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Jimbeaux
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s2art
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looking bad for the pilot and navigator of one of the planes.
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Jimbeaux
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s2art said: looking bad for the pilot and navigator of one of the planes. Their low flying nature makes parachute activity less of a choice I suppose. I hope all turns out well.
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mrmr96
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Repost. Earlier thread is in "boats and trains etc"
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s2art
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Jimbeaux said: Their low flying nature makes parachute activity less of a choice I suppose. I hope all turns out well. Looks like a mid air collision. As there is, as yet, no signs of the second plane, no debris etc its quite possible that it underwent a catastrophic failure. Probably parachutes wouldnt have helped.
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rah1888
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STV News on Twitter said: A spokesman added: "The Buckie lifeboat has reported that a helicopter picked up two people. There condition is currently unknown and they are being transferred to Raigmore Hospital in Inverness.
"We think there were four people between the two aircraft."
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Jimbeaux
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mrmr96 said: Repost. Earlier thread is in "boats and trains etc" Sorry, it was on the news services headlines, so I chose "news" as it involved missing pilots and not just a story about cool planes. 
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DieselGriff
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s2art said: Jimbeaux said: Their low flying nature makes parachute activity less of a choice I suppose. I hope all turns out well. Looks like a mid air collision. As there is, as yet, no signs of the second plane, no debris etc its quite possible that it underwent a catastrophic failure. Probably parachutes wouldnt have helped. Sad news, hope all is well, fingers crossed. The actual act of parachuting would not have been an issue as they are fitted with zero-zero ejection seats, some will give enough height for the parachute to deploy even if fired underwater. In this case it was how much time did they have between realising something had gone badly wrong and pulling the cord, hopefully enough. I don't want to seem pedantic in such a thread (I don't know enough to) just want to help clarify.
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mrmr96
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Jimbeaux said: mrmr96 said: Repost. Earlier thread is in "boats and trains etc" Sorry, it was on the news services headlines, so I chose "news" as it involved missing pilots and not just a story about cool planes. I agree, news seems like the right place for it.
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Dixie68
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What they need is a dedicated SAR aircraft fitted out with equipment to search for downed aircraft, maybe a Nimrod based at the nearby flying station RAF Kinloss. Oh, hold on... they did but were scrapped as surplus to requirements.
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Jimbeaux
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DieselGriff said: s2art said: Jimbeaux said: Their low flying nature makes parachute activity less of a choice I suppose. I hope all turns out well. Looks like a mid air collision. As there is, as yet, no signs of the second plane, no debris etc its quite possible that it underwent a catastrophic failure. Probably parachutes wouldnt have helped. Sad news, hope all is well, fingers crossed. The actual act of parachuting would not have been an issue as they are fitted with zero-zero ejection seats, some will give enough height for the parachute to deploy even if fired underwater. In this case it was how much time did they have between realising something had gone badly wrong and pulling the cord, hopefully enough. I don't want to seem pedantic in such a thread (I don't know enough to) just want to help clarify. Good info and thanks.
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Jimbeaux
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mrmr96 said: Jimbeaux said: mrmr96 said: Repost. Earlier thread is in "boats and trains etc" Sorry, it was on the news services headlines, so I chose "news" as it involved missing pilots and not just a story about cool planes. I agree, news seems like the right place for it. What do I know, I just don't work here.
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Eric Mc
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The trouble with "news" is that it covers all sorts of topics.
When a spots star makes news dose that go in Sports or Football?
When a singer makes news does that go in Music?
When an aircraft crashes, does that go in Planes, Trains etc?
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mybrainhurts
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TTmonkey
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Eric Mc said: The trouble with "news" is that it covers all sorts of topics.
When a spots star makes news dose that go in Sports or Football?
When a singer makes news does that go in Music?
When an aircraft crashes, does that go in Planes, Trains etc? Its not about airplanes, its about real life human beings fighting for their lives and people desperatly trying to rescue them. Its news.
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Ayahuasca
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TTmonkey said: Eric Mc said: The trouble with "news" is that it covers all sorts of topics.
When a spots star makes news dose that go in Sports or Football?
When a singer makes news does that go in Music?
When an aircraft crashes, does that go in Planes, Trains etc? Its not about airplanes, its about real life human beings fighting for their lives and people desperatly trying to rescue them. Its news. Hoping for the best - will be tough for the partners, families and friends involved.
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TTmonkey
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Tragic news, three dead and one seriously injured....
Looks like they know that no one ejected from the second aircraft, I guess there would be beacons if they had.
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Dixie68
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TTmonkey said: Tragic news, three dead and one seriously injured....
Looks like they know that no one ejected from the second aircraft, I guess there would be beacons if they had. I don't know if they still do but there used to be a transponder onboard that was activated if it was submerged in water. I used to have to test the batteries for them during servicing.
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Mojocvh
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131 months
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TTmonkey said: Tragic news, three dead and one seriously injured....
Looks like they know that no one ejected from the second aircraft, I guess there would be beacons if they had. In non-operational situations, as the ejection seat goes up the rail, there is a microswitch derived radio [simplistic] "squawk" given out until the aircraft disintegrates, they'd know pretty quickly what was what... plb's [personal location beacons] used to go off automatically but I don't remember the exact parameters or know whether they still are enabled to do so, it used to be a [irregular] problem when the crews initially walked, from memory. no squawk/plb's...make what you want of that...
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Mojocvh
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Dixie68 said: TTmonkey said: Tragic news, three dead and one seriously injured....
Looks like they know that no one ejected from the second aircraft, I guess there would be beacons if they had. I don't know if they still do but there used to be a transponder onboard that was activated if it was submerged in water. I used to have to test the batteries for them during servicing. [slb] sonar location beacon mate, attached to the adr by a big wire and clamp as a mod/production installation instigated some what, 15-20 years ago....Germans went one better but that's another story.
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