What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

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Alickadoo

1,713 posts

24 months

Thursday 18th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
My opinion, and not sure it's unpopular, is that any comment about history that starts with "If you can ignore the genocide" isn't really worth reading, unless is says "If you can ignore the genocide, then you're a psychopath".

I can't ignore the genocide, nor can I ignore the fact that Mussolini was hanged, not hung. He was a human, not a painting.
I am not sure if that is correct.

Mussolini was hung upside down from a lamp post. Is hung, not hanged, correct in those circumstances?

Jordie Barretts sock

4,163 posts

20 months

Thursday 18th April
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Yes, Mussolini was hanged. But he was hung up.

Besides which, I was quoting my Italian friend. Needless to say, English wasn't his first language.

If Twig doesn't have the wit to comprehend my post that's not my problem. biggrin

Oilchange

8,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 18th April
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He was shot according to wiki, although theres controversy surrounding actual events

Edited by Oilchange on Thursday 18th April 09:24

Roger Irrelevant

2,943 posts

114 months

Thursday 18th April
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Strangely Brown said:
I will say that there are some, a few, project managers who I have worked with that actually know their role and do it brilliantly. The vast majority, however, are just self-important tossers.
In my experience when the project manager is an employee of the company whose project it is then that tends to work very well, as they know the business, know a lot of the people concerned, and appreciate that those other people are going to be better placed to make decisions. When I hear that the project manager is 'somebody we've bought in from KPMG' my heart does tend to sink a little. It usually means twice the number of calls, five times the bullst, incomprehensible 20-page Powerpoint decks being sent round on a daily basis, and the project manager generally going out of their way to make it clear that they really are managing the st out of the project.

I've never had any real problem with a project manager though bar one occasion when I had a run-in with a jumped-up turd from one of the big four accountancy firms. I basically said 'I don't need to be heavily involved at this stage [sending out a tender doc], but be sure to make it clear in the tender that our requirements are X, Y and Z - we need these to comply with regulations, and if we're not compliant with them then the whole project is pointless'. I toddle off on holiday shortly after, and when I come back I discover that the project manager had decided that requirement X was OK, requirement Z was OK, but he'd felt that requirement Y was a bit limiting/costly and so had somehow persuaded the client to omit that from the tender. So the client had received a load of quotes from potential suppliers that were worthless because they didn't cover what the client actually needed. The little git tried to pin it on me, seemingly forgetting that I'd sent multiple emails not three weeks previously explaining what we needed and why. Utter shyster.

The Wookie

13,961 posts

229 months

Thursday 18th April
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Strangely Brown said:
I will say that there are some, a few, project managers who I have worked with that actually know their role and do it brilliantly. The vast majority, however, are just self-important tossers.
Funny my experience in engineering is the other way round. I think part of the difference is that in the organisations I've worked with and in the project manager often isn't a leader, they're an administrator who pulls together all the disparate bits of the project into an organised structure to help all the stakeholders bring it together. Basically the one that herds the cats.

As an engineer who ends up managing projects as I haven't had a department big enough to justify a dedicated project manager, it's pretty difficult to separate the technology strategy and development from actually making sure the boring stuff is done and that all the different tasks are lined up to be completed for when all the other bits of the project need them. When you've got a few different projects on the go you can end up absolutely fked.

Normally I do the boring stuff while I run round spinning plates by trying to get everyone to understand the bigger picture and jog them to own their bit for themselves but I can easily see how someone with a more...err... 'structured method' would end up being a Powerpoint Nazi.

DodgyGeezer

40,519 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th April
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Alickadoo said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
My opinion, and not sure it's unpopular, is that any comment about history that starts with "If you can ignore the genocide" isn't really worth reading, unless is says "If you can ignore the genocide, then you're a psychopath".

I can't ignore the genocide, nor can I ignore the fact that Mussolini was hanged, not hung. He was a human, not a painting.
I am not sure if that is correct.

