Cost of living squeeze in 2022, 23 & 24 (Vol. 2)

Cost of living squeeze in 2022, 23 & 24 (Vol. 2)

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Digga

40,411 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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Nephew and his g/f work nights at local M&S and reckon fewer customers, but spending more. Of course prices are up, significantly, year on year.

119

6,556 posts

37 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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And yet many supermarkets were seeking bags of veg for approx 15p.

soupdragon1

4,095 posts

98 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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gregs656 said:
119 said:
Supermarkets recording bumper sales in the lead up to Christmas since 2019 and mortgage lenders cut rates so things are looking up for the start of 2024 hopefully!
That surprises me. I was back in the UK over Christmas and the shops seemed quiet.
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People all of social media posting Rambo meme pictures, getting prepared to go to Tesco for Christmas shopping smile

We were in Belfast 2 weeks before Christmas getting stuff. Some sports clothing for my son in JD Sports and there was a zig zag queue at the till, the kind you see at airport security.

Multi storey car park was 1 in 1 out at 10am. Absolute chaos at times.

Thankyou4calling

10,619 posts

174 months

Wednesday 3rd January
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119 said:
Supermarkets recording bumper sales in the lead up to Christmas since 2019 and mortgage lenders cut rates so things are looking up for the start of 2024 hopefully!
I don't know where the source is for them s 😔 info but at least two of the last Christmas' were cancelled by the government (COVID) and the other was more off than on so I don't see being the best since 2019 ( however that's adjusted) to be anything to shout about.

119

6,556 posts

37 months

Thursday 4th January
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Thankyou4calling said:
119 said:
Supermarkets recording bumper sales in the lead up to Christmas since 2019 and mortgage lenders cut rates so things are looking up for the start of 2024 hopefully!
I don't know where the source is for them s ?? info but at least two of the last Christmas' were cancelled by the government (COVID) and the other was more off than on so I don't see being the best since 2019 ( however that's adjusted) to be anything to shout about.
It wasn't that hard to find.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67865065

Digga

40,411 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th January
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119 said:
Thankyou4calling said:
119 said:
Supermarkets recording bumper sales in the lead up to Christmas since 2019 and mortgage lenders cut rates so things are looking up for the start of 2024 hopefully!
I don't know where the source is for them s ?? info but at least two of the last Christmas' were cancelled by the government (COVID) and the other was more off than on so I don't see being the best since 2019 ( however that's adjusted) to be anything to shout about.
It wasn't that hard to find.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67865065
Very last line of that confirms my nephew’s suspicions- adjusting for (in some cases huge) inflation changes the picture.

119

6,556 posts

37 months

Thursday 4th January
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Digga said:
119 said:
Thankyou4calling said:
119 said:
Supermarkets recording bumper sales in the lead up to Christmas since 2019 and mortgage lenders cut rates so things are looking up for the start of 2024 hopefully!
I don't know where the source is for them s ?? info but at least two of the last Christmas' were cancelled by the government (COVID) and the other was more off than on so I don't see being the best since 2019 ( however that's adjusted) to be anything to shout about.
It wasn't that hard to find.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67865065
Very last line of that confirms my nephew’s suspicions- adjusting for (in some cases huge) inflation changes the picture.
To be honest, i think that mortgage rates coming down could have a bigger impact going forward.

Digga

40,411 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th January
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Never tried for a mortgage on a turkey.

Had HP for a lemon once.

Vanden Saab

14,186 posts

75 months

Thursday 4th January
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Louis Balfour said:
snuffy said:
scenario8 said:
I’ve seen it mentioned across several platforms that 1.5m mortgages will reach the end of their fixed term in 2024.

Mentioned in this link but no citation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67873017
As a large number of people are on fixed rates, and have been for a goodly number of years now, then it stands to reason that in any given time period X, Y people's fixed term mortgage will come to an end.

And yet, without fail, the media trot it out as if it's some kind of staggering revelation that no one has ever seen occur before.
Sure, but it is now highly relevant because five years ago there was not such a big delta between previous and new rates.
Why on earth would you fix your mortgage now. It seems that rates are more or less guaranteed to fall significantly in the next two years. Are the current variable rates that much higher or is it that the cancellation costs after two years are lower overall.

Hustle_

24,772 posts

161 months

Thursday 4th January
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Vanden Saab said:
Why on earth would you fix your mortgage now. It seems that rates are more or less guaranteed to fall significantly in the next two years. Are the current variable rates that much higher or is it that the cancellation costs after two years are lower overall.
All of the mortgage products I considered recently had an SVR of about 8%.

Trackers available to people with an LTV or more than 60% are often 1% or more over base so you're straight in at 6.25%. The fixes currently available will win out.

So it comes down to choosing a fix term.

Hence 2-year fix is I think the most popular choice at the moment?

fiatpower

3,062 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th January
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Vanden Saab said:
Why on earth would you fix your mortgage now. It seems that rates are more or less guaranteed to fall significantly in the next two years. Are the current variable rates that much higher or is it that the cancellation costs after two years are lower overall.
For me to stay on the variable rate with my current lender my payment would go from £737 to £1314. Going with a new lender on a variable rate is £1050 average, on a fixed rate it's £881. So over the course of the year i'd be paying out an extra £2028 if nothing changed in the hope that rates drop.


