Hayfever!!

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pocketspring

5,305 posts

21 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Beconase has been a life saver for me.

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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There are a couple of issues with Kenalog.

As it's illegal to advertise POMs (Prescription Only Medicines) in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority and the MHRA will take enforcement action against anyone who advertises that they'll administer it. That's aimed at private clinics plus the aesthetic lip filler practitioners.

The MHRA and the manufacturers have withdrawn the Kenalog product licence for the treatment of hay fever, which means that whoever administers it takes legal responsibility for its use. So if anything goes wrong there's no comeback on the manufacturer-it's all on the lip filler clinic who has given you the jab. They should have professional liability insurance, but that won't cover unlicensed medication, so you'd be personally suing the lip filler lady.

Best start practising your Compo faces now! hehe

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-and-cap-ta...

Edited by Paul Dishman on Thursday 30th March 09:23

DaveH23

3,236 posts

170 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Last year I got the Kenalog injection. Only found out I could get it later in the hayfever season but it eased symptoms pretty much straight away.

You used to be able to get it on the NHS many moons ago but they stopped doing it because of the cost.

Will be getting it alot earlier this year. Best £75 ever spent.


knk

1,267 posts

271 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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DaveH23 said:
Last year I got the Kenalog injection. Only found out I could get it later in the hayfever season but it eased symptoms pretty much straight away.

You used to be able to get it on the NHS many moons ago but they stopped doing it because of the cost.

Will be getting it alot earlier this year. Best £75 ever spent.
It was not stopped due to cost.
It was stopped due to the potential for severe and sometimes irreversible rare side effects such as avascular necrosis of bones, metal health problems including steroid psychosis, and severe and sometimes overwhelming infection due to immune suppression.
40mg kenalog is equivalent to 5mg prednisolone daily for 3w, but if you are on oral steroids and get side effects you may stop taking them, but with the depot injection that is not possible.

Wildfire

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9,789 posts

252 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Right, it is a bit better, the Loratadine seems to sort of kicked in. But my nose still gets blocked at night when I go to sleep.

I've picked up some fexofenadine (Allevia) as an extra boost, which seems to work, but does give me some dry mouth.

Interesting comments on diet, I do have a mild milk allergy and my diet has been pretty awful for the last few weeks / months and I have bit of eczema etc. which I'm sure is as a result of it.

So I guess that probably isn't helping much.

snotrag

14,464 posts

211 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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I always post up on the annual Hayfever threads here.

I'm 37 and since a teenager I have always suffered masively with Hayfever very early in the season - starting around February, into March, which indicated that it was Trees in particular that set me off.

However we moved last year, and I remember thinking I didnt seem to remember having a bad season. This year I started to wonder whether it would happen and surprisingly, it never seems to have kicked in this year like it used to - we are well into Spring now, the trees are all blooming and in thick green leaf, but nothing...

I dont know whether this is a geographical thing, (we havent moved far) or an age thing (GP did say I might still one day just grow out of it even in my 30s).


Loratadine always seemed to work better than ceterizine for me, along with Vaseline around the inside of my nostrils. Didnt help that my key hobbies were a)mountain biking and b) driving cars with an open top!


The milk thing is definitely worth looking into too - I know ive always had too much (big bowls of cereal every morning, loads of coffee) and though its hard to wean myself off, i have tried in the past and I think it does have an affect on my general constant 'bunged up-ness'.

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Wildfire said:
Right, it is a bit better, the Loratadine seems to sort of kicked in. But my nose still gets blocked at night when I go to sleep.

I've picked up some fexofenadine (Allevia) as an extra boost, which seems to work, but does give me some dry mouth.

I"ve found Cetirizine works better for me than Loratadine, but if I'm bad at night I'll take a Chlorphenamine 4 mg tablet. I get itchy skin sometimes at night and the sedation from the Chlorphenamine helps and it should help your blocked nose.. It's available as a generic from a pharmacy, or as Piriton.


Edited by Paul Dishman on Friday 31st March 15:53

shtu

3,455 posts

146 months

Saturday 1st April 2023
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Last time I spoke to my GP about hayfever, they were quite happy for me to take either 1 per day of both cetirizine and loratadine, or 2 per day of either one.

I've rarely needed to do that, though I do find it takes 2-3 days for either to get up to full effect.

ooid

4,092 posts

100 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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I've had one of my worst seasons so far really this year, quite early since mid February. I'm taking Benadryl(Acrivastine), hardly keeping me in shape.


getmecoat

sawman

4,919 posts

230 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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Its been a bad season so far for me too, started mid feb. Usually use desloratidine , but this year not really cutting it. Tried fexofenadine last week but no better.

I wondered if it might be different this year as using monoclonal antibodies for asthma. The asthma is tons better.

Edited by sawman on Sunday 2nd April 13:48

swanseaboydan

1,730 posts

163 months

Sunday 17th March
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I’ll kick it off for this year - I’m pretty sure I’ve got hay fever already - blurry vision , sore eyes, runny nose . .
Anyone else ? I’m taking half an Allevia in the morning to try and ease it . Seems very early though

CivicDuties

4,646 posts

30 months

Monday 18th March
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I'm a month in. Mine starts in February when the (lime) trees in my neighbourhood start spaffing their filth into the air.

swanseaboydan

1,730 posts

163 months

Monday 18th March
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Seems to start earlier and earlier each year

Flumpo

3,750 posts

73 months

Saturday 13th April
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Had some hayfever symptoms today which have left me itchy as fk on the face head and neck.

Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.

Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.

There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.

Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.

swanseaboydan

1,730 posts

163 months

Saturday 13th April
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I’m in London for the weekend and the hay fever always seems worse here . .

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Saturday 13th April
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Flumpo said:
Had some hayfever symptoms today which have left me itchy as fk on the face head and neck.

Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.

Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.

There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.

Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Have you tried Chlorphenamine? That should help with the itch. I'd avoid Kenalog as we discussed above, especially as no reputable health professional will administer it, not to mention the risk of being given a fake

Paul Dishman

4,706 posts

237 months

Saturday 13th April
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Mobile Chicane

20,835 posts

212 months

Saturday 13th April
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Try Loratidine and a Pseudoephedrine Hydrochloride (Sudafed) tablet. From the pharmacy counter.

Cutting out alcohol has also helped.

Hazel, birch trees and rowan are my particular nemeses, and unfortunately I'm surrounded by them.


Flumpo

3,750 posts

73 months

Saturday 13th April
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Paul Dishman said:
Flumpo said:
Had some hayfever symptoms today which have left me itchy as fk on the face head and neck.

Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.

Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.

There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.

Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Have you tried Chlorphenamine? That should help with the itch. I'd avoid Kenalog as we discussed above, especially as no reputable health professional will administer it, not to mention the risk of being given a fake
That is a little worrying as he’s been my GP for 14 years. I am going to mention the side effects and NHS ban and see what he recommends.


agent006

12,039 posts

264 months

Saturday 13th April
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I've taken pretty much anything on the market for hayfever over the last 40 years. I also have a similar allergy to dust mites, cats, etc. I'm allergic to life, essentially. I'd found Loratadine/Clarityn to be the best non prescription medication so far.

GP prescribed Avamys steroid nasal spray for my hayfever last year. Absolutely changed my life. A spray every couple of days keeps it all in check. Takes a bit of balancing the dose vs the side effects if you're prone to nosebleeds though.