Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 4)

Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 4)

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Amateurish

7,762 posts

223 months

Thursday 18th April
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Killboy said:
Will Labour then be blamed for why Brexit continues to be a failure?
You know it.

Who wants to take bets when the first person will blame an incoming Labour govt for the failure to make Brexit work?

Within the first month of their administration?

prand

5,916 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Vanden Saab said:
Did the EU pay your mortgage and feed your kids before we left. spin
Well, for me, a European company paid my mortgage and fed my kids pre-brexit. They then moved their offices back to the EU in 2019 and we were all made redundant.

I moved into a role in Financial Services the City of London. Sure it has its own energy and is somewhat by playing a global role but its clear there has been a lot of investment and roles headed to New York, Paris, Frankfurt and Amsterdam at the expense of London and UK.

It does concern me that Brexit was a stepping stone for deregulation of the country, we now hear of Freeports, SEZ and charter cities, being set up as purely commercial concerns yet subsidised by low tax and cheap acquisition of public assets with low levels of regulation or oversight. The government wants to leave the European Court of Human Rights, wealthy corporations and individuals seem to be free to profit at the expense of the country and its people. With so much of the country's utilities and services in private hands, the washing of public money and it moving offshore seems frightening.

Apologies for the rather pessimistic view, but this does seem to me the purpose of Brexit, and this is how the current and future govt (including Labour who seem committed to the Freeport initiatives too) will want to make it work.

GetCarter

29,419 posts

280 months

Thursday 18th April
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87% of under 25s want to rejoin the EU.

They got completely screwed, so I understand why.

crankedup5

9,692 posts

36 months

Thursday 18th April
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Amateurish said:
crankedup5 said:
Amateurish said:
crankedup5 said:
Time you and others understood that the argument is over and it’s now up to our Government to get on with the job of making our new status a success.
And what a great job they have done.

2019 they were elected on the basis of "Get Brexit Done".

Now they are done.
Yup, I’m sure an incoming Labour Party will be far superior in taking our Nation forwards.
It is sad that this is your best defence of the last 5 years of government failures to "Get Brexit Done"

I enjoy your valiant efforts to wave the Brexit flag, but I don't think anyone will ever change your mind, whatever the reality.

I don't think there is much point engaging with your posts.

beer
I’m not defending our Government, fact is I have on many occasions stated my disappointment at the lack of progress Government have made thus far. My expecting you to know that is obviously misplaced, despite my ongoing and frequent posting on the subject.
I don’t think that there is much point in engaging with you as you obviously just grab random sentences which are unrelated to facts.
As I have always said, it will be 10 years before we start to really see brexit benefits, unfortunately Global events interrupted and they’re for it maybe a few years have to be added.


CivicDuties

4,833 posts

31 months

Thursday 18th April
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Amateurish said:
Killboy said:
Will Labour then be blamed for why Brexit continues to be a failure?
You know it.

Who wants to take bets when the first person will blame an incoming Labour govt for the failure to make Brexit work?

Within the first month of their administration?
I'd like to see something akin to their manifesto pledges on Brexit at the last election. It was a pretty sensible approach. Shame it's too late for this approach this time.

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-labours-manifes...

Jinx

11,406 posts

261 months

Thursday 18th April
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GetCarter said:
87% of under 25s want to rejoin the EU.

They got completely screwed, so I understand why.
Or this is just a measure of the anti-brexit message across social media platforms.

CivicDuties

4,833 posts

31 months

Thursday 18th April
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This can't be right. That nice, posh Mr Rees-Mogg told us leaving the EU would make food cheaper.

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/brexit/postpone-brexit...

He couldn't have been talking out of his backside, could he? Shirley not.

andymadmak

14,634 posts

271 months

Thursday 18th April
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Jinx said:
GetCarter said:
87% of under 25s want to rejoin the EU.

They got completely screwed, so I understand why.
Or this is just a measure of the anti-brexit message across social media platforms.
They might change their tune if they are told what it might cost and what those costs might mean to them/their families

andymadmak

14,634 posts

271 months

Thursday 18th April
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CivicDuties said:
This can't be right. That nice, posh Mr Rees-Mogg told us leaving the EU would make food cheaper.

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/brexit/postpone-brexit...

He couldn't have been talking out of his backside, could he? Shirley not.
I know it's a thread diversion, and I apologise for being pernickety, but it's "surely" not shirley.


(I do get a teensy bit triggered by this hehe )

Mortarboard

5,776 posts

56 months

Thursday 18th April
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andymadmak said:
I know it's a thread diversion, and I apologise for being pernickety, but it's "surely" not shirley.