BUG4LIFE

2,032 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th January
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fiatpower said:
Vanden Saab said:
Why on earth would you fix your mortgage now. It seems that rates are more or less guaranteed to fall significantly in the next two years. Are the current variable rates that much higher or is it that the cancellation costs after two years are lower overall.
For me to stay on the variable rate with my current lender my payment would go from £737 to £1314. Going with a new lender on a variable rate is £1050 average, on a fixed rate it's £881. So over the course of the year i'd be paying out an extra £2028 if nothing changed in the hope that rates drop.
So, you'd need rates to drop quite a bit to make your £2028 back? Going back to Saab's question, fixing now gives you stability and rates might not drop significantly enough to make paying out hundreds more now worthwhile...unfortunately I'm not bright enough to work out how low rates would need to reduce!!!

RayDonovan

4,446 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th January
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fido

16,839 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th January
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The rangecooker has been broken for two weeks. Saving a fortune on dinners (eating at parents and friends) and making fresh salads. Seems this is the way to go - good for the waist and the wallet!

Carl_VivaEspana

12,320 posts

263 months

Thursday 4th January
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soupdragon1 said:
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We were in Belfast 2 weeks before Christmas getting stuff. Some sports clothing for my son in JD Sports and there was a zig zag queue at the till, the kind you see at airport security.

Multi storey car park was 1 in 1 out at 10am. Absolute chaos at times.
We have seen it in this thread many times, 'town seems packed' etc. but then you see this:

"Shares in JD Sports have plummeted by more than 20% after the sportswear seller issued an profit warning.

The company said its profits would be about £125m lower than previously predicted after a worse-than-expected festive trading period."

I think that sometimes, people just want to get out of the home and interact, especially at Christmas.


RayDonovan

4,446 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th January
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Carl_VivaEspana said:
soupdragon1 said:
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We were in Belfast 2 weeks before Christmas getting stuff. Some sports clothing for my son in JD Sports and there was a zig zag queue at the till, the kind you see at airport security.

Multi storey car park was 1 in 1 out at 10am. Absolute chaos at times.
We have seen it in this thread many times, 'town seems packed' etc. but then you see this:

"Shares in JD Sports have plummeted by more than 20% after the sportswear seller issued an profit warning.

The company said its profits would be about £125m lower than previously predicted after a worse-than-expected festive trading period."

I think that sometimes, people just want to get out of the home and interact, especially at Christmas.
'Next' results have been decent but I think they massively benefit from a really slick online offering - not sure any retailer combines online and physical as well as Next do.

cuprabob

14,741 posts

215 months

Thursday 4th January
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RayDonovan said:
'Next' results have been decent but I think they massively benefit from a really slick online offering - not sure any retailer combines online and physical as well as Next do.
Coincidentally, I just heard on the news that Next is warning customers that there may be delivery delays due to a lot of their product being transported through The Red Sea.


Edited by cuprabob on Thursday 4th January 14:56

Deesee

8,478 posts

84 months

Thursday 4th January
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cuprabob said:
RayDonovan said:
'Next' results have been decent but I think they massively benefit from a really slick online offering - not sure any retailer combines online and physical as well as Next do.
Coincidentally, I just heard on the news that Next is warning customer that their may be delivery delays due to a lot of their product being transported through The Red Sea.
Companies need to re tool here..

soupdragon1

4,095 posts

98 months

Thursday 4th January
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Carl_VivaEspana said:
soupdragon1 said:
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We were in Belfast 2 weeks before Christmas getting stuff. Some sports clothing for my son in JD Sports and there was a zig zag queue at the till, the kind you see at airport security.

Multi storey car park was 1 in 1 out at 10am. Absolute chaos at times.
We have seen it in this thread many times, 'town seems packed' etc. but then you see this:

"Shares in JD Sports have plummeted by more than 20% after the sportswear seller issued an profit warning.

The company said its profits would be about £125m lower than previously predicted after a worse-than-expected festive trading period."

I think that sometimes, people just want to get out of the home and interact, especially at Christmas.
Yes, I was specifically referencing Christmas shoppers on high streets in the quote I posted, rather than JD sports issues with unusually warm autumn temperatures smile

Issue with JD Sports is I seen on a pair of Nike trainers, £140 but sports direct had them for £110 so I saved the £30. If JD had them at same price, they would have got the sale there and then as it was in their premises I seen the product I really liked for a present for my son.

okgo

38,231 posts

199 months

Thursday 4th January
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RayDonovan said:
'Next' results have been decent but I think they massively benefit from a really slick online offering - not sure any retailer combines online and physical as well as Next do.
Tbh not many of the big highstreet shops are bad these days, they’re all mostly using the same tech (I’ve sold it to them in some cases). JD have been pretty advanced for a while.

Suspect their audience are feeling the hit more than most.