What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

What are your unpopular opinions? (Vol. 2)

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borcy

2,890 posts

57 months

Thursday 18th April
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hidetheelephants said:
Countdown said:
Drew106 said:
Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.
What's your metric for who has "earned" their position. Are you weighting for parents wealth, geographical location, schools attended, intelligence, health etc etc.

None of these variables are in one's control.
My suggestion is based purely on "actual tax people have paid" - it doesn't matter HOW they earned the money.

"he who pays the piper should call the tune" smile
I think the whole idea is ridiculous, but doubly ridiculous to give any weight to tax paid on unearned income. It is proposing an oligarchy like 19th century USA, UK etc.
Of course it is, just a bit of fun on a less than serious thread.

Roger Irrelevant

2,941 posts

114 months

Thursday 18th April
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On the subject of voting, I think there should be a simple quiz on basic features of the UK that you have to pass before being allowed to cast a vote. Nothing particularly difficult and purely factual stuff, just to weed out people who haven't got a clue about what it is they're doing.

Kuwahara

849 posts

19 months

Thursday 18th April
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Roger Irrelevant said:
On the subject of voting, I think there should be a simple quiz on basic features of the UK that you have to pass before being allowed to cast a vote. Nothing particularly difficult and purely factual stuff, just to weed out people who haven't got a clue about what it is they're doing.
It’s by design that the system is like that, who was it that said if voting changed anything you wouldn’t be allowed to do it…

Forester1965

1,518 posts

4 months

Thursday 18th April
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Roger Irrelevant said:
On the subject of voting, I think there should be a simple quiz on basic features of the UK that you have to pass before being allowed to cast a vote. Nothing particularly difficult and purely factual stuff, just to weed out people who haven't got a clue about what it is they're doing.
It could start with a picture round of famous British Paedos where you have to guess the odd one out.

- Jimmy Savile
- Stuart Hall
- Rolf Harris
- Gary Glitter

I'd you don't know your front-of-The Sun kiddy fiddlers, no vote you joyless ignoramus.

Nethybridge

937 posts

13 months

Thursday 18th April
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Kuwahara said:
It’s by design that the system is like that, who was it that said if voting changed anything you wouldn’t be allowed to do it…
Just a witty epigram, plenty of examples where voters have changed
things, Hitler's 2 federal elections in 1932, Roosevelt in 1932, Labour getting in in 1945.

hidetheelephants

24,437 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th April
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Nethybridge said:
Kuwahara said:
It’s by design that the system is like that, who was it that said if voting changed anything you wouldn’t be allowed to do it…
Just a witty epigram, plenty of examples where voters have changed
things, Hitler's 2 federal elections in 1932, Roosevelt in 1932, Labour getting in in 1945.
Hitler wasn't elected, Hindenburg picked him.

Strangely Brown

10,075 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th April
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Nethybridge said:
Labour getting in in 1945.
The people have spoken. The bds.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,400 posts

151 months

Thursday 18th April
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Roger Irrelevant said:
On the subject of voting, I think there should be a simple quiz on basic features of the UK that you have to pass before being allowed to cast a vote. Nothing particularly difficult and purely factual stuff, just to weed out people who haven't got a clue about what it is they're doing.
My brother and I discussed this on a two hour train journey, and actually designed the test. 10 questions, multiple choice, on a computer screen in the polling booth. A big red arrow with "FAIL" on it above the booth that flashed up with a siren if you didn't score 50%, which is the pass mark. That will discourage people who even think they might fail from turning up at all, and holding the rest of us up. So you discourage millions of thickies before you even start.

Q1. In order to pass this test, there are 10 questions and you need to score 50%. How many do you need to get right. 3,5 7 or 9.
Q2. Two houses make up the Houses of Parliament, the House of Commons and the...... House of Cards, House of Lords, House of the Rising Sun, House of Fun.

You get the picture.

NRG1976

981 posts

11 months

Thursday 18th April
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Democracy is flawed and inefficient way to run a country. Assuming no power crazy megalomaniacs and a basic level of competency, the UK would have been better off under a dictator over the last 30 years.

