Climate Cat out of the Bag? Potentially dynamite revelations

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I’m currently traveling and writing this from an aiprort, but here is what I know so far:

An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertsied an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:

We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps.

We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents

The file was large, about 61 megabytes, containing hundreds of files.

It contained data, code, and emails from Phil Jones at CRU to and from many people.

I’ve seen the file, it appears to be genuine and from CRU. Others who have seen it concur- it appears genuine. There are so many files it appears unlikely that it is a hoax. The effort would be too great.

Here is some of the emails just posted at Climate Audit on this thread:

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7801#comments

I’ve redacted email addresses and direct phone numbers for the moment. The emails all have US public universities in the email addresses, making them public/FOIA actionable I beleive.

Developing story – more later

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If this story turns out to be on the money - as Watts says the effort to produce something artificial would appear far too great while the content is too detailed and credible - there will be more than sticks in pieces from today.

Click the link below to a small portion of the e-mails and files reportedly released from UEA CRU by a hacker. This is potentially explosive. There is content involving Jones, Osborn, Briffa, Mann, Bradely, Hughes, alleging content and messages with e.g.:

- pleasure at the tragic and untimely death of climate realist 'Still Waiting for Greenhouse' John Daly "In an odd way this is cheering news !"

- using "Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline"

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-new...


Who knows how this will evolve.

As the last thread was closed I'll add my comment here as well.

Not had time to read it all, but does make for very interesting reading indeed.......oh dearnice find.

Wonder how long it will take before certain people go missing.

Exactly my approach, you will see "if true" and "due caution" in my posts on this thread, and although I have the full file on disk I'm only posting direct comments from others.

Steve McIntyre has confirmed that the e-mails in the hacked content purportedly from him, e-mails that he previously sent to those implicated, are "100% genuine".

So, watch this space.

for once I agree with Guam, in full, without the need for the , especially about the bit I have highlighted, a healthy scientific debate is required and if a hoax, this will be a spectacular own goal by the deniers, at the expense of the true sceptics, which would be a bad thing for all concerned.

More caution evident in this response:

http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or...

Click the link to see more content that, if faked, is astonishing

In keeping with the caveat I won't be posting actual file content, my view is that if real this is truly the end of the road but if fake somebody ELSE is going to jail. Some snips below:

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You get to see somebody with the name of Phil Jones say that he would rather destroy the CRU data than release it to McIntyre.

And lots lots more. Including how to obstruct or evade FOIA requests. and guess who funded the collection of cores at Yamal.. and transferred money into a personal account in Russia.

And you get to see what they really say behind the curtain..you get to see how they “shape” the news, how they struggled between telling the truth and making policy makers happy.

You get to see what they say about Idso and pat micheals, you get to read how they want to take us out into a dark alley, it’s stunning all very stunning. You get to watch somebody named phil jones say that John daly’s death is good news.. or words to that effect.

I don’t know that its real..

But the CRU code looks real