Sunday Times & C4 due to drop a big story [Russell Brand]
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: If your mum or sister and mum and cousin all come and tell you your best mate did to them the things people have alleged Brand has done to them and your best mate is interviewed under caution (several times) I'm guessing that you don't say "well there hasn't been a court case so I'm off for a pint with him tonight" do you?
Even if you think your best mate is a "bit of a git".
I've been in a situation not dissimilar from what you describe when things involved a mate.Even if you think your best mate is a "bit of a git".
The difference is that I was able to spend time working out the truth and not relying on what I read in newspapers.
I safely concluded that my mate was "a bit of a git". My view on Brand is that I have to look at his alleged behaviour through a different lens and accept that without evidence I may be a victim of my own bias. I've always regarded him as an irritating w
ker, which is not the best starting point for judging someone.The bigger picture for me is that I really dislike the prevalent pitchfork mob mentality. I've also seen too many wrongful convictions so it takes a lot for me to totally write someone off with confidence.
Edited by Unreal on Sunday 28th April 12:14
popeyewhite said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I think anyone who still thinks he's a top bloke because he hasn't been found guilty of anything by a court has stty judgement.
You've provided a very clear and accurate example of irony. Well done.tty judgement.bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Douglas Quaid said:
Are you directing this at anyone in particular or just sending it out to the world in general?
I think anyone who still thinks he's a top bloke because he hasn't been found guilty of anything by a court has stty judgement.Not sure I could have been much clearer.
My first post on the Schofield thread was this.
Also worth mentioning one very significant difference is the quantity and nature of accusations against Brand plus the Police involvement.
The two situations aren't at all similar IMO.
I said:
There doesn't seem to be much in the way of solid fact out there but when his agency drop him that quick and his defence seems to be "it wasn't illegal" it does seem to open a can of worms around safeguarding and balance of power etc.
Along with calling his behaviour "grubby" in subsequent posts I think that's pretty consistent with not needing a criminal trial to form an opinion of the bloke.Also worth mentioning one very significant difference is the quantity and nature of accusations against Brand plus the Police involvement.
The two situations aren't at all similar IMO.
Stewie - when are you going to start a thread with the recent going on's within Hollywood? Seems like it wasnt only Weinstein and P-Diddy being naughty but Biebers meant to have been passed about abit....
I know you love the random websites but it doesnt seem to have broken msm headlines (yet)
I know you love the random websites but it doesnt seem to have broken msm headlines (yet)
Ridgemont said:
OzzyR1 said:
That said, in a way I admire the level of utter bulls**t he is capable of and combined with his personality, think he is quite capable of gathering a cult following if he goes down a religious route as a self-declared leader and mouthpiece.
Uhuh. And then you said.you said:
In 2024, the amount of people still prepared go to war and kill others on behalf of their chosen belief system is crazy to me.
The last hundred years has been non-stop tech advancement compared to centuries before, but millions live their lives according to texts which are by their own admission, several hundred if not thousands of years old.
Oh well.The last hundred years has been non-stop tech advancement compared to centuries before, but millions live their lives according to texts which are by their own admission, several hundred if not thousands of years old.
And then:
you said:
If I had the fairytale 3 genie wishes, one would be to remove religion from the world and erase any previous memory of it.
Caused too many wars already.
Remind me how many deaths the famed atheists Stalin, Hitler and Mao Zedung were responsible for…Caused too many wars already.
Ever thought that mass murder maybe a psychopathic human condition?
What are your thoughts?
Will be interesting to see what happens with Brand Reading the full rap sheet it does look like he's likely to be charged eventually.
No doubt some of his behavior was pretty poor back in the day but then I listened to a podcast with Andrew Sachs grand daughter who did have a relationship with him and she didn't have a bad word for him. He even paid for her a stint in rehab years after they were together. In some ways there's no doubt he's a good guy. He has definitely lost his way with all the conspiracy theory stuff which is a shame. He was genuinely funny and authentically edgy in his day. The Saturday morning show him and Ross did was of it's time but brilliant.
I think having had and then lost Katy Perry should be sufficient punishment in itself I mean that's got to haunt him every day.
No doubt some of his behavior was pretty poor back in the day but then I listened to a podcast with Andrew Sachs grand daughter who did have a relationship with him and she didn't have a bad word for him. He even paid for her a stint in rehab years after they were together. In some ways there's no doubt he's a good guy. He has definitely lost his way with all the conspiracy theory stuff which is a shame. He was genuinely funny and authentically edgy in his day. The Saturday morning show him and Ross did was of it's time but brilliant.
