Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?
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valiant said:
crankedup5 said:
Disagree, Reform U.K. will be a breath of much needed fresh air through Parliament.
The nearest any Reform member will get to Parliament after the GE will be the Visitors’ Gallery…valiant said:
crankedup5 said:
Disagree, Reform U.K. will be a breath of much needed fresh air through Parliament.
The nearest any Reform member will get to Parliament after the GE will be the Visitors’ Gallery…Although Lee Anderson may retain his Seat?
crankedup5 said:
Of course, I’ve always said that Reform U.K. will be lucky to gather even a small handful of Parliamentary seats. That’s a given unfortunately, looking at the other contenders such as Lib Dem & Greens we all know that our election system does not allow for other contenders to Conservative / Labour.
Although Lee Anderson may retain his Seat?
As shocking as you might find it I agree.Although Lee Anderson may retain his Seat?
We all know how biased the election system is. I agree with you on that.
crankedup5 said:
valiant said:
crankedup5 said:
Disagree, Reform U.K. will be a breath of much needed fresh air through Parliament.
The nearest any Reform member will get to Parliament after the GE will be the Visitors’ Gallery…Although Lee Anderson may retain his Seat?
Is there any reason to suppose Reform will bring people into politics that would be any different from the fruitloops that Ukip brought in?
cheesejunkie said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
I'm curious. What party have they aligned with? The DUP would be my guess.
TUV. The TUV think the DUP are traitors. It would be funny if it wasn’t reality.I remember David Ervine from the PUP. Was a refreshingly honest politician I thought. A realist in his time. Has to diffuse his own bomb didn't he?
heebeegeetee said:
crankedup5 said:
valiant said:
crankedup5 said:
Disagree, Reform U.K. will be a breath of much needed fresh air through Parliament.
The nearest any Reform member will get to Parliament after the GE will be the Visitors’ Gallery…Although Lee Anderson may retain his Seat?
Is there any reason to suppose Reform will bring people into politics that would be any different from the fruitloops that Ukip brought in?
I. believe that the Party will mature and become more credible to a wider selection of the electorate over a period of a couple of Parliaments becoming the third Party of choice.
‘Fruit loops’ have been a feature in every political party for decades, it’s just that those in ones chosen favoured Party is forgiven and brushed under the carpet.
Jordie Barretts sock said:
cheesejunkie said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
I'm curious. What party have they aligned with? The DUP would be my guess.
TUV. The TUV think the DUP are traitors. It would be funny if it wasn’t reality.I remember David Ervine from the PUP. Was a refreshingly honest politician I thought. A realist in his time. Has to diffuse his own bomb didn't he?
Being "aligned" with TUV should be a warning that your politics are about as fringe as it gets!
M.
Mortarboard said:
Had a pint with David Ervine (rip) a couple of months after the gfa was signed. Very impressive individual. Certainly more forgiving than I would be capable of, that's for sure.
Being "aligned" with TUV should be a warning that your politics are about as fringe as it gets!
M.
I’ve had pints with east Belfast men who remember his less peace making days and wouldn’t put a good word in for him on that basis. I think he did turn a corner but I’m not that side of the house so never paid all that much attention to him back then.Being "aligned" with TUV should be a warning that your politics are about as fringe as it gets!
M.
Reform aligning with the TUV is bloody depressing. Obviously I’m not their target voter but way to make enemies and influence people.
bad company said:
President Merkin said:
Er.... Reform's policy position is net zero immigration. You're not seriously contemplating voting for a party whose policy documents you haven't bothered to read are you?
Clear enough:-https://www.reformparty.uk/immigration
"Pick up Migrants out of Boats and Take Back to France. (We are legally allowed to do this under international treaties)."
Not sure Reform have read the international treaties. Before a certain poster post a links to France accepting back Albanians he need to understand Albanians have a legal right to be in France for up to 90 days.
Mrr T said:
bad company said:
President Merkin said:
Er.... Reform's policy position is net zero immigration. You're not seriously contemplating voting for a party whose policy documents you haven't bothered to read are you?
Clear enough:-https://www.reformparty.uk/immigration
"Pick up Migrants out of Boats and Take Back to France. (We are legally allowed to do this under international treaties)."
Not sure Reform have read the international treaties. Before a certain poster post a links to France accepting back Albanians he need to understand Albanians have a legal right to be in France for up to 90 days.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/is-turning-ba...
crankedup5 said:
Mr Anderson is but one person in Reform U.K. For a balanced view you need to look at the Party policy proposals. It is that which I base my opinion of ‘change’ on.
I. believe that the Party will mature and become more credible to a wider selection of the electorate over a period of a couple of Parliaments becoming the third Party of choice.
‘Fruit loops’ have been a feature in every political party for decades, it’s just that those in ones chosen favoured Party is forgiven and brushed under the carpet.
You do seem to place enormous belief in what people tell you without doing any thinking. Reform promise to cut taxes. To do that there must be spending cuts. They also promise to eliminate NHS waiting lists. This requires a vast amount of money which can only be raised by increasing tax. They are promising you things which by definition are mutually exclusive. Does that not concern you?I. believe that the Party will mature and become more credible to a wider selection of the electorate over a period of a couple of Parliaments becoming the third Party of choice.
‘Fruit loops’ have been a feature in every political party for decades, it’s just that those in ones chosen favoured Party is forgiven and brushed under the carpet.
Mrr T said:
You do seem to place enormous belief in what people tell you without doing any thinking. Reform promise to cut taxes. To do that there must be spending cuts. They also promise to eliminate NHS waiting lists. This requires a vast amount of money which can only be raised by increasing tax. They are promising you things which by definition are mutually exclusive. Does that not concern you?
That’s the right of parties with no chance of being elected.bad company said:
Mrr T said:
You do seem to place enormous belief in what people tell you without doing any thinking. Reform promise to cut taxes. To do that there must be spending cuts. They also promise to eliminate NHS waiting lists. This requires a vast amount of money which can only be raised by increasing tax. They are promising you things which by definition are mutually exclusive. Does that not concern you?
That’s the right of parties with no chance of being elected.smn159 said:
bad company said:
Mrr T said:
You do seem to place enormous belief in what people tell you without doing any thinking. Reform promise to cut taxes. To do that there must be spending cuts. They also promise to eliminate NHS waiting lists. This requires a vast amount of money which can only be raised by increasing tax. They are promising you things which by definition are mutually exclusive. Does that not concern you?
That’s the right of parties with no chance of being elected.bad company said:
They’ll get a lot of votes but very few if any seats. That’s a lot of people to call idiots but perhaps you know that you’re more intelligent than all of them.
Maybe. From what I've seen so far intelligence doesn't seem to figure highly on their criteria for candidates.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff