Cost of living squeeze in 2022, 23 & 24 (Vol. 2)

Cost of living squeeze in 2022, 23 & 24 (Vol. 2)

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Random Account No6

4,386 posts

186 months

Friday 16th February
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CoolHands said:
Cheerios 515g (pretty normal sized pack) £5 in Morrisons.

I just had a look and £2.75 in Asda, £3.95 in Sainsbury’s. Once again, I just took the pic as I was shocked when I saw it.

515g is the bigger pack, they’re pushing you toward the much cheaper normal Cheerio pack which is reduced to £2.50 for the bigger size of 540g. Likely due to stocking.


spikeyhead said:
Why would anyone buy that sort of sugary carby crap?

I am aware that people do, I just have no idea why they do
Fatties addicted to sugar and food which turns to mush when it gets wet (a good indicator of what’s bad for you!)

JagLover

42,426 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Apparently inflation is falling due to reduced price of Crumpet....... biggrin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68833077

croyde

22,939 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April
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The other day Richi said we were through it.

What does that idiot know, everything has shot up, by loads, apart from my income.

Unless everything drops to what it was 2 years ago, it ain't over, ever!

Where I work we are on above London average wages but discussions are quite often about how to eake out a soup, broth, stew etc

These are workers that used to go out for lunch pre Covid and go for a drink a few nights a week.

I can't remember the last after work pub visit and lunch is spent in the office comparing packed lunches.

And meanwhile the local pubs and cafés are struggling or have closed.

My personal food bill is my greatest expense after my exhorbitant rent.

isaldiri

18,596 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th April
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croyde said:
The other day Richi said we were through it.

What does that idiot know, everything has shot up, by loads, apart from my income.

Unless everything drops to what it was 2 years ago, it ain't over, ever!
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You weren't seriously thinking that prices were going to revert to 2021/early 2022 levels were you? Being 'through' inflation simply meant that prices weren't rising at the same rate as the last 2 years - which........would be entirely correct. Not even sunak is stupid enough to be saying cost of living isn't high.

croyde

22,939 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April
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isaldiri said:
You weren't seriously thinking that prices were going to revert to 2021/early 2022 levels were you? Being 'through' inflation simply meant that prices weren't rising at the same rate as the last 2 years - which........would be entirely correct. Not even sunak is stupid enough to be saying cost of living isn't high.
Of course I wasn't biggrin

But he was talking as if it was all over and everything will be fine now.

By the way, inflation may only be 3.1 percent currently but my local supermarket seems to be still running at 20 percent every few weeks and making their biggest profits ever.

snuffy

9,767 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th April
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croyde said:
By the way, inflation may only be 3.1 percent currently but my local supermarket seems to be still running at 20 percent every few weeks and making their biggest profits ever.
I suggest if your local supermarket really is increases it's prices by 20% every few weeks then you should change to another supermarket.




snuffy

9,767 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th April
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JagLover said:
Apparently inflation is falling due to reduced price of Crumpet....... biggrin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68833077
BBC Article said:
However, lower inflation does not mean prices overall are coming down, they are just rising less quickly.
It never ceases to amaze me, that the BBC, and other media outlets, feel the need to keep saying this.

I don't know which is worse, a) that people actually do need to have this pointed out to them, or b) that the media thinks that people are so stupid that they don't grasp the concept of the inflation.

I mean, if I'm driving along at 70mph, and then I slow down to 20mph, I'm not going backwards, I am ?



mikeiow

5,377 posts

130 months

Wednesday 17th April
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I think car insurance might have it’s own thread, but our renewals came in last week….
SWMBOs Kona EV up 20%….hmm, okay…
But my XC60 up 71% eek

Hastings Direct (mine) even had the gall to point out most were up 50% - “so why have you charged me 71%, you cheeky sods”. No changes to policy or us….

Onto the comparison sites…..got the XC down to ‘only’ 20% up…..& LV haggled the Kona down to only 13% up.
We are lucky enough that this isn’t breaking our world, but I feel for those who are running tight to a budget frown

Downward

3,596 posts

103 months

Wednesday 17th April
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croyde said:
The other day Richi said we were through it.

