Cost of living squeeze in 2022, 23 & 24 (Vol. 2)

Cost of living squeeze in 2022, 23 & 24 (Vol. 2)

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JagLover

42,428 posts

235 months

Sunday 21st January
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snuffy said:
50 hours a week at minimum wage is £520. Which is £430 after tax and NI. £500 a month for a flat, i.e. £125/week, compared to an net income of £430/week. I imagine what is why the question of why he can't afford that was posed ?
Deduct child maintenance as well and maybe flats are a bit more expensive where he works?


glazbagun

14,280 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st January
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I think there's a distorted reality that those from social housing have about the rest of the rental market too. If the guy is on minimum wage then realistically he's looking for a bedroom, not a house, privately renting at least. Then your council tax & power are usually included. Otherwise that's another £200PCM give or take.

If he was renting a cheap flat with his ex it would likely have been below market rent.

In addition, though I can't speak for Glasgow, rental opportunities in University towns are getting stupidly fierce- that London way where each place has multiple viewings in the first day and you basically decide then & there to take it and just hope you're the first.


Quattromaster

2,908 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st January
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Rufus Stone said:
Heard a snippet on the news this morning, insurance premiums have on average increased by 50% year on year. Most of us knew this already I guess.
My brother is what I call a “Posh” builder, million pound extensions and alike.

His three biggest customers are all in insurance, the money flying about in nuts.

Digga

40,333 posts

283 months

Monday 29th January
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Given that housing costs - rent or mortgage - make up a significant proportion of most household's outgoings, it's highly disappointing to see how little the government did, when base rates went up, to ensure building of new homes contimnued at the required pace.

The agreed, cross-party ideal of 300k new homes per year was missed in 2023, will be missed in 2024 and, with a huge recession in the industry, 2025 does not look likely to be able to hit the target, let alone make up the shortfell.

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/c...


Puddenchucker

4,096 posts

218 months

Monday 29th January
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Digga said:
Given that housing costs - rent or mortgage - make up a significant proportion of most household's outgoings, it's highly disappointing to see how little the government did, when base rates went up, to ensure building of new homes contimnued at the required pace.

The agreed, cross-party ideal of 300k new homes per year was missed in 2023, will be missed in 2024 and, with a huge recession in the industry, 2025 does not look likely to be able to hit the target, let alone make up the shortfell.

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/c...
"Nutrient Neutrality" also played a significant part in delaying/preventing new builds:

https://www.hbf.co.uk/nutrient-neutrality-4-years-...

Digga

40,333 posts

283 months

Monday 29th January
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Matter not what caused delays or reductions in builds, but the government ought to be all over this and they are, instead, nowhere to be seen.

IMHO creating truly affordable homes will only ocurr with substantial state intervention. Whilst house prices and land costs are as high as they are, developers are always going to throw up comedy detacheds on pocket handkerchief plots, if that's where the profit lies.

The stubborn nature of high house prices is at the heart of so many inefficiencies and inequalities in the UK economy. Affordability and the cost of living are impacted most, but there's huge knock-on effects to business, where the pressure of wages sits.

Scrapping stamp duty - a blunt instrument at best - whilst slightly inflamatory in terms of prices, will increase the efficiency of the housing market - people in large 4-5 bed homes are more likely to downsize if they aren't hit wit SDLT, and people who are moving for employment are not hit in the pocket or faced with a longer commute staying put.

ben5575

6,286 posts

221 months

Monday 29th January
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Puddenchucker said:
"Nutrient Neutrality" also played a significant part in delaying/preventing new builds:

https://www.hbf.co.uk/nutrient-neutrality-4-years-...
Is playing. The Lords blocked the legislation to eliminate the issue.

Chris Type R

8,033 posts

249 months

Tuesday 30th January
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I'm surprised this has not had a mention yet - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-6813...

TheBBC said:
A Tory MP said he quit his ministerial role because he could not afford to pay his mortgage on a salary of £118,300.

In a blog post, he said he stood down: "Because my mortgage rises this month from £800pcm to £2,000, which I simply couldn't afford to pay on a ministerial salary."

glazbagun

14,280 posts

197 months

Tuesday 30th January
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I did wonder at that price jump.

RayDonovan

4,391 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Chris Type R said:
I'm surprised this has not had a mention yet - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-6813...

TheBBC said:
A Tory MP said he quit his ministerial role because he could not afford to pay his mortgage on a salary of £118,300.

In a blog post, he said he stood down: "Because my mortgage rises this month from £800pcm to £2,000, which I simply couldn't afford to pay on a ministerial salary."
£6.5k or so net per month (excluding pension contribution and other deductions), but a divorce and probably child maintenance costs on top. You can see how that number dwindles down.

