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V8mate

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35,296 posts

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I refer, of course, to the phenomenon of MLC.

Is it a (relatively) recent phenomenon, brought about by humans living past their 'work to death by' date? Has the 'material world' exacerbated it?

We all chuckle at the obvious external signs of mid-life crisis, but what's really going on inside the heads of the forty-something brigade? Apart from remortgaging the house to buy a Ferrari, what are the signs people should look out for and at what point should people seek professional help?

And does it get any better after 50? Surely the existential concerns are only becoming further crystallised with the passing of time?

And... why has no-one 'cured' it yet?

Crook

3,551 posts

94 months

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Maybe it just takes 'that' long to work it out?

drivin_me_nuts

13,967 posts

81 months

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Nothing wrong with a good MLC... The debate that has oft passed through my mind is, which is the better option...

the ferrari on the remortgaged house, accompanied with laughter at your male pattern baldness and questions on your virility made by passing strangers, or the twenty something hotty with the bun in the oven, who will give you another chance at fatherhood got right this time... but between now and then, an acrimonious divorce and never-speak-to-me-again teen children.

I suspect that the ferrari might be cheaper, the baby more rewarding but the long term prospects either way involve wallet pain, angst and emotional insecurity.

However, either alternative is better than taking up the laughingly called 'sport' of golf.

PeanutHead

7,555 posts

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You count up towards 40, when you reach it you start to realise yo are now counting down.
That's when the "fk it" mentality comes in, it's not a mid life crises it's just a realisiation that you should be over half way through a bucket list at 40 and that time is running out.

Jessicus

232 posts

16 months

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Surely it is only a recognition that our time on this plane of existence is limited, and therefore if there are experiences which you wish to have, then there is a need to do/experience/have whilst you have the time and health to enjoy these experiences.

On a practical level, during your 20's and 30's a majority of people have more pressing concerns, such as paying out for the mortgage, spending large amounts of financial and emotional capital on relationships/families. It is, for most people, only in their 40's or 50's do they have the combination of relative good health and financial security which allows you to indulge in behaviour which outsiders may consider frivolous or even reckless.

Personally, I've reached this stage a little early, due to illness/disability, so if there is something that I want to do I'll do it. I don't want to have any "if only" regrets - I want to have some good memories.
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Johnnytheboy

7,375 posts

56 months

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I've always thought that - with the exception of the terminally stupid - everyone has something like a MLC at some stage in life, but that it doesn't necessarily happen at the cliched moment.

I think I got mine out of the way in my twenties (I'm 39 now) as I've had that "f*** it" mentality ever since.

Looking around at my friends, most of the ones that were mentally troubled/depressive types in their youth are now far more content than the ones who sailed through their teens and twenties, now IMO more likely to be heading for a MLC down the line.

Marf

22,907 posts

111 months

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Jessicus said:
On a practical level, during your 20's and 30's a majority of people have more pressing concerns, such as paying out for the mortgage, spending large amounts of financial and emotional capital on relationships/families. It is, for most people, only in their 40's or 50's do they have the combination of relative good health and financial security which allows you to indulge in behaviour which outsiders may consider frivolous or even reckless.
Classic example being middle aged guy buys sports car. Morons cry "mid life crisis", whereas in reality MAG has probably paid off his mortgage and can now afford the car he's always wanted.

Whitean3

1,388 posts

68 months

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To me, it's not a Mid-Life Crisis- it's a Mid-Life Celebration. Might as well enjoy life whilst I can.

After years of hard work, finally I might have something to show for it; why not treat myself and my family to something nice/ No point living in abject misery. Been there, done that!

theironduke

6,268 posts

58 months

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V8mate said:


I'm 27 and feel like that ^ quite a lot...

Rude-boy

15,651 posts

103 months

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36.

At this point you start to realise that no longer can ‘youth’ be used to describe you. That those thoughts of if it all turns to st you can go back to uni start to be tempered by the thoughts of “..and I’ll be twice the age of half the girls whose knickers I’d be trying to get into and doubtless be the buck of many a ‘old fart’ joke. That it dawns on you that your body really isn’t as able to take the st you throw/threw at it as it used to be able to.

