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Countdown
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65 months
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0000 said: You might eat less if they're closed though. Do you mean if you've somehow managed to run out of all food at 4pm on a Sunday? If so Dial-a-Pizza is your friend 
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Rollcage
9,212 posts
61 months
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rix said: You'd think. However I'd take a punt that increased opening hours generally mean an increase of takings over a given week. Not if everybody does it.
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Cock Womble 7
29,908 posts
99 months
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Countdown said: You "consume" the same amount of supermarket produce regardless of the hours they are open. You don't suddenly start eating more/drinking more/using more Fairy Liquid because they're open longer. Quite true, but opening for longer makes it more flexible. People who couldn't go shopping at Midnight on a Sunday - but for whatever reason wanted to - will be able to go shopping at Midnight on a Sunday. I've popped into a Tesco at 0300 on the way home from a night-shift to pick up bread and milk and have seen a couple pushing a full trolley around, clearly doing their weekly/monthly "big shop". Supply. Demand.
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Countdown
6,340 posts
65 months
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rix said: Countdown said:  You "consume" the same amount of supermarket produce regardless of the hours they are open. You dont suddenly start eating more/drinking more/using more fairy Liquid because they're open longer. You'd think. However I'd take a punt that increased opening hours generally mean an increase of takings over a given week. Only if others don't follow suit (AFAICS). Your supermarket spend does not depend on the hours they are open. We do a weekly big shop and a midweek topup. Why would you spend more just because they are open longer? The only thing I can think of is a transfer of spending from 24 hour petrol stations to supermarkets.
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Matt172
11,058 posts
113 months
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It would be extra money; I'd choose to drive an extra 5 minutes to Tesco on a Sunday night over going to the Co Op, think our local Tesco was open til midnight when I looked the other day
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0000
9,319 posts
60 months
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Countdown said: 0000 said: You might eat less if they're closed though. Do you mean if you've somehow managed to run out of all food at 4pm on a Sunday? If so Dial-a-Pizza is your friend Not in the Cotswolds it isn't! 
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king arthur
2,534 posts
130 months
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Cock Womble 7 said: Quite true, but opening for longer makes it more flexible. People who couldn't go shopping at Midnight on a Sunday - but for whatever reason wanted to - will be able to go shopping at Midnight on a Sunday.
I've popped into a Tesco at 0300 on the way home from a night-shift to pick up bread and milk and have seen a couple pushing a full trolley around, clearly doing their weekly/monthly "big shop".
Supply. Demand. Ok but what do you think that couple would do if there were no 24 hour supermarkets? Starve?
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Countdown
6,340 posts
65 months
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Matt172 said: It would be extra money; I'd choose to drive an extra 5 minutes to Tesco on a Sunday night over going to the Co Op, think our local Tesco was open til midnight when I looked the other day HOW would it be extra money ???? Will you somehow be spending MORE on your weekly shopping if opening hours are extended OR is it simply a transfer of money from one supplier to another ? Or a transfer of spending from Sunday 1.00pm to Sunday 6.30pm??
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Robb F
3,838 posts
40 months
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I would buy the ingredients for my lunch at work on Sunday night, but they aren't open when I can get to the supermarket, so I buy lunch at work on a monday and buy lunch from the supermarket for the rest of the week.
Only a tiny loss to the shop obviously, but its a legit reason for them to lose money due to their opening hours. I'm sure there are many more.
Personally, I don't see any reason there should be a law to prevent shops opening whenever they choose.
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hyperblue
2,120 posts
49 months
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I'd wager that they would see an increase in trade from extended opening hours. People don't behave how you might expect. For example, opening a new Starbucks next to an existing one doesn't halve the revenue of the existing outlet.
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Matt172
11,058 posts
113 months
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Countdown said: HOW would it be extra money ????
Will you somehow be spending MORE on your weekly shopping if opening hours are extended OR is it simply a transfer of money from one supplier to another ?