Digga

40,333 posts

283 months

Tuesday 30th January
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RayDonovan said:
Chris Type R said:
I'm surprised this has not had a mention yet - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-6813...

TheBBC said:
A Tory MP said he quit his ministerial role because he could not afford to pay his mortgage on a salary of £118,300.

In a blog post, he said he stood down: "Because my mortgage rises this month from £800pcm to £2,000, which I simply couldn't afford to pay on a ministerial salary."
£6.5k or so net per month (excluding pension contribution and other deductions), but a divorce and probably child maintenance costs on top. You can see how that number dwindles down.
Coke, hookers, Mercedes A-Class on 58.95% APR.

Sorry, wrong thread.

119

6,327 posts

36 months

Tuesday 30th January
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Chris Type R said:
I'm surprised this has not had a mention yet - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-6813...

TheBBC said:
A Tory MP said he quit his ministerial role because he could not afford to pay his mortgage on a salary of £118,300.

In a blog post, he said he stood down: "Because my mortgage rises this month from £800pcm to £2,000, which I simply couldn't afford to pay on a ministerial salary."
There is more to the story than just the 'headlines'.

"Mr Freeman also told The New Statesman on Monday his finances "are not what they were - at all", having gone through "a very painful divorce"

That will be a substantial drain on his finances as well no doubt.


budgie smuggler

5,390 posts

159 months

Tuesday 30th January
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It's a very tough job with long hours, but jeez that statement about the salary being such that only "Hedge Funder Donors, young spin doctors and failed trade unionists can afford to do"... come on mate! It's a 97th percentile salary FFS.

I personally know families where both parents are working full time, yet have had to sell their (stty) second car, given up all non essentials including kids activities like swimming lessons, and where the dad is now doing shifts in the local pub most evenings and both weekend days to make up the shortfall from their mortgage increase.

It has royally fked up theirs and their kids lives, and sadly they don't have the option of simply walking away from a £120K job to presumably walk straight into some other significantly more lucrative role (MP + 'consultant' presumably?)

Very very crass thing to say.

princeperch

7,931 posts

247 months

Friday 16th February
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Email from my daughters nursery yesterday, fees going up 14pc this year in april.

That follows a 22pc increase this time last year.

I never thought I'd say it but thank you Jeremy hunt for the 15 hours free a week which kicks in at the same time.

2022 - paying 1100 a month (approx)

2023- 1350 a month (approx)

2024- 1100 a month (approx).

Leicester Loyal

4,551 posts

122 months

Friday 16th February
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princeperch said:
Email from my daughters nursery yesterday, fees going up 14pc this year in april.

That follows a 22pc increase this time last year.

I never thought I'd say it but thank you Jeremy hunt for the 15 hours free a week which kicks in at the same time.

2022 - paying 1100 a month (approx)

2023- 1350 a month (approx)

2024- 1100 a month (approx).
The problem with the freebies is that it just pushes prices up. No stamp duty = higher house prices. The free 15 hour nursery fees will probably just mean the nursery will increase the price for the next 2 years and you'll end up paying the same as you always were, but then the Government will give the nursery a nice little top up.

CoolHands

18,658 posts

195 months

Friday 16th February
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Cheerios 515g (pretty normal sized pack) £5 in Morrisons.

I just had a look and £2.75 in Asda, £3.95 in Sainsbury’s. Once again, I just took the pic as I was shocked when I saw it.


Rufus Stone

6,233 posts

56 months

Friday 16th February
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CoolHands said:
Cheerios 515g (pretty normal sized pack) £5 in Morrisons.

I just had a look and £2.75 in Asda, £3.95 in Sainsbury’s. Once again, I just took the pic as I was shocked when I saw it.

That'll be the pre discount price that nobody ever pays. Much like Nescafe coffee.

JagLover

42,428 posts

235 months

Friday 16th February
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CoolHands said:
Cheerios 515g (pretty normal sized pack) £5 in Morrisons.

I just had a look and £2.75 in Asda, £3.95 in Sainsbury’s. Once again, I just took the pic as I was shocked when I saw it.

I tend to buy my cereal when it on special offer if getting it from Sainsbury's, at special offer it is the same price as Asda. I think with branded cereals always best to know the prices locally so you can get it from the cheapest place, very easy to pay £1+ extra a packet.

spikeyhead

17,331 posts

197 months

Friday 16th February
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Why would anyone buy that sort of sugary carby crap?

I am aware that people do, I just have no idea why they do

CoolHands

18,658 posts

195 months

Friday 16th February
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I think there should be stronger rules to prevent artificial inflation just to be able to offer it at a bullst ‘offer’ price later.