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Art0ir
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JBL930 said: Ok, now that's a very interesting website, there is a LOT to get through, but it certainly says there is reason to open another inquiry..... Reports from people who were there mentioning the huge explosions in the basement, walls being blown out etc.... Then some very senior pilots, respected architects etc.... Thousands of people saying 'something is up'. I haven't bought a tinfoil hat, but I'm intrigued Again, intrigue is healthy. Just don't get caught up in all of it at once or soon you'll be posting links to Youtube videos trying to convince us the Moon is hollow and serves as a base of operations for aliens.
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JBL930
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Art0ir said: JBL930 said: Ok, now that's a very interesting website, there is a LOT to get through, but it certainly says there is reason to open another inquiry..... Reports from people who were there mentioning the huge explosions in the basement, walls being blown out etc.... Then some very senior pilots, respected architects etc.... Thousands of people saying 'something is up'. I haven't bought a tinfoil hat, but I'm intrigued Again, intrigue is healthy. Just don't get caught up in all of it at once or soon you'll be posting links to Youtube videos trying to convince us the Moon is hollow and serves as a base of operations for aliens. Ha ha, I hear what you are saying..... There are some unanswered questions though, you have to admit that? People in the building talking about multiple explosions, why would there be huge explosions in the basement? Did the terrorists plant bombs in the basement too? Plausible explanation I suppose! That and the architects saying that the way that building 7 came down was text book demolition...... I don't know, it would be a f  king horror to believe that the American government could slaughter so many people just to get the ok to go to war, and pass questionable policy's, and even wipe off large amounts of debt...... It seems too ugly to be true! And there would need to be hundreds of people involved to carry it out....... Still interested in hearing Loons evidence, whenever you're ready.....
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Art0ir
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I personally find the pilot testimonies the most interesting, especially considering they all come from very experienced pilots with 10's of thousands of hours flight time each.. Pilot said: In August 2006, Pilots for 9/11 Truth received from the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) a copy of the Flight Data Recorder data of Flight 77, which, according to the official account, hit the Pentagon.
We analyzed the data and announced our conclusion on 3/26/07 that "The information provided by the NTSB does not support the 9/11 Commission Report of American Airlines Flight 77 impact with the Pentagon."
- The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support official events. - All Altitude data shows the aircraft at least 300 feet too high to have struck the light poles. - The rate of descent data is in direct conflict with the aircraft being able to impact the light poles and be captured in the Dept of Defense "5 Frames" video of an object traveling nearly parallel with the Pentagon lawn. - The record of data stops at least one second prior to official impact time. - If data trends are continued, the aircraft altitude would have been at least 100 feet too high to have hit the Pentagon. Pilot said: Regarding the Flight Data Recorder information for Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, released by the NTSB
John Lear: There's a lot things in that tape that came up, that if you're a pilot, you say, "Hey, wait a minute. That's bull****. That could never happen in a million years." ...
Rob Balsamo: What did you think about 9/11 after you saw it?
John Lear: Well, you know, five minutes after it happened, I knew that it was a scam. ... No Boeing 757 ever crashed into the Pentagon. No Boeing 757 ever crashed at Shanksville. ... And no Arab hijacker, ever in a million years, ever flew into the World Trade Center. And if you got 30 minutes I'll tell you exactly why he couldn't do it the first time. Now, I'd have trouble doing it the first time.
Rob Balsamo: Yeah, same here.
John Lear: Maybe if I had a couple tries to line up a few building, I could have done it. But certainly not the first time and certainly not at 500 or 600 miles an hour.
Rob Balsamo: Yeah, as a matter of fact, one of our members, he was a 737 Check Airman. He was in the sim at the time on September 11 and right after it happened they tried to duplicate it in the simulator and they said they couldn't do it. They were trying to hit the Towers and they couldn't do it. ...
John Lear: Yeah, it would be an amazing feat of airmanship. ... Pilot said: "I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's. And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it." Pilot said: there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."…
"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying." Pilot said: At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of flying. I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757’s and 767’s and could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.