(I do get a teensy bit triggered by this hehe )
https://youtu.be/ixljWVyPby0?si=MnxzgMskhhDJq2zu

M.

CivicDuties

4,833 posts

31 months

Thursday 18th April
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andymadmak said:
CivicDuties said:
This can't be right. That nice, posh Mr Rees-Mogg told us leaving the EU would make food cheaper.

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/brexit/postpone-brexit...

He couldn't have been talking out of his backside, could he? Shirley not.
I know it's a thread diversion, and I apologise for being pernickety, but it's "surely" not shirley.


(I do get a teensy bit triggered by this hehe )
I do know that, it just seems appropriate to use a joke from a movie which belongs to the "Comedy Farce" genre when speaking about Brexit.

crankedup5

9,692 posts

36 months

Thursday 18th April
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‘Shirley’ it was a funny joke 24 years ago, I prefer the film ‘Blazing Saddles’ and always now associate the farty camp fire scene as part of an imaginary EU negotiation round. smile
Childish I know.

CivicDuties

4,833 posts

31 months

Thursday 18th April
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crankedup5 said:
‘Shirley’ it was a funny joke 24 years ago, I prefer the film ‘Blazing Saddles’ and always now associate the farty camp fire scene as part of an imaginary EU negotiation round. smile
Childish I know.
I thought you Brexit fans loved all the stuff from the 70's (OK, 1980 in this case, suppose it's a bit modern for you). There's no pleasing some people.

angel


Nomme de Plum

4,698 posts

17 months

Thursday 18th April
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Mortarboard said:
andymadmak said:
I know it's a thread diversion, and I apologise for being pernickety, but it's "surely" not shirley.


(I do get a teensy bit triggered by this hehe )
https://youtu.be/ixljWVyPby0?si=MnxzgMskhhDJq2zu

M.
Brilliant. The old ones are the best.

andymadmak

14,634 posts

271 months

Thursday 18th April
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CivicDuties said:
I do know that, it just seems appropriate to use a joke from a movie which belongs to the "Comedy Farce" genre when speaking about Brexit.
Airplane was a comedy?????? I thought it was a documentary!

crankedup5

9,692 posts

36 months

Thursday 18th April
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CivicDuties said:
crankedup5 said:
‘Shirley’ it was a funny joke 24 years ago, I prefer the film ‘Blazing Saddles’ and always now associate the farty camp fire scene as part of an imaginary EU negotiation round. smile
Childish I know.
I thought you Brexit fans loved all the stuff from the 70's (OK, 1980 in this case, suppose it's a bit modern for you). There's no pleasing some people.

angel
People who lived through that time as teenagers or adults each will have different stories from the era. Some good / some bad, as always a mixed bag of good fortune or plain bad luck.
My favourite film during my lifetime is ‘The Great Escape’ a 1963 film. The courageous and resourceful men who refused to be penned in. The film title has a certain resonance to it smile Although ‘Blazing Saddles’ runs it close, a 1974 film.
Modern drama, I am a fan of ‘Peaky Blinders’.

Apologies for being off topic.

crankedup5

9,692 posts

36 months

Thursday 18th April
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andymadmak said:
CivicDuties said:
I do know that, it just seems appropriate to use a joke from a movie which belongs to the "Comedy Farce" genre when speaking about Brexit.
Airplane was a comedy?????? I thought it was a documentary!
Superb rofl
easy jet.

don'tbesilly

13,940 posts

164 months

Thursday 18th April
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crankedup5 said:
andymadmak said:
CivicDuties said:
I do know that, it just seems appropriate to use a joke from a movie which belongs to the "Comedy Farce" genre when speaking about Brexit.
Airplane was a comedy?????? I thought it was a documentary!
Superb rofl
easy jet.
EasyJet?

I thought they’d gone bust when they along with other airlines were going to be grounded because of Brexit. hehe

Nissan left Sunderland at least 15 times & miraculously came back, Airbus along with BMW & Rolls Royce were leaving & Canary Wharf was going to be a nature reserve after everyone moved to Frankfurt.

The only constant in nearly 8 years is the share price in Kimberly Clark, with a major shareholder (4% apparently) living & working in the US. hehe


Mortarboard

5,776 posts

56 months

Thursday 18th April
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"Only" 44% of financial firms have or planned to move some or all of their operations....
https://www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2022/03/ey-financial...

Nope, not a disaster at all...

"Dude, where's my 1.3 trn...."

hehe

M.

Dixy

2,936 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th April
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GetCarter said:
87% of under 25s want to rejoin the EU.

They got completely screwed, so I understand why.
That would be all the ones who could not be arsed to go and vote, if all the under 25s who could vote had voted stay we would still be members.