What does that idiot know, everything has shot up, by loads, apart from my income.

Unless everything drops to what it was 2 years ago, it ain't over, ever!

Where I work we are on above London average wages but discussions are quite often about how to eake out a soup, broth, stew etc

These are workers that used to go out for lunch pre Covid and go for a drink a few nights a week.

I can't remember the last after work pub visit and lunch is spent in the office comparing packed lunches.

And meanwhile the local pubs and cafés are struggling or have closed.

My personal food bill is my greatest expense after my exhorbitant rent.
Funny Council tax and Water went up from 1st April. Straight away comes out of the bank.
Pay rises expected 1st April. They can’t even be arsed to speak to the NHS pay board to agree a pay rise.
Not sure on food price increases as we do big shops but already with Mortgage rates up again I’m £150 a month down with the Council tax and water.
So yeah that’s £1800 a year not getting spent on the high street or on leisure etc. You can see why places are closing down.

Downward

3,596 posts

103 months

Wednesday 17th April
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mikeiow said:
I think car insurance might have it’s own thread, but our renewals came in last week….
SWMBOs Kona EV up 20%….hmm, okay…
But my XC60 up 71% eek

Hastings Direct (mine) even had the gall to point out most were up 50% - “so why have you charged me 71%, you cheeky sods”. No changes to policy or us….

Onto the comparison sites…..got the XC down to ‘only’ 20% up…..& LV haggled the Kona down to only 13% up.
We are lucky enough that this isn’t breaking our world, but I feel for those who are running tight to a budget frown
My Volvo went from £281 to £577

okgo

38,058 posts

198 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Parking permit in London £300 now up from £170. Pesky emissions.

croyde

22,939 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Yep, mobile phone, broadband, council tax, Thames Water all taking a chunk.

Their cut plus the rate of inflation.

Funny that some companies manage to keep their prices down.

I use a Smarty sim for my 4g router. 3 years now and it's stayed at £16 a month since I started. Unlimited calls, data, texts and free EU roaming.

Don't get me on CoffeeMate. Now twice the price and half the size, hence a 4x hike in cost.

But I'm crafty, now only using 1 teaspoon not 2, that'll show 'em laugh

kingston12

5,483 posts

157 months

Wednesday 17th April
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croyde said:
The other day Richi said we were through it.

What does that idiot know, everything has shot up, by loads, apart from my income.

Unless everything drops to what it was 2 years ago, it ain't over, ever!

Where I work we are on above London average wages but discussions are quite often about how to eake out a soup, broth, stew etc

These are workers that used to go out for lunch pre Covid and go for a drink a few nights a week.

I can't remember the last after work pub visit and lunch is spent in the office comparing packed lunches.

And meanwhile the local pubs and cafés are struggling or have closed.

My personal food bill is my greatest expense after my exhorbitant rent.
I suppose that he has to concentrate on the 'positive' element of the message, but inflation running that high for that long is going to leave huge ongoing structural change in the economy.

Pay inflation has been very good according to the stats but, like you, I haven't personally seen it and everyone that I've talked to about it seems to have had below inflation pay increases. I suppose the ones that have had 10%+ each year are keeping quiet about it!

croyde

22,939 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th April
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kingston12 said:
I suppose that he has to concentrate on the 'positive' element of the message, but inflation running that high for that long is going to leave huge ongoing structural change in the economy.

Pay inflation has been very good according to the stats but, like you, I haven't personally seen it and everyone that I've talked to about it seems to have had below inflation pay increases. I suppose the ones that have had 10%+ each year are keeping quiet about it!
I don't know anyone who has had a payrise in my business for years now.

The particular company I work for has not seen a payrise of any kind in 5 years.

I believe that they want us experienced oldies to get fed up and leave so that they can replace us with young eager multi skilled but master of none, for half the price.

But the hours are good so I'm clinging on biggrin

Rufus Stone

6,233 posts

56 months

Wednesday 17th April
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CPI 3.2%
CPIH 3.8%
RPI 4.3%

Take your pick.