I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School and have experience flying low altitude, high speed aircraft. I could not have done what these beginners did. Something stinks to high heaven! Pilot]The issues of the penetration hole [at the Pentagon said: and the lack of large pieces of debris simply do not jive with the official story, but they are explainable if you include the parking lot video evidence that shows a huge white explosion at impact. This cannot happen with an aircraft laden only with fuel. It can only happen in the presence of high explosives."
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Art0ir
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jmorgan said: This where they bigged up what they were doing on the day? Hardly an admission of an inside job. No, it provides evidence that the official enquiry was completely hampered and compromised by the CIA and Senior members of the US Armed Forces.
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WEHGuy
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JBL930 said: Art0ir said: JBL930 said: Ok, now that's a very interesting website, there is a LOT to get through, but it certainly says there is reason to open another inquiry..... Reports from people who were there mentioning the huge explosions in the basement, walls being blown out etc.... Then some very senior pilots, respected architects etc.... Thousands of people saying 'something is up'. I haven't bought a tinfoil hat, but I'm intrigued Again, intrigue is healthy. Just don't get caught up in all of it at once or soon you'll be posting links to Youtube videos trying to convince us the Moon is hollow and serves as a base of operations for aliens. Ha ha, I hear what you are saying..... There are some unanswered questions though, you have to admit that? People in the building talking about multiple explosions, why would there be huge explosions in the basement? Did the terrorists plant bombs in the basement too? Plausible explanation I suppose! That and the architects saying that the way that building 7 came down was text book demolition...... I don't know, it would be a f  king horror to believe that the American government could slaughter so many people just to get the ok to go to war, and pass questionable policy's, and even wipe off large amounts of debt...... It seems too ugly to be true! And there would need to be hundreds of people involved to carry it out....... Still interested in hearing Loons evidence, whenever you're ready..... I can remember an older guy who was a family friend saying this to me a few years which I thought was quite interesting. Most high end politicians and powerful people are machiavellian masters and believe "the end justifies the means". and went on to say When you look at the amount of civilians that have died during this "war on terror", do you really think these people are bothered about 3000 of their own people? Collateral damage. What are peoples opinions on the Northwoods documents? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwoods
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JBL930
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Yes, read a few dozen of those too, hard to dismiss the words of such educated and experienced people........ It's all very interesting Art0ir said: I personally find the pilot testimonies the most interesting, especially considering they all come from very experienced pilots with 10's of thousands of hours flight time each.. Pilot said: In August 2006, Pilots for 9/11 Truth received from the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) a copy of the Flight Data Recorder data of Flight 77, which, according to the official account, hit the Pentagon.
We analyzed the data and announced our conclusion on 3/26/07 that "The information provided by the NTSB does not support the 9/11 Commission Report of American Airlines Flight 77 impact with the Pentagon."
- The NTSB Flight Path Animation approach path and altitude does not support official events. - All Altitude data shows the aircraft at least 300 feet too high to have struck the light poles. - The rate of descent data is in direct conflict with the aircraft being able to impact the light poles and be captured in the Dept of Defense "5 Frames" video of an object traveling nearly parallel with the Pentagon lawn. - The record of data stops at least one second prior to official impact time. - If data trends are continued, the aircraft altitude would have been at least 100 feet too high to have hit the Pentagon. Pilot said: Regarding the Flight Data Recorder information for Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, released by the NTSB
John Lear: There's a lot things in that tape that came up, that if you're a pilot, you say, "Hey, wait a minute. That's bull****. That could never happen in a million years." ...
Rob Balsamo: What did you think about 9/11 after you saw it?
John Lear: Well, you know, five minutes after it happened, I knew that it was a scam. ... No Boeing 757 ever crashed into the Pentagon. No Boeing 757 ever crashed at Shanksville. ... And no Arab hijacker, ever in a million years, ever flew into the World Trade Center. And if you got 30 minutes I'll tell you exactly why he couldn't do it the first time. Now, I'd have trouble doing it the first time.
Rob Balsamo: Yeah, same here.
