Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
Discussion
crankedup5 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
smn159 said:
crankedup5 said:
I think that we have different politics and perspectives 
Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why you are so wiling to give these clowns a free pass.Do you not value a degree of competence, honesty and, well, basic literacy in those who you would want to represent you?
Labour and Tory have failed the Country over the past 50 years. That’s a strong reason not to vote for another round of deeper failure, and you talk about competency, honesty literacy
You're just upset because you believed the bulls
t from a known bullstter and now like a spoilt child can't admit that the party and people you were so convinced were the answer were in fact bullstters all along. You are now doubling down on the stupidity by declaring your undying love for a different bunch of bullstters and chancers.Drop the overbearing arrogance telling me how I feel and what I think. Why do you and your ilk always fall back on this idiotic nonsense.
Also, it's good to see Farage getting kicked out of a far right conference in Brussels. What could possibly be attracting people to Reform?
Oh it is certainly pure arrogance coming from your keyboard, maybe you don’t even realise how arrogant your posts read.
I'll continue to post criticism of Reform, their paper thin & ill thought out policies and continue to highlight the kind of people who are intending to stand for the party at the next election thanks. If you don't like me highlighting that reform seems to be attractive to the far right, and that the party seems to be incapable of identifying them before taking their money then that's hardly my fault.
768 said:
Farage saying he'll make a decision on Reform in the next few weeks.
Seems those Brussels mayors have managed to boost his profile this week.
People have aleady made up their minds about Farage, they either love him or loathe him - so this event won't move the needle on the dial very much.Seems those Brussels mayors have managed to boost his profile this week.
The bigger story is that Braverman continues to flirt with the NatCs and Sunak can't seem to control her illustrating his continued weakness.
tangerine_sedge said:
768 said:
Farage saying he'll make a decision on Reform in the next few weeks.
Seems those Brussels mayors have managed to boost his profile this week.
People have aleady made up their minds about Farage, they either love him or loathe him - so this event won't move the needle on the dial very much.Seems those Brussels mayors have managed to boost his profile this week.
The bigger story is that Braverman continues to flirt with the NatCs and Sunak can't seem to control her illustrating his continued weakness.
Thank goodness for the Brussels courts 
NatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
NatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Thank goodness for the Brussels courts
NatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
What a relief! Let the conference resumeNatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
President Merkin said:
Lol at Braverman whining about her freedom of speech....However, my view is even twottish goose stepping hard right crackpots are entitlted to it. The Mayor guy got it wrong.
Indeed, I'd much rather they indulged in this stuff out in the open than in secret bunkers - let us see them for what they are and hear what they believe in so we can judge them accordingly. Baroque attacks said:
crankedup5 said:
‘We’ ?
Of course you are absolutely entitled to your opinions, as am I,
:shrug shoulders:
My opinion is just formed from news about the types of people Reform is accepting. I’m not exactly taking a massive leap, the hints aren’t cryptic : “vote bnp. and keep the great, in great britian”.Of course you are absolutely entitled to your opinions, as am I,
:shrug shoulders:
Your opinion may be that you like them and their policies - entirely your choice.
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
tangerine_sedge said:
crankedup5 said:
smn159 said:
crankedup5 said:
I think that we have different politics and perspectives
Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why you are so wiling to give these clowns a free pass.Do you not value a degree of competence, honesty and, well, basic literacy in those who you would want to represent you?
Labour and Tory have failed the Country over the past 50 years. That’s a strong reason not to vote for another round of deeper failure, and you talk about competency, honesty literacy
You're just upset because you believed the bulls
t from a known bullstter and now like a spoilt child can't admit that the party and people you were so convinced were the answer were in fact bullstters all along. You are now doubling down on the stupidity by declaring your undying love for a different bunch of bullstters and chancers.Drop the overbearing arrogance telling me how I feel and what I think. Why do you and your ilk always fall back on this idiotic nonsense.