Strangely Brown

10,075 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th April
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NRG1976 said:
Democracy is flawed and inefficient way to run a country. Assuming no power crazy megalomaniacs and a basic level of competency, the UK would have been better off under a dictator over the last 30 years.
Democracy is the worst form of government... apart from all of the others that have been tried.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

hidetheelephants

24,437 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th April
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Has this been merged with the "Phrases that annoy you the most" thread?

Forester1965

1,518 posts

4 months

Thursday 18th April
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NRG1976 said:
Democracy is flawed and inefficient way to run a country. Assuming no power crazy megalomaniacs and a basic level of competency, the UK would have been better off under a dictator over the last 30 years.
The benefit of dictatorship or similar is that stuff gets done. The downside is a lot of people get stuffed in the process and you have to keep imprisoning/killing folk who don't like it. And you never know whether the state will decide you're one of those who need imprisoning or killing.

Apart from that, great. Trip Advisor 5*.

Oilchange

8,467 posts

261 months

Friday 19th April
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Countdown said:
Any vehicle with fake plates should be crushed and the driver banned for 10 years.
I’d rather the vehicle was broken for parts and the driver put naked in stocks and pelted with cabbages.
The drivers of said cars are probably banned already!

Sycamore

1,795 posts

119 months

Friday 19th April
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Oilchange said:
Countdown said:
Any vehicle with fake plates should be crushed and the driver banned for 10 years.
I’d rather the vehicle was broken for parts and the driver put naked in stocks and pelted with cabbages.
The drivers of said cars are probably banned already!
Be creative. Merge the two.

The vehicle is broken for parts. The driver is put naked in stocks.
The driver is pelted with 10 random parts from the vehicle.

You could get one of those annoying plastic trim clips that break easily. Followed by an engine block biggrin

Antony Moxey

8,085 posts

220 months

Friday 19th April
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Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
Countdown said:
Antony Moxey said:
So the haves have even more and the have nots get even less. Brilliant.
You mean the "Haves" keep more of what they earned and the "Have Nots" get less of other people's money?

That doesn't necessarily have to be the outcome.
No. You said about deciding how taxation is spent, not whether you pay any or not.
How will deciding "how taxation is spent" mean that the "Haves will have even more"?
Because they get to choose, the poor don’t, so what they have more of is choice, what the poor have less of is choice. Ergo the haves have even more and the have nots get even less.

anonymoususer

5,828 posts

49 months

Friday 19th April
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I think you should pay a small fee to vote. Nothing much just say a tenner.
It would weedle out some of the freeloaders.
Similarly if you have the money you should be able to have a second vote
I would put the charges at £120 one vote £20 second vote £50 third vote

hidetheelephants

24,437 posts

194 months

Friday 19th April
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I think you should be paid to vote, but there ought to be a "none of the above" option. And democracy sausages. I want a sausage.

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Saturday 20th April
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Countdown said:
The NHS cannot survive in its current form. We need some element of individual direct payment (eg £10 for a GP appointment, £50 for a hospital appointment)
This would work out exactly like prescriptions, and I would find myself the only person in the waiting room who is not for some reason or another exempt from paying.

Also, if you put someone off getting that funny looking mole looked at, the NHS ends up paying a lot of money to keep someone with stage 4 melanoma alive a little longer.

Rob 131 Sport

2,529 posts

53 months

Saturday 20th April
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Thinking that Margaret Thatcher was a Great Leader who started off a generation of entrepreneurs that went on to create many small and medium sized businesses that are the backbone of British business.


chemistry

2,158 posts

110 months

Saturday 20th April
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otolith said:
Countdown said:
The NHS cannot survive in its current form. We need some element of individual direct payment (eg £10 for a GP appointment, £50 for a hospital appointment)
This would work out exactly like prescriptions, and I would find myself the only person in the waiting room who is not for some reason or another exempt from paying.

Also, if you put someone off getting that funny looking mole looked at, the NHS ends up paying a lot of money to keep someone with stage 4 melanoma alive a little longer.
I’d charge £10 for missed appointments, or cancelled without giving at least 24hrs notice.

Shame Rishi bottled it: https://news.sky.com/story/amp/rishi-sunak-backtra...