John Lear: Maybe if I had a couple tries to line up a few building, I could have done it. But certainly not the first time and certainly not at 500 or 600 miles an hour.
Rob Balsamo: Yeah, as a matter of fact, one of our members, he was a 737 Check Airman. He was in the sim at the time on September 11 and right after it happened they tried to duplicate it in the simulator and they said they couldn't do it. They were trying to hit the Towers and they couldn't do it. ...
John Lear: Yeah, it would be an amazing feat of airmanship. ... Pilot said: "I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for, like I said, for a terrorist, a so-called terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding -- pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's. And the aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it." Pilot said: there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 280 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."…
"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying." Pilot said: At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of flying. I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757’s and 767’s and could not have flown it the way the flight path was described.
I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School and have experience flying low altitude, high speed aircraft. I could not have done what these beginners did. Something stinks to high heaven! Pilot]The issues of the penetration hole [at the Pentagon said: and the lack of large pieces of debris simply do not jive with the official story, but they are explainable if you include the parking lot video evidence that shows a huge white explosion at impact. This cannot happen with an aircraft laden only with fuel. It can only happen in the presence of high explosives."
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MX7
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Art0ir said: I personally find the pilot testimonies the most interesting, especially considering they all come from very experienced pilots with 10's of thousands of hours flight time each.. What source are the quotes from?
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JBL930
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WEHGuy said: I can remember an older guy who was a family friend saying this to me a few years which I thought was quite interesting. Most high end politicians and powerful people are machiavellian masters and believe "the end justifies the means". and went on to say When you look at the amount of civilians that have died during this "war on terror", do you really think these people are bothered about 3000 of their own people? Collateral damage. What are peoples opinions on the Northwoods documents? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorthwoodsInterested in this too...... I was actually under the impression that it was accepted as a fact now? But that's with almost no research on my part, just a documentary I watched
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Art0ir
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JBL930 said: Ha ha, I hear what you are saying..... There are some unanswered questions though, you have to admit that? Of course, but that's all I'll admit as I don't have the answers. JBL930 said: People in the building talking about multiple explosions, why would there be huge explosions in the basement? Did the terrorists plant bombs in the basement too? Plausible explanation I suppose! Indeed, or as some have suggested they were the columns and floors of the building giving way (that much material crashing around itself would be loud. Who knows? JBL930 said: That and the architects saying that the way that building 7 came down was text book demolition...... Equally, some maintain it was perfectly natural. How do you choose who to believe? I remember on the day it happened I thought it looked exactly like a demolition, but I'm no engineer. JBL930 said: I don't know, it would be a f  king horror to believe that the American government could slaughter so many people just to get the ok to go to war, and pass questionable policy's, and even wipe off large amounts of debt...... It seems too ugly to be true! And there would need to be hundreds of people involved to carry it out....... Still interested in hearing Loons evidence, whenever you're ready..... The whole government wouldn't have needed to be in on it though, only enough to make sure that external forces had a free pass on the day. Again, pure speculation on my part but it's important to remember. As for individuals not being capable of such a thing, read about Operation Northwoods. The only thing that stopped that happening was the the morality of JFK. It had been approved by everyone that needed to approve of it before he intervened. James Bamford said: Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war. Highlights included; Operation Northwoods said: - Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims - We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba - We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. - Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce such fact. The primary drawback to this suggestion appears to be the security risk inherent in obtaining or modifying an aircraft. However, reasonable copies of the MIG could be produced from US resources in about three months - Hijacking attempts against civil air and surface craft should appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the government of Cuba. Concurrently, genuine defections of Cuban civil and military air and surface craft should be encouraged. - It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner en route from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight. a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone. b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will begin transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident. Does that provide a pretext for 911? Not really, but it's certainly a kick in the teeth for any "My government wouldn't do that" preachers.
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JBL930
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Art0ir said: Does that provide a pretext for 911? Not really, but it's certainly a kick in the teeth for any "My government wouldn't do that" preachers. Indeed!!!!
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JBL930
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MX7 said: Art0ir said: I personally find the pilot testimonies the most interesting, especially considering they all come from very experienced pilots with 10's of thousands of hours flight time each.. What source are the quotes from? From the pilots themselves it seems..... http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html
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Art0ir
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MX7 said: What source are the quotes from? All listed on that pilotsfor911 website with links to the interviews, etc. Even contact details for some of the members if you doubt their validity enough to check. Although personally I think their experience and credentials make their claims at least worthy of investigation, particularly their analysis of the flight data, as much as any suggestion of the official report being wrong seems to upset you.
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Rollin
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Art0ir said: jmorgan said: This where they bigged up what they were doing on the day? Hardly an admission of an inside job. No, it provides evidence that the official enquiry was completely hampered and compromised by the CIA and Senior members of the US Armed Forces. If you were in charge of the security of the USA and you were caught napping, how far would you go to save your ass and pension?
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Rollin
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Art0ir said: JBL930 said: Ha ha, I hear what you are saying..... There are some unanswered questions though, you have to admit that? Of course, but that's all I'll admit as I don't have the answers. JBL930 said: People in the building talking about multiple explosions, why would there be huge explosions in the basement? Did the terrorists plant bombs in the basement too? Plausible explanation I suppose! Indeed, or as some have suggested they were the columns and floors of the building giving way (that much material crashing around itself would be loud. Who knows? JBL930 said: That and the architects saying that the way that building 7 came down was text book demolition...... Equally, some maintain it was perfectly natural. How do you choose who to believe? I remember on the day it happened I thought it looked exactly like a demolition, but I'm no engineer. JBL930 said: I don't know, it would be a f  king horror to believe that the American government could slaughter so many people just to get the ok to go to war, and pass questionable policy's, and even wipe off large amounts of debt...... It seems too ugly to be true! And there would need to be hundreds of people involved to carry it out....... Still interested in hearing Loons evidence, whenever you're ready..... The whole government wouldn't have needed to be in on it though, only enough to make sure that external forces had a free pass on the day. Again, pure speculation on my part but it's important to remember. As for individuals not being capable of such a thing, read about Operation Northwoods. The only thing that stopped that happening was the the morality of JFK. It had been approved by everyone that needed to approve of it before he intervened. James Bamford said: Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war. Highlights included; Operation Northwoods said: - Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims - We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba - We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. - Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce such fact. The primary drawback to this suggestion appears to be the security risk inherent in obtaining or modifying an aircraft. However, reasonable copies of the MIG could be produced from US resources in about three months - Hijacking attempts against civil air and surface craft should appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the government of Cuba. Concurrently, genuine defections of Cuban civil and military air and surface craft should be encouraged. - It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner en route from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight. a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone. b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will begin transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident. Does that provide a pretext for 911? Not really, but it's certainly a kick in the teeth for any "My government wouldn't do that" preachers. Did their government do any of it? No they didn't.
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Rollin
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JBL930 said: Art0ir said: JBL930 said: Ok, now that's a very interesting website, there is a LOT to get through, but it certainly says there is reason to open another inquiry..... Reports from people who were there mentioning the huge explosions in the basement, walls being blown out etc.... Then some very senior pilots, respected architects etc.... Thousands of people saying 'something is up'. I haven't bought a tinfoil hat, but I'm intrigued Again, intrigue is healthy. Just don't get caught up in all of it at once or soon you'll be posting links to Youtube videos trying to convince us the Moon is hollow and serves as a base of operations for aliens. Ha ha, I hear what you are saying..... There are some unanswered questions though, you have to admit that? People in the building talking about multiple explosions, why would there be huge explosions in the basement? Did the terrorists plant bombs in the basement too? Plausible explanation I suppose! That and the architects saying that the way that building 7 came down was text book demolition...... I don't know, it would be a f  king horror to believe that the American government could slaughter so many people just to get the ok to go to war, and pass questionable policy's, and even wipe off large amounts of debt...... It seems too ugly to be true! And there would need to be hundreds of people involved to carry it out....... Still interested in hearing Loons evidence, whenever you're ready..... No unanswered questions. Just answers you don't understand. The people who talked about huge explosions...Have they witnessed huge explosions before? Have you? What do you think the sound of a huge f  king building collapsing would sound like? Building 7, text book demolition? I'll just ask the architect who design my mates kitchen extension. Do you know what architects do for a living? Blowing up buildings? Demolitions? FFS use your f  king brain. "Investigate" "Research" Don't make me f  king laugh.