Or a transfer of spending from Sunday 1.00pm to Sunday 6.30pm?? Not talking about a weekly shop, talking about choosing Tesco over Co op, transfer of money from Co Op to Tesco on a Sunday evening, as we always seem to miss the 4pm deadline and end up with something missing for dinner
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Cock Womble 7
29,908 posts
99 months
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king arthur said: OK but what do you think that couple would do if there were no 24 hour supermarkets? Starve? Obviously not. They would shop at a more decent hour. The fact is though, the supermarket chose to be open at 0300 and these people chose to do their shopping at 0300. Like I said, open and they will come.
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Engineer1
7,177 posts
78 months
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Countdown said: Cock Womble 7 said: From the extra custom due to the fact that they're open for longer hours.
Open, and they will come. You "consume" the same amount of supermarket produce regardless of the hours they are open. You dont suddenly start eating more/drinking more/using more fairy Liquid because they're open longer. You may well do, my wife does the food shopping, I might nip to the supermarket and grab some stuff we forgot or some stuff we didn't want or need, hence not being trusted to go to the supermarket for a big shop
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Countdown
6,340 posts
65 months
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Engineer1 said: You may well do, my wife does the food shopping, I might nip to the supermarket and grab some stuff we forgot or some stuff we didn't want or need, hence not being trusted to go to the supermarket for a big shop What do you do at the moment (if the supermarket is shut) ?
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king arthur
2,534 posts
130 months
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Cock Womble 7 said: Obviously not. They would shop at a more decent hour.
The fact is though, the supermarket chose to be open at 0300 and these people chose to do their shopping at 0300.
Like I said, open and they will come. Or, stay shut and they will still come but at a different time. Obviously it doesn't work quite like that otherwise Tesco wouldn't do it, but there's only so much money everyone can spend on grocery shopping and there must come a point at which extra stores and extra opening hours don't generate any extra overall revenue.
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redtwin
5,857 posts
51 months
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Hackney said: They're open for 24 hours on the other 6 days of the week though, so it's hardly a mockery.
Just inkeeping with current Sunday trading laws. And "Open 24 hours except between midnight on Saturday and 10am on Sunday and then again from 4pm until midnight" would need a much bigger sign. It's actually only 4 days that they are open 24 hours. Mockery indeed as I am sure they can afford the extra expense of the bigger sign needed to convey their true opening hours. When I first moved to the UK, the short Sunday shop hours was always an oddity that made no sense. Didn't help that I moved here from a country where many supermarkets were open 24 hours a day...every day, not just the days that didn't start with the letter "S".
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LeeThr
2,343 posts
40 months
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Hackney said: They're open for 24 hours on the other 6 days of the week though, so it's hardly a mockery.
Just inkeeping with current Sunday trading laws. And "Open 24 hours except between midnight on Saturday and 10am on Sunday and then again from 4pm until midnight" would need a much bigger sign. Thats basically whats on the sign of my local tesco which is 24 hours.
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wolves_wanderer
7,945 posts
106 months
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Outstanding. Get rid of the only advantage small shops have  Shops are open 150 hours out of the 168 in a week already, if you can't organise your grocery shopping in that time then youve got bigger problems frankly. I suppose it's a disgrace that they can't open christmas day or easter Sunday either?
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Timsta
2,139 posts
115 months
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wolves_wanderer said: Outstanding. Get rid of the only advantage small shops have Shops are open 150 hours out of the 168 in a week already, if you can't organise your grocery shopping in that time then youve got bigger problems frankly. I suppose it's a disgrace that they can't open christmas day or easter Sunday either? Is there a law that forces the corner shop to close earlier?
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Teppic
4,096 posts
126 months
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Cock Womble 7 said: That's odd. I've got two "24 Hour" Tesco stores near me, both of which close at 1600 on a Sunday - thus making a mockery of their "24 Hour" boast.
I don't understand why they've extended their opening times (if only for a limited period).
Testing the water, perhaps? I've got a 24 Hour Tesco Extra near me that is open from 6am - midnight on Sunday for the duration of the Olympics.
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