I think having had and then lost Katy Perry should be sufficient punishment in itself I mean that's got to haunt him every day.
fridaypassion said:
Will be interesting to see what happens with Brand Reading the full rap sheet it does look like he's likely to be charged eventually.
No doubt some of his behavior was pretty poor back in the day but then I listened to a podcast with Andrew Sachs grand daughter who did have a relationship with him and she didn't have a bad word for him. He even paid for her a stint in rehab years after they were together. In some ways there's no doubt he's a good guy. He has definitely lost his way with all the conspiracy theory stuff which is a shame. He was genuinely funny and authentically edgy in his day. The Saturday morning show him and Ross did was of it's time but brilliant.
I think having had and then lost Katy Perry should be sufficient punishment in itself I mean that's got to haunt him every day.
I listened to (presumably) the same podcast and that wasn't the impression I got. What I heard was a damaged young woman defending her bad decisions and those that enabled and encouraged her to make them.No doubt some of his behavior was pretty poor back in the day but then I listened to a podcast with Andrew Sachs grand daughter who did have a relationship with him and she didn't have a bad word for him. He even paid for her a stint in rehab years after they were together. In some ways there's no doubt he's a good guy. He has definitely lost his way with all the conspiracy theory stuff which is a shame. He was genuinely funny and authentically edgy in his day. The Saturday morning show him and Ross did was of it's time but brilliant.
I think having had and then lost Katy Perry should be sufficient punishment in itself I mean that's got to haunt him every day.
PRO5T said:
fridaypassion said:
Will be interesting to see what happens with Brand Reading the full rap sheet it does look like he's likely to be charged eventually.
No doubt some of his behavior was pretty poor back in the day but then I listened to a podcast with Andrew Sachs grand daughter who did have a relationship with him and she didn't have a bad word for him. He even paid for her a stint in rehab years after they were together. In some ways there's no doubt he's a good guy. He has definitely lost his way with all the conspiracy theory stuff which is a shame. He was genuinely funny and authentically edgy in his day. The Saturday morning show him and Ross did was of it's time but brilliant.
I think having had and then lost Katy Perry should be sufficient punishment in itself I mean that's got to haunt him every day.
I listened to (presumably) the same podcast and that wasn't the impression I got. What I heard was a damaged young woman defending her bad decisions and those that enabled and encouraged her to make them.No doubt some of his behavior was pretty poor back in the day but then I listened to a podcast with Andrew Sachs grand daughter who did have a relationship with him and she didn't have a bad word for him. He even paid for her a stint in rehab years after they were together. In some ways there's no doubt he's a good guy. He has definitely lost his way with all the conspiracy theory stuff which is a shame. He was genuinely funny and authentically edgy in his day. The Saturday morning show him and Ross did was of it's time but brilliant.
I think having had and then lost Katy Perry should be sufficient punishment in itself I mean that's got to haunt him every day.
My take was brand had paid her rehab through guilt or for good PR. Given his intelligence and general lack of empathy, I think it’s the latter. Even if it was for the long game.
DuncanM said:
Getting a 16 year old picked up from school, and driven to your home for sex, nicknaming her "the child", at 30 years old, utterly vile.
I write that as someone who has enjoyed his past stuff, the rest could possibly be written off as buyers remorse, but not that.
Quite agree. If you go on the Huw Edwards thread there's plenty of people who will argue "it's not illegal" so ok for Huw. Same on the Schofield thread. Then they'll be on here frothing. I write that as someone who has enjoyed his past stuff, the rest could possibly be written off as buyers remorse, but not that.
DuncanM said:
Getting a 16 year old picked up from school, and driven to your home for sex, nicknaming her "the child", at 30 years old, utterly vile.
I write that as someone who has enjoyed his past stuff, the rest could possibly be written off as buyers remorse, but not that.
Nicer than letting her get the bus though.I write that as someone who has enjoyed his past stuff, the rest could possibly be written off as buyers remorse, but not that.
fridaypassion said:
I listened to a podcast with Andrew Sachs grand daughter who did have a relationship with him and she didn't have a bad word for him. He even paid for her a stint in rehab years after they were together.
Apparently Brand has also donated to women's charities, a move considered by some on here akin to a signed confession...DuncanM said:
Getting a 16 year old picked up from school, and driven to your home for sex, nicknaming her "the child", at 30 years old, utterly vile.
I write that as someone who has enjoyed his past stuff, the rest could possibly be written off as buyers remorse, but not that.
Wow. I didn’t know that.I write that as someone who has enjoyed his past stuff, the rest could possibly be written off as buyers remorse, but not that.
I’m not asking this to be contrary, but is the above verified / legit, or just a rumour?
When Brand was 30, was he already a celeb?
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