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adamsky
Original Poster
664 posts
85 months
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Hi, last year I done my first 10k run, I've signed up for 2 this year and I'm looking to beat my time. I bought a cheap pair of asics but was wondering if I would benefit from a decent pair of trainers? What kind and what price should I be looking to pay? Cheers Adam
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Ray Singh
2,037 posts
99 months
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chrisobrien54
308 posts
66 months
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I do a load of running, and yes to all of the above!
But also, if you fancy relearning how to run look up 5-Finger Vibrams. Been running for years, got a pair of these and Jeeesus! You really do relearn how to run, but putting my tried and tested old shoes back on - I've never ran faster, or with better form.
I'm doing 3 miles in the Vibrams, 1 days recovery (you will need more when starting - like a week!) then 5/6 miles in my normals. After 4 weeks I couldnt believe how fast I'd become. Really worth the effort.
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gmh23
249 posts
49 months
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adamsky said: Hi, last year I done my first 10k run, I've signed up for 2 this year and I'm looking to beat my time. I bought a cheap pair of asics but was wondering if I would benefit from a decent pair of trainers? What kind and what price should I be looking to pay? Cheers Adam I'm in a similar situation to you. I ran my first 10k (Mens Health Survival of the Fittest) in a cheap pair of Asics that I'd had for a couple of years. Since then I've upgraded to a more expensive paid of running shoes that seem comfortable enough. If you have a "run4it" (or similar) shop near-by, they put you on a running machine to check you're running style and recommend a shoes that compliments it, however they do come at a price, around the £90 mark.
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alfa pint
3,856 posts
80 months
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Echoing the above ^^^ get your first decent pair in a running shop that specialises in running shoes. They'll be able to look at your feet, possibly get you running on a special mat to see how your foot lands and then recommend a variety of shoes that you can then try out for size. My old local one in both Plymouth and Exeter would make you go outside and run up and down the street in them, rather than just trying them on in the shop.
I'm a big fan of saucony, but that's purely because I'm 'powerfully built' / front row hooker size and therefore like the extra cushioning that saucony provide over say brooks or asics.
Trainers will last for about 500miles before they start to lose the support and cushioning. Once you've found a shoe that works for you, you can then go trawling the internet and amazon and get the same one at internet prices.
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ewenm
24,427 posts
114 months
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adamsky
Original Poster
664 posts
85 months
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Thanks very much for the replys guy. The asics trainers I got were only £30 and I'm 14 and a half stone so don't think they would last. Done 8k on Monday and my legs are still sore! Was just wondering if good trainers would help. I'm a big fan of you get what you pay for. Going to speak nice to the wife this weekend am try go to Edinburgh at the weekend, I'll let you guys know how I get on.
Cheers Adam
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RobM77
23,014 posts
103 months
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The most important thing is to go to a proper running shop where they fit the shoes to your feet with gait analysis on a treadmill. Most running shops do this these days. If even then you have any joint problems when running (I speak from unfortunate experience!), go to a podiatrist who will be able to look further at your feet and make up some insoles for you. I also now do other sports, which appears to maintain muscle in my legs supporting my knees and my core protecting my back, so I'd at the very least advise some gym work or exercises at home to go alongside running - EwenM would be better to advise.
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ClassicMercs
1,160 posts
50 months
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Another vote here for a shop with treadmill and analysis (eg Up and Running).
And add in proper running socks with variable support in relevant areas.
Helps carry my 19 stone.
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Halb
17,846 posts
52 months
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InertialTooth45
1,493 posts
56 months
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Echoing the above about the vibrams, I follow a similar style of training and the difference is incredible. My normal shoe is a nike free which is a very flexible shoe so also good for form.
As much as people stress about gait analysis and getting a shoe that fits your pronation is the best thing to do, it doesn't solve the problem. Get a shoe that builds up on one side because you over pronate is going to keep you in that bad habit. I'd go for a neutral shoe and do some barefoot grass running as well and make sure your form is spot on.
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Tiggsy
7,177 posts
121 months
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IMO the whole "running analysis" is load of twaddle. No other part of the body seems to be as useless at doing the job it's meant to as the human foot! It was designed to run yet if you do that in 2012 you'll over pronate, under pronate, get shin splints, screw up your achiles and your arch will collapse!
I run in Merrell Trail Gloves and do so pain free (at 17 stone) for the first time in 20 years.
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chrisobrien54
308 posts
66 months
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I'd love to agree with the above about feet doing as they're supposed to without tons of fancy shoe aids... But I fear most knees simply couldn't handle the battering after years of abuse. Plus learning in Vibrams, or whatever, is f  king HARD and I'd say more than likely to put people off. Like I say, i agree with the sentiment, but the practicality is questionable. Buy both!!!!! : )
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chrisobrien54
308 posts
66 months
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That said, I literally can not believe the improvement my Vibrams have made. I'm running in a fashion I thought my body type just wasn't capable of. Easily achieving speeds I thought impossible for me! - cough*marksdailyapple*cough* ; )
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adamsky
Original Poster
664 posts
85 months
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Well I went to a running shop and got trainers after they had me on the treadmill and I'm still getting shin splints?? Heeeeelllp! What do I do now?
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Halb
17,846 posts
52 months
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InertialTooth45
1,493 posts
56 months
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adamsky said: Well I went to a running shop and got trainers after they had me on the treadmill and I'm still getting shin splints?? Heeeeelllp! What do I do now? Do you heel strike or toe strike?
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0000
9,303 posts
60 months
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adamsky said: Well I went to a running shop and got trainers after they had me on the treadmill and I'm still getting shin splints?? Heeeeelllp! What do I do now? Vibrams.
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Tiggsy
7,177 posts
121 months
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0000 said: adamsky said: Well I went to a running shop and got trainers after they had me on the treadmill and I'm still getting shin splints?? Heeeeelllp! What do I do now? Vibrams. This....trust the millions of years your feet evolved over.....not some bloke with a running machine and stock to clear!
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adamsky
Original Poster
664 posts
85 months
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Suppose I toe strike but I'm bad for landing on the outside of my foot?
you could be right about to much to soon, I'm 36 and I never done any exercise for 22 years and jumped into training for a 10k run
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