Mr Penguin

1,187 posts

39 months

Wednesday 17th April
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croyde said:
Of course I wasn't biggrin

But he was talking as if it was all over and everything will be fine now.

By the way, inflation may only be 3.1 percent currently but my local supermarket seems to be still running at 20 percent every few weeks and making their biggest profits ever.
I don't know which supermarket you go to, but it is unlikely that prices are high because they are increasing prices for no reason.

Tesco's net profit margin last year was 2.71%, before that 1.48%
Sainsburys' was 0.91% last year and -0.52% before that

This is all fairly normal for the supermarkets because it is such a competitive sector.

kingston12

5,483 posts

157 months

Wednesday 17th April
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croyde said:
I don't know anyone who has had a payrise in my business for years now.

The particular company I work for has not seen a payrise of any kind in 5 years.

I believe that they want us experienced oldies to get fed up and leave so that they can replace us with young eager multi skilled but master of none, for half the price.

But the hours are good so I'm clinging on biggrin
No pay rise at all is very harsh, but I've heard of others in the same position.

More common in the past couple of years seems to be a 'generous' pay award of 3-4% when inflation has been running far higher. Better than nothing, but still a pay cut with a nasty compound effect.

soupdragon1

4,060 posts

97 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Mr Penguin said:
croyde said:
Of course I wasn't biggrin

But he was talking as if it was all over and everything will be fine now.

By the way, inflation may only be 3.1 percent currently but my local supermarket seems to be still running at 20 percent every few weeks and making their biggest profits ever.
I don't know which supermarket you go to, but it is unlikely that prices are high because they are increasing prices for no reason.

Tesco's net profit margin last year was 2.71%, before that 1.48%
Sainsburys' was 0.91% last year and -0.52% before that

This is all fairly normal for the supermarkets because it is such a competitive sector.
Lazy journalism is helping fuel a misconception that supermarkets are increasing prices. Hell, even in USA, Joe Biden is asking shops to reduce prices. Talk about barking up the wrong tree.

The issue we have is that big conglomerates like Kraft, Nestle, Lever etc (go look at all the brands that sit under their umbrella) have an absolute stranglehold on retail supplies and make waaaay more profit than the actual retailers that sell the products. But lazy journalists and lazy politicians spout a big load of nonsense about the retailers and by default, the big conglomerates come out smelling of roses, despite quadruple profit margins.

Its kind of sickening to see these global behemoths get away with it. Remember Tesco stopped selling Heinz for a while? (Heinz are owned by Kraft)

That was, IMO, due to the strengthening of the dollar and for every £1 profit in the UK, that was only $1.10 profit instead of the $1.40 previously, so that huge margin drop was driven by FX currency movements and Heinz wanted to maintain the $ revenues so it shafted the world on local price, due to the strong dollar. That's how this st works unfortunately.

Rufus Stone

6,233 posts

56 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Mr Penguin said:
I don't know which supermarket you go to, but it is unlikely that prices are high because they are increasing prices for no reason.

Tesco's net profit margin last year was 2.71%, before that 1.48%
Sainsburys' was 0.91% last year and -0.52% before that

This is all fairly normal for the supermarkets because it is such a competitive sector.
That'll be due to the penalty pricing imposed on shoppers who refuse to sign up to their loyalty scheme.

skinnyman

1,638 posts

93 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Downward said:
Funny Council tax and Water went up from 1st April. Straight away comes out of the bank.
Pay rises expected 1st April. They can’t even be arsed to speak to the NHS pay board to agree a pay rise.
Not sure on food price increases as we do big shops but already with Mortgage rates up again I’m £150 a month down with the Council tax and water.
So yeah that’s £1800 a year not getting spent on the high street or on leisure etc. You can see why places are closing down.
This was my response when someone at work mentioned the cut in national insurance, it coincides nicely with the increase in council tax/water rates/car insurance etc. I won't have any extra cash, my bank account will just act as a middle man for 24hrs.