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JBL930
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Rollin said: JBL930 said: Art0ir said: JBL930 said: Ok, now that's a very interesting website, there is a LOT to get through, but it certainly says there is reason to open another inquiry..... Reports from people who were there mentioning the huge explosions in the basement, walls being blown out etc.... Then some very senior pilots, respected architects etc.... Thousands of people saying 'something is up'. I haven't bought a tinfoil hat, but I'm intrigued Again, intrigue is healthy. Just don't get caught up in all of it at once or soon you'll be posting links to Youtube videos trying to convince us the Moon is hollow and serves as a base of operations for aliens. Ha ha, I hear what you are saying..... There are some unanswered questions though, you have to admit that? People in the building talking about multiple explosions, why would there be huge explosions in the basement? Did the terrorists plant bombs in the basement too? Plausible explanation I suppose! That and the architects saying that the way that building 7 came down was text book demolition...... I don't know, it would be a f  king horror to believe that the American government could slaughter so many people just to get the ok to go to war, and pass questionable policy's, and even wipe off large amounts of debt...... It seems too ugly to be true! And there would need to be hundreds of people involved to carry it out....... Still interested in hearing Loons evidence, whenever you're ready..... No unanswered questions. Just answers you don't understand. The people who talked aout huge explosions...Have they witnessed huge explosions before? Have you? What do you think the sound of a huge f  king building collapsing would sound like? Building 7, text book demolition? I'll just ask the architect who design my mates kitchen extension. Do you know what architects do for a living? Blowing up buildings? Demolitions? FFS use your f  king brain. "Investigate" "Research" Don't make me f  king laugh. Calm down..... It's a discussion, no need to get so irate..... The explosions in the basement, 80 floors below where the planes hit, all the glass blown out and people badly burnt and injured from walls blowing into them, but people up near where the planes hit not hurt, hanging out of the windows etc...... Was it terrorists planting bombs in the basement? It sounds like a plausible answer, but so far there is no reasonable answer. Or is there? Also those pilot statements, saying that it is not possible for that plane to have been flown into the pentagon, do those guys not hold any weight?
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Rollin
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What explosions?
Do you know what seismic data is?
If not, continue your "research" and "investigations"
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JBL930
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There were lots of reports of an explosion in the basement, civilians, firemen etc..... What caused all those injuries inside the lower part of the building? Or are the eyewitness reports BS?
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Rollin
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JBL930 said: There were lots of reports of an explosion in the basement, civilians, firemen etc..... What caused all those injuries inside the lower part of the building? Or are the eyewitness reports BS? What would the simplest explanation be for those injuries? Just because you don't know doesn't mean Israelis/CIA/Lizards planted bombs without 1000s of people noticing. Did you "research" the seismic activity yet. Explosions boom,boom,shake the room....apart from the Israeli/CIA/lizard ones.
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JBL930
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Rollin said: JBL930 said: There were lots of reports of an explosion in the basement, civilians, firemen etc..... What caused all those injuries inside the lower part of the building? Or are the eyewitness reports BS? What would the simplest explanation be for those injuries? Just because you don't know doesn't mean Israelis/CIA/Lizards planted bombs without 1000s of people noticing. Did you "research" the seismic activity yet. Explosions boom,boom,shake the room....apart from the Israeli/CIA/lizard ones. Forget it, you're really rude........ I searched about seismic data and just got a site saying huge spikes were recorded 'before' the buildings came down which apparently corroborates an explosion...... But I understand what you mean, plane hits building, building rocks, lower floors take some damage, glass blown out, walls etc being damaged, so perhaps no bomb needed...... I'll crawl back under my stone now, thanks for the friendly exchange.....
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