There is also the realisation that, having made a few mistakes along the way, little holds more truth than the phrase “It is better to regret something you have done, than to regret something you haven’t.”

Is it a crisis though or just another way point in life like the end of your GCSE’s, graduation, etc?

It is only a crisis if it goes wrong biggrin

bigandclever

6,406 posts

108 months

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Richard Herring on being 'over the hill' said:
For the first half of your life, you’re rushing, struggling to climb the knoll – you’re not even looking around you, just desperate to get to the summit to see what’s on the other side. Finally you reach the peak and you get a clear view both ways. Behind you is a lush, fecund valley, full of vines and fruits and cavorting young people who want to make love with you. You’ve left that behind; you rushed to get away from that. Ahead is the promised land that was hidden from view – an icy, rocky crevasse littered with the bodies of the dead and dying.

You ask if you can go back down the way you came and come up a bit more slowly, enjoying the stuff you missed out on. But you get pushed on to a toboggan and go hurtling towards icy oblivion.

You’ll probably get thrown off straight away and die. You might manage to hang on until you get to the bottom, where you will die. The only certainty is that you are going to die, very soon, along with all the other idiots who rushed to climb the hill, not realising that it was the climb that it was all about…

matt998cc

35 posts

29 months

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name of that film please I have been trying to find it for ages

don4l

3,321 posts

46 months

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Marf said:
Classic example being middle aged guy buys sports car. Morons cry "mid life crisis", whereas in reality MAG has probably paid off his mortgage and can now afford the car he's always wanted.
Quite!

I'm in the throes of my mid-life crisis - and I'm loving every minute of it. I haven't had so much fun since I was a teenager.


I paid off my mortgage about 5 years ago, and my pension provision is more than adequate - so why not?


Don
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don4l

3,321 posts

46 months

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name of that film please I have been trying to find it for ages
Falling Down.

Great film.

Don
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RichardD

3,291 posts

115 months

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don4l said:
Falling Down.

Great film.
God Bless America

is recent and has a similar "arghh" at the modern world theme!

Marf

22,907 posts

111 months

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don4l said:
stuff
DB9?? Clearly a MLCmobile you James Bond wannabe! wink

chunkymonkey71

6,089 posts

68 months

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theironduke said:
V8mate said:


I'm 27 and feel like that ^ quite a lot...
I think D-Fens is a legend. Does that make me mental?

(probably...)

Rude-boy

15,651 posts

103 months

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bigandclever said:
Richard Herring on being 'over the hill' said:
For the first half of your life, you’re rushing, struggling to climb the knoll – you’re not even looking around you, just desperate to get to the summit to see what’s on the other side. Finally you reach the peak and you get a clear view both ways. Behind you is a lush, fecund valley, full of vines and fruits and cavorting young people who want to make love with you. You’ve left that behind; you rushed to get away from that. Ahead is the promised land that was hidden from view – an icy, rocky crevasse littered with the bodies of the dead and dying.

You ask if you can go back down the way you came and come up a bit more slowly, enjoying the stuff you missed out on. But you get pushed on to a toboggan and go hurtling towards icy oblivion.

You’ll probably get thrown off straight away and die. You might manage to hang on until you get to the bottom, where you will die. The only certainty is that you are going to die, very soon, along with all the other idiots who rushed to climb the hill, not realising that it was the climb that it was all about…
And then there are those of us that fight like hell and refuse to be put in that toboggan and manage to take a few steps back down the hill where we resist those trying to push us back up for as long as we can. Some call us 'Old Farts' others label us as ‘immature’. Do we care, or are we the only ones who have hit on the solution to the meaning of life. To be old enough to have experienced and learnt many of the lessons of life, yet not to have been overly affected by those with tighter blinkers.

Having recently reached a plateau in my life, and a realisation that it is time to take stock and explore the potential of all opportunities before marching on, never have Thomas’ words rung louder in my ears:-
“ Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”

Or as put a little more succinctly by Rage Against the Machine:-

“fk you; I won’t do what you tell me.”



Edited by Rude-boy on Monday 6th August 15:21

ewenm

24,632 posts

115 months

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"Crisis" is the wrong word - "enlightenment" is better.

GroundEffect

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26 months

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Just shoot everyone. That outta fix it.
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