Also, it's good to see Farage getting kicked out of a far right conference in Brussels. What could possibly be attracting people to Reform?
Oh it is certainly pure arrogance coming from your keyboard, maybe you don’t even realise how arrogant your posts read.
I'll continue to post criticism of Reform, their paper thin & ill thought out policies and continue to highlight the kind of people who are intending to stand for the party at the next election thanks. If you don't like me highlighting that reform seems to be attractive to the far right, and that the party seems to be incapable of identifying them before taking their money then that's hardly my fault.
Maybe some of those former interested persons have moderated their political views.
tangerine_sedge said:
768 said:
Farage saying he'll make a decision on Reform in the next few weeks.
Seems those Brussels mayors have managed to boost his profile this week.
People have aleady made up their minds about Farage, they either love him or loathe him - so this event won't move the needle on the dial very much.Seems those Brussels mayors have managed to boost his profile this week.
The bigger story is that Braverman continues to flirt with the NatCs and Sunak can't seem to control her illustrating his continued weakness.
thetapeworm said:
President Merkin said:
Lol at Braverman whining about her freedom of speech....However, my view is even twottish goose stepping hard right crackpots are entitlted to it. The Mayor guy got it wrong.
Indeed, I'd much rather they indulged in this stuff out in the open than in secret bunkers - let us see them for what they are and hear what they believe in so we can judge them accordingly. smn159 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Thank goodness for the Brussels courts
NatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
What a relief! Let the conference resumeNatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
S600BSB said:
smn159 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Thank goodness for the Brussels courts
NatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
What a relief! Let the conference resumeNatCon conference to resume after Brussels court overturns closure order
smn159 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Yes Cranked and isn't it funny how you only seem to have had this epiphany having pinned all your hopes to Brexit only to watch it turn to st at which point you'll eagerly vote for the next bunch of populists who tell you they can make it work.
Talk about malleable.
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick. You don't seriously believe they are going to deliver on their promises do you? If you do, you must have been off the planet for the last 50 years.t at which point you'll eagerly vote for the next bunch of populists who tell you they can make it work.Talk about malleable.
Just maybe the country can start having more grown up conversations about things once some actual grown ups are in charge.
In any case, it's either Labour or it's continue as we are, so it's a bit of a no-brainer - unless of course you're happy with the infantilisation of the national conversation under the Tory / Reform agenda, in which case crack on.
smn159 said:
crankedup5 said:
I think that we have different politics and perspectives
Maybe, but that still doesn't explain why you are so wiling to give these clowns a free pass.Do you not value a degree of competence, honesty and, well, basic literacy in those who you would want to represent you?
TTwiggy said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick.
They really are not. Most of what they've said is couched in terms of 'what's possible in the current economic climate'. On other threads they are being criticised for not promising anything much at all.
crankedup5 said:
The Tories are dead ducks walking, those leaning on the Right of the Tory Party are clearly weighing up their best options that will megaphone their agenda. At one stage recently the tittle tattle was Braverman , Patel and others welcoming Farage into the Tory Party. Right now the questions seems to be will those Tories jump ship and follow Lee Anderson.
It's a dark time for the RoC elements in UK politics; instead of holding things together as defeat approaches, as per 1997, there's Monty Python style splintering on the right of the spectrum. That's not healthy for our politics as the centrist/LoC side of things have got there house well in order, in as much as they're ever able to. If there isn't a reconsolidation on the right we'll be heading for a period, possibly longer than 97-10, in which Labour dominate politics without serious challenge.
Fingers crossed its a case of post-defeat catharsis starting early; the trouble makers will spin-off into their own cliquey self-made wildernesses and those who want to be in the tent will learn how to p1ss outwards.
Killboy said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Labour are currently promising the moon on a stick. You don't seriously believe they are going to deliver on their promises do you? If you do, you must have been off the planet for the last 50 years.
What moon-sticks are they offering? I've just looked at their missions and it seems alright?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff