Michaela School - court case

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Pickled Piper

6,342 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Further case incoming from the same family. Apparently, relating to another aspect of the school the mother does not agree with.

JagLover

42,426 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Pickled Piper said:
Further case incoming from the same family. Apparently, relating to another aspect of the school the mother does not agree with.
Why not if it is the taxpayer picking up the tab?

Yet another example of a broken system.

Electro1980

8,299 posts

139 months

Wednesday 17th April
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What do people expect legal aid to do? Judge the case before it is tried? Whether you agree with the case or not (I don’t, having read the judgment) people still have a right to legal representation. You can’t have a system where only those who can afford it can access the legal system. It’s not broken just because you don’t agree or because it was lost. If it had no merit it would have not got as far as it did. Clearly the case had a legal basis, even if it was eventually found the school was acting legally, as it got to a full court hearing.

768

13,686 posts

96 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Electro1980 said:
What do people expect legal aid to do? Judge the case before it is tried?
Already has restrictions. Legal aid does not cover all types of problem.

Sheets Tabuer

18,966 posts

215 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Bugger me, couldn't get legal aid when the ex stopped me seeing my child but they can have 150k to fight when they knew all along there was a prayer ban before they enrolled.

Zarco

17,874 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Pickled Piper said:
Further case incoming from the same family. Apparently, relating to another aspect of the school the mother does not agree with.
And she is planning to send another child to the school.

Beggars belief.

gruffalo

7,525 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Can theschool expell the child and refuse any further of her children a place based on her be?


bitchstewie

51,280 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Why on earth would you want the child expelled?

lord trumpton

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7,405 posts

126 months

Wednesday 17th April
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bhstewie said:
Why on earth would you want the child expelled?
Because her family are 'trouble' by the sounds of it. Let them go play trouble elsewhere, or maybe take their child to a faith school if that is so important to them.

valiant

10,241 posts

160 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Bugger me, couldn't get legal aid when the ex stopped me seeing my child but they can have 150k to fight when they knew all along there was a prayer ban before they enrolled.
I think the legal aid angle is because of the much wider repercussions of the decision of the judges.

This decision affects schools up and down the land and sets a precedent for schools going forward so maybe that’s why legal aid was granted? Being a test case will often attract legal aid as everyone from the state to the individual seeks clarification on the law.

Countdown

39,916 posts

196 months

Wednesday 17th April
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gruffalo said:
Can theschool expell the child and refuse any further of her children a place based on her be?
No. It's a State funded school so they will have to comply with DfE policies.

Goaty Bill 2

3,414 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th April
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For anyone unfamiliar with the full circumstances Katharine Birbalsingh gives a comprehensive description of events in her interview with Triggernometry

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The issue under discussion here is pretty much fully covered by the half way point but the remainder of the interview is also quite interesting...




QuickQuack

2,205 posts

101 months

Wednesday 17th April
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gruffalo said:
Can theschool expell the child and refuse any further of her children a place based on her be?
lord trumpton said:
bhstewie said:
Why on earth would you want the child expelled?
Because her family are 'trouble' by the sounds of it. Let them go play trouble elsewhere, or maybe take their child to a faith school if that is so important to them.
Agreed. Vexatious complainants should be told to f*** off elsewhere, and further children from the same family definitely shouldn't be allowed into the same school. Anybody who believes in sky fairies with such fervour is a moron. Besides, Islam specifically allows prayers to be missed then caught up later in the day, so the 5 times a day prayer thing doesn't have to be as strict as some of these aholes make it out to be; they clearly just want to cause trouble.

Billy_Rosewood

3,106 posts

164 months

Wednesday 17th April
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I'm surprised they didn't manage to find some sort of private funding.

This is a good outcome however. Although I'm somewhat religious myself, I don't want it in schools.

s1962a

5,323 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th April
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lord trumpton said:
bhstewie said:
Why on earth would you want the child expelled?
Because her family are 'trouble' by the sounds of it. Let them go play trouble elsewhere, or maybe take their child to a faith school if that is so important to them.
I suspect it's this. I don't know of any muslim parents that would go to this extent and take a school to court over a prayer ban during school hours. Move your kids to another school if you don't like their policies on being fully secular.


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39,916 posts

196 months

Wednesday 17th April
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s1962a said:
I suspect it's this. I don't know of any muslim parents that would go to this extent and take a school to court over a prayer ban during school hours. Move your kids to another school if you don't like their policies on being fully secular.
Indeed. It's bonkers. if religious education was that important to them there are plenty of islamic schools around.

zax

1,009 posts

263 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Countdown said:
s1962a said:
I suspect it's this. I don't know of any muslim parents that would go to this extent and take a school to court over a prayer ban during school hours. Move your kids to another school if you don't like their policies on being fully secular.
Indeed. It's bonkers. if religious education was that important to them there are plenty of islamic schools around.
It does seem like this particular set of parents have an agenda and are using their kids to achieve it. I feel sorry for the kids.

bitchstewie

51,280 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th April
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s1962a said:
I suspect it's this. I don't know of any muslim parents that would go to this extent and take a school to court over a prayer ban during school hours. Move your kids to another school if you don't like their policies on being fully secular.
I tend to agree with the point about send your kids to another school if you don't like Michaela especially given it sounds like those were the rules when the child started there so it's not exactly an unknown or a change of school policy.

I'm not quite comfortable with the idea of expel the kid for the "sins of the parents" though.

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39,916 posts

196 months

Wednesday 17th April
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I'm also surprised THIS is the kind of case where Legal Aid is given???

Type R Tom

3,868 posts

149 months

Wednesday 17th April
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I remember seeing an interview about this school, it's really well regarded, hence why the parent wanted their child there.

Unfortunately, placing yourself in a situation and then demanding others change to accommodate you is pretty common in this country and needs to be stamped out.