Mussolini was hung upside down from a lamp post. Is hung, not hanged, correct in those circumstances?
personally I thought he was strung-up

Countdown

39,954 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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The NHS cannot survive in its current form. We need some element of individual direct payment (eg £10 for a GP appointment, £50 for a hospital appointment)

Countdown

39,954 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Forester1965 said:
Countdown said:
I don't think it's unreasonable for those doing the funding to have a greater say in how the funding is used.
How would that work in practical terms?
The weighting of your vote is linked to the amount of tax you paid. Your voting form could be classed "A" if you've paid no tax at all to "G" if you're a powerfully built PH Director.

Countdown

39,954 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Any vehicle with fake plates should be crushed and the driver banned for 10 years.

Antony Moxey

8,086 posts

220 months

Thursday 18th April
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Countdown said:
Forester1965 said:
Countdown said:
I don't think it's unreasonable for those doing the funding to have a greater say in how the funding is used.
How would that work in practical terms?
The weighting of your vote is linked to the amount of tax you paid. Your voting form could be classed "A" if you've paid no tax at all to "G" if you're a powerfully built PH Director.
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.

Countdown

39,954 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.

Antony Moxey

8,086 posts

220 months

Thursday 18th April
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Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.
No. You said about deciding how taxation is spent, not whether you pay any or not.

Countdown

39,954 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Antony Moxey said:
Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.
No. You said about deciding how taxation is spent, not whether you pay any or not.
How will deciding "how taxation is spent" mean that the "Haves will have even more"?

C5_Steve

3,112 posts

104 months

Thursday 18th April
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Countdown said:
Any vehicle with fake plates should be crushed and the driver banned for 10 years.
Yeah I'm always surprised the punishment isn't higher for this, hardly likely someone is on them by accident surely.

Drew106

1,400 posts

146 months

Thursday 18th April
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Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.
What's your metric for who has "earned" their position. Are you weighting for parents wealth, geographical location, schools attended, intelligence, health etc etc.

None of these variables are in one's control.

Bill

52,799 posts

256 months

Thursday 18th April
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Drew106 said:
What's your metric for who has "earned" their position. Are you weighting for parents wealth, geographical location, schools attended, intelligence, health etc etc.

None of these variables are in one's control.
yes It's a very Victorian view that stifles social mobility.

At least it's in the right thread, although it'd probably fit in NP&E! biggrin

Countdown

39,954 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th April
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Drew106 said:
Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.
What's your metric for who has "earned" their position. Are you weighting for parents wealth, geographical location, schools attended, intelligence, health etc etc.

None of these variables are in one's control.
My suggestion is based purely on "actual tax people have paid" - it doesn't matter HOW they earned the money.

"he who pays the piper should call the tune" smile

bodhi

10,528 posts

230 months

Thursday 18th April
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Countdown said:
My suggestion is based purely on "actual tax people have paid" - it doesn't matter HOW they earned the money.

"he who pays the piper should call the tune" smile
Could be interesting if you add in all taxes, so not just Income Tax/NI/CGT.

Priority lanes for smokers and people who do high miles in an ICE sound good smile

drmotorsport

750 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th April
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C5_Steve said:
Countdown said:
Any vehicle with fake plates should be crushed and the driver banned for 10 years.
Yeah I'm always surprised the punishment isn't higher for this, hardly likely someone is on them by accident surely.
Surely taken to it's logical conclusion it's fraud or tax evasion, or perverting the course of justice in advance!?

hidetheelephants

24,448 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th April
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Countdown said:
Drew106 said:
Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.
What's your metric for who has "earned" their position. Are you weighting for parents wealth, geographical location, schools attended, intelligence, health etc etc.

None of these variables are in one's control.
My suggestion is based purely on "actual tax people have paid" - it doesn't matter HOW they earned the money.

"he who pays the piper should call the tune" smile
I think the whole idea is ridiculous, but doubly ridiculous to give any weight to tax paid on unearned income. It is proposing an oligarchy like 19th century USA, UK etc.