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rock bottom

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102 posts

11 months

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Monday 30th July 2012 quote quote all
Bohally said:
Out of interest, how do you feel in the morning? Do you feel "fine" to drive?
yes, i feel "fine"

if i was involved in an accident however ... who knows?

2.5pi

335 posts

52 months

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rock bottom said:
Bohally said:
Out of interest, how do you feel in the morning? Do you feel "fine" to drive?
yes, i feel "fine"

if i was involved in an accident however ... who knows?
Well job 1 sounds like getting an alcosense or similar, it'll be harder to kick the alcohol if you're walking everywhere or worse..


rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

11 months

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Tuesday 31st July 2012 quote quote all
pretty much where i am

gp appointment on friday ... new life starts thereafter

seriously struggling right now but grateful for help, advice and support here

Drclarke

620 posts

43 months

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Wednesday 1st August 2012 quote quote all
Openly admitting you have a problem is actually the half the battle and for some the hardest part.

Look at it that your now already halfway through, have a mad ten minutes and throw all alcohol down the sink, even it's something special like a bottle of champagne from your wedding day or some rum that's used for cooking, don't keep any money in the house that would facilitate a wander to the local off licence.

Live like a monk for a few weeks and
make it as hard as possible to get a drink into your hands.


Fun Bus

12,623 posts

88 months

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Thursday 2nd August 2012 quote quote all
rock bottom said:
Fun Bus said:
I was arrested and spent the night in a cell about a year ago - I was the last person you'd think that would happen to and the shame I felt for a long time after hit me hard - fortunately I just got an £80 FPN and no record.
wow!

this raised an eyebrow

when i get this all sorted, i'd really like to meet you (serious)
Just for clarity, I'm not a thug nor a criminal but the arrest and FPN was for being drunk and disorderly outside a bar in Nottingham. The bouncers didn't help matters though. s.
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Tyre Smoke

9,252 posts

131 months

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Thursday 2nd August 2012 quote quote all
Not read the whole thread, but have you contacted these people?

http://www.addaction.org.uk/

Not your usual 'Alcoholics Anonymous sitting in a circle admitting you are a failure' type help.

Good luck, first step is to recognise you have a problem.

rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

11 months

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Sunday 5th August 2012 quote quote all
Fun Bus said:
Just for clarity, I'm not a thug nor a criminal.
i didn't think that at all

B17NNS

8,714 posts

117 months

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Sunday 5th August 2012 quote quote all
rock bottom said:
i didn't think that at all
Very few of us are.

Just ill.

How did Friday go?

rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

11 months

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saw gp on thursday - a bit dissapointed

own fault as i'd expected a magic pill on the day

gp doesn't want to start me on a programme until i've been assessed by a specialist

i was given the choice of a few organisations and, based on the advice above (thanks) chose addaction

earliest appointment wednesday

then back to gp thursday to start a programme (i think)

gp mentioned diazopan

gave me beta blockers for the anxiety and panic (propranolol 40mg three times daily) - these don't appear to help whatsoever

told not to try to stop (as advised several times abve) but to try to cut down a bit - which my wife thinks i am managing

desperate to get going with this as life is currently swinging between utter despair and reaching for the bottle

don't know if it was a good idea but i have told my ywo closest friends and my brothers

roll on wednesday

i will do this

wish me luck

x5x3

1,497 posts

123 months

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propranolol is a fantastic drug, give it some time to work, I had it a few years ago when I was working way too hard and was basically exhausted. It does however work on the symptoms and not the cause but it does give you relief from the symptoms which gives you a chance to work on the causes with a more positive mind.


happychap

261 posts

18 months

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Slow down, this situation hasn't developed over night, it will take time for you to not only make the change, but to sustain the change. Dont put a time scale on the outcome that you are aiming for. Have you decided if you are aiming to be abstinent or reduction. Good luck

B17NNS

8,714 posts

117 months

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Do not be disheartened. What you've done so far is incredibly brave. You are not weak and you are not a failure.

You are ill and you are going to get better.

You've taken the first step on a difficult journey and as impossible as it may seem right now, once you've climbed this mountain, the view will be unbelievably clear.

Try not to berate yourself too much if you slip either. Like every path in life there will be the odd wrong turn. You have people all around you (virtual or otherwise) who will listen or give you a nudge in the right direction without judgement or desire for recompense.

So, as much as I know you feel you don't deserve it, give yourself a little pat on the back.

Find a peaceful spot, close your eyes and either remember or imagine a life without anxiety, depression, panic attacks (and hangovers that are only cured by another drink).

That life that you're imagining or remembering is within grasp and just at the top of that hill.

And we're all climbing with you.

rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

11 months

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what a great post

thanks so much

you are an inspiring person

thanks to all others too who have offered such supportive messages

rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

11 months

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i was having a bit of a think today as i lay on my bach shaking - waiting for the tesco delivery man

i have been struggling to understand what happened in terms of how quickly things have escalated to where i'm at right now

it's only a matter of weeks ago i was thinking that i should maybe cut down a bit but i was still functioning properly

and then, before i could see any signs, i'm in what seems like a disasterous situation

best analogy is that it's like a vortex

on the outside, it's quite slow and controlled

when i got close to the centre, it was going so fast i had zero control

and then it spat me out in to a place i don't recognise

Fun Bus

12,623 posts

88 months

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Monday 6th August 2012 quote quote all
rock bottom said:
Fun Bus said:
Just for clarity, I'm not a thug nor a criminal.
i didn't think that at all
I know nobody really thought it but the shame in admitting to what happened makes me think I might be judged. It still upsets me a bit now to be honest.

