Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

Farage didn’t succeed in getting elected as an MP but he was spectacularly successful at getting us out of the EU. Brexit would never have happened without him.

No doubt about you with your superfluous apostrophe.

This is PH professor, grammar counts double to total ignorance.

No a realist.

We're out but the majority of the public also think it's going very badly.

Not worshipping at the altar of "just believe more" doesn't make me a "remoaner".

You're probably not wrong but at the end of the day it comes down to resources and cash. Where is it coming from? Till we answer that we can complain all we like but it won't fix anything.

Nice attempt at a save. Shame about the complete lack of appropriate historical context.

There wasn't full suffrage before WW1. Not even full male suffrage. There was no 'voter base' for Labour because the (large) part of the population that were in the labour movement couldn't vote. That was one of the things they were organising to change. There was no such single thing as 'The Labour Party' until after WW1 - before that it was a confederation of organisations, unions and various flavours of left-wing political parties. No one was saying that Labour was a wasted vote because most people who leaned Labour didn't have a vote to waste.

Even so, and despite their core demographic being largely excluded from the vote, the group that sat as 'Labour' in the Commons passed their first legislation in 1906, had over 40 MPs in 1910 - just a decade after the Labour Representation Committee had been formed - and had thousands of municipal and civic councillors and representatives across the country.

And all those organisations that made up (and would become part of) the Labour Party in the 1920s were part of - and aimed to represent - the huge organised labour movement of trade unions, friendly societies, co-operatives, mutuals, associations and progress organisations that counted millions of members.

Labour as a parliamentary party was the culmination of about a century of activity, not the starting point. And it grew out of an entirely new part of the population (the educated industrial working class) and aimed to add their representation to the existing system. Reform (et. al) are organisations that see themselves as the root of a project, not the flower (think why the Labour symbol is a rose...) and grow out of the manure of a collapsing political consensus.

Nobody wants to demonise genuinely sick people (whatever the cause) and I agree with you that lumping all these people together as freeloaders is not helpful, because they are not. Equally, I don't think there is any doubt they are not all sick either.

Its the same breed of shyster that steals the charity collection cans of a shop counter that decides they are happy to have the rest of us support them. When looking for a way to make that happen claiming mental health issues has become the easy and almost unchallengable way to do it.

The worst part of that is that people who do this are stealing much needed resources from those that really need them.

But no doubt some people have genuine mental health issues and we need to find them and look after them.

However, there are others that need to get some perspective and toughen up a bit if they expect to be functioning adults. Maybe they do need a bit of help to get going but equally they need to understand that nobody owes them a living.

Undoubtedly then some of them are shysters and they are basically stealing from the rest of society.

It was ever thus but I don't think there is any doubt that the increased awareness about mental health is being taken advantage of.

Our (collective) problem is how to stop that both to redirect resources where they are really needed and then to get a reasonable contribution to society from those that have just decided they'd rather have a free ride.

I really don’t think you’re the last word in grammar, but carry on flailing. It must be tough when even those sympathetic to your cause shy away, how sad.

Impossible to suggest what she might do, one possibility would be a work from home job.
Mental health treatment has been the cinderella service of the NHS certainly over the past 50 years.

I had exactly the same situation addressed to me when I make spelling or grammar errors. The only difference between our examples is that the comments came from each group that hold opposite political views.