA = Hinterachse, rear axle

Michael

ezakimak

1,871 posts

237 months

Thursday 23rd July 2009
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Danke Michael

kind regards
Ryan