I was out with friends and drunk. Got involved with some prick who was trying to goad me into a fight as the bar was throwing out. I didn't bite and walked off before being physically chucked out by a doorman as I think he thought I was trying to cause trouble. I fell into a kerbside bin and onto the floor, someone grabbed me off the floor and as I was shaken and unsure what had just happened I turned to this person and said "fk off you ."

It was a copper and before I knew it I was face down on the pavement with three coppers arresting me. I was then in the back of the van. This all happened in the time my Missus went to use the loo before leaving the club - our other friends told her what happened and she thought it was a prank and I was hiding round the corner or something.

I was black and blue with bruises due to the brutality of my arrest - I made a formal complaint to Nottinghamshire Constabulary and did get a verbal apology from one of the senior bods. Sadly, I now have a lot less respect for the Police due to the way I was treated.

happychap

261 posts

18 months

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Monday 6th August 2012 quote quote all
rock bottom said:
i was having a bit of a think today as i lay on my bach shaking - waiting for the tesco delivery man

i have been struggling to understand what happened in terms of how quickly things have escalated to where i'm at right now

it's only a matter of weeks ago i was thinking that i should maybe cut down a bit but i was still functioning properly

and then, before i could see any signs, i'm in what seems like a disasterous situation

best analogy is that it's like a vortex

on the outside, it's quite slow and controlled

when i got close to the centre, it was going so fast i had zero control

and then it spat me out in to a place i don't recognise
The place you dont recognise, will become more familiar as you continue with this process and become less dependent on Alcohol.

Bohally

814 posts

17 months

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Tuesday 7th August 2012 quote quote all
Fun Bus said:
I know nobody really thought it but the shame in admitting to what happened makes me think I might be judged. It still upsets me a bit now to be honest.

I was out with friends and drunk. Got involved with some prick who was trying to goad me into a fight as the bar was throwing out. I didn't bite and walked off before being physically chucked out by a doorman as I think he thought I was trying to cause trouble. I fell into a kerbside bin and onto the floor, someone grabbed me off the floor and as I was shaken and unsure what had just happened I turned to this person and said "fk off you ."

It was a copper and before I knew it I was face down on the pavement with three coppers arresting me. I was then in the back of the van. This all happened in the time my Missus went to use the loo before leaving the club - our other friends told her what happened and she thought it was a prank and I was hiding round the corner or something.

I was black and blue with bruises due to the brutality of my arrest - I made a formal complaint to Nottinghamshire Constabulary and did get a verbal apology from one of the senior bods. Sadly, I now have a lot less respect for the Police due to the way I was treated.
I wouldn't beat yourself up to much about it. I had a situation where I ended up with a caution for breaking a glass door. I'd been in the pub most of the day, had walked the half mile to the 24 hour garage to get something to eat at closing time. When I was inside, I thought the door was a push to exit, turns out it was a pull. In my drunken state I decided to give it a kick to see if it was just stiff. The glass shattered, police called. I was home before they turned up but due to where I livevery (its a pretty small place - they left a message on my voicemail). I phoned them back the next day apologetic and arranged to come into the station. I was cautioned for vandalism, and I repaid the damage in full plus a bottle , to the owner of the shop. This was totally out of character for me (I work as an Accountant - Everyone knows how boring we are...), first time offence e.t.c . Always had a lot of respect for other peoples property/the police e.t.c Felt pretty stupid for a while after it though. It happens!

BorkFactor

5,059 posts

28 months

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I don't have too much to add to this thread, but I think it is very good that you have realised you have a problem before it is too late and are looking to rectify it.

2 days before Christmas last year, the police came to our door at 2am to tell us that my Auntie had died from alcoholism at 42. We knew about her problem, I had spoken to her about it on the phone, but she refused to admit anything was wrong - hence no one could do anything about it. Unfortunately she came into a large sum of money, and that was the catalyst for things to come.

That was the end of it really, the money was in my Auntie's name and no one could take it away. 6 months later she was dead. I still remember going to my Gran's house in the middle of the night to tell her what had happened, it was devastating. My family is still in the process of recovering now, and it has had a real impact on all of us.

Alcoholism is a truly terrible thing and doesn't just affect the individual, but their families too. The worst part is, there is almost nothing that can be done if an addict does not admit that there is a problem, so well done those who are trying to address the issue.

Note - this is not aimed at anyone in particular who is reading or has contributed to this thread. I just feel it is important that those affected get a slightly different point of view on things.

Edited by BorkFactor on Tuesday 7th August 07:56

rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

11 months

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managed to get through monday so just today and tomorrow morning to go

then i see addaction

then gp thursday

then who knows?

developed a super trick to sidestep morning panics - take a huge vodka to bed

that is so desperate

anxiety has calmed down a lot

i think the beta blockers might be working at last - thanks to a previous contributor who recommended giving it time

i hope readers don't think this post is self indulgent on my part and / or seeking pity

my wife recommended that i keep a diary or make a blog - which i'm doing

i'm thinking that this topic might provide a useful resource to someone in the future who needs the kind of help i do right now


Edited by rock bottom on Tuesday 7th August 14:12

Tyre Smoke

9,252 posts

131 months

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Addaction are going to be tough on you. They take no prisoners. You have to be TOTALLY honest with them otherwise it's a waste of their time and yours. They are very very good though, if you give them a chance.

Good luck mate and don't feel as though you are failing. The GP and addaction will help if you let them.
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