Climate Cat out of the Bag? Potentially dynamite revelations

More for the 'real or fake' debate to get chewing on, from WUWT

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The director of Britain’s leading Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, has told Investigate magazine’s TGIF Edition tonight that his organization has been hacked, and the data flying all over the internet appears to be genuine.

In an exclusive interview, Jones told TGIF, “It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and emails.”

“Have you alerted police”

“Not yet. We were not aware of what had been taken.”

Jones says he was first tipped off to the security breach by colleagues at the website RealClimate.

“Real Climate were given information, but took it down off their site and told me they would send it across to me. They didn’t do that. I only found out it had been released five minutes ago.”

Is there any way they can talk their way out of this? Does it just add to the debate, or is it a the final nail?

Can anyone give some kind of executive summary of this shenanigans?!

Unusually for me - not averse to wading into an argument with ill-informed opinion and little intellect - I've generally sat on the sidelines of the many and various PH 'climate' debates.

I think mankind might be consuming resources a little too quickly, this might concievably change climate, and our reliance on oil might just be a politically difficult issue which leads us to be continually held over a barrell (and shafted) by OPEC. But then I also have petrol pumping through my veins and enjoy burning hydrocarbons on behalf of those who live on lentis and drive electric (or clockwork or whatever) cars.

This hack however is a seismic shift in the debate.

There cannot be any scientific explanation for this sort of fudging. Less still by a publicly funded body.

This is fantastic news IMO. From many points of view.

It would appear to be genuine.

Our politicians (from all party's) will have to admit what they've done/said, following on from the expenses scandal this should put them all out to pasture.

as for Copenhagen and the IPCC, well it'll be interesting to see how they spin this.

I'm trying not to get to excited about it yet though, there are too many powerful people and organisations that will do whatever it takes to continue leading the public down this particular path. Don't under-estimate the power of spin.

Seems likely they'll want to "Do A True Believer" and say blah blah then lie low for a while before popping up again as if nothing happened.

If true, this though may be a bit too much for that time-worn twostep.

Yeah, here's hoping. I must say, after the science museums loss with their poll and the number fo complaints the advertiser's got from the CO2 ad campaign. I don't think this could have come at a better time. I do however believe the politicians will wriggle (or at least try to) out of it, saying it was all the scientists fault and they ere just informing us of the scientists findings.


Time will tell I guess, fingers crossed.

however if you wanted to forge some email correspondence, that is just the sort of detail you would put in, using publicly available information, just to add a little verisimilitude. A bit like adding emails from Steve MacInyre, who publishes a lot of his email correspondence with people like Phil Jones anyway. The idea that Phil Jones reads Climate Audit seems a little far fetched if you ask me!

I've just checked the BBC news site and there's nothing on there (surprise, surprise), has anyone seen anything about this on a mainstream news site/channel yet? I'm still looking.

The files suggest that the entire warmist industry read not only CA but other web material. As always you should look at the evidence closely before venturing an opinion, though you are entitled to it.

Loyal to the bitter end eh?