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There are a couple of issues with Kenalog.
As it's illegal to advertise POMs (Prescription Only Medicines) in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority and the MHRA will take enforcement action against anyone who advertises that they'll administer it. That's aimed at private clinics plus the aesthetic lip filler practitioners.
The MHRA and the manufacturers have withdrawn the Kenalog product licence for the treatment of hay fever, which means that whoever administers it takes legal responsibility for its use. So if anything goes wrong there's no comeback on the manufacturer-it's all on the lip filler clinic who has given you the jab. They should have professional liability insurance, but that won't cover unlicensed medication, so you'd be personally suing the lip filler lady.
Best start practising your Compo faces now!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-and-cap-ta...
As it's illegal to advertise POMs (Prescription Only Medicines) in the UK the Advertising Standards Authority and the MHRA will take enforcement action against anyone who advertises that they'll administer it. That's aimed at private clinics plus the aesthetic lip filler practitioners.
The MHRA and the manufacturers have withdrawn the Kenalog product licence for the treatment of hay fever, which means that whoever administers it takes legal responsibility for its use. So if anything goes wrong there's no comeback on the manufacturer-it's all on the lip filler clinic who has given you the jab. They should have professional liability insurance, but that won't cover unlicensed medication, so you'd be personally suing the lip filler lady.
Best start practising your Compo faces now!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-and-cap-ta...
Edited by Paul Dishman on Thursday 30th March 09:23
Last year I got the Kenalog injection. Only found out I could get it later in the hayfever season but it eased symptoms pretty much straight away.
You used to be able to get it on the NHS many moons ago but they stopped doing it because of the cost.
Will be getting it alot earlier this year. Best £75 ever spent.
You used to be able to get it on the NHS many moons ago but they stopped doing it because of the cost.
Will be getting it alot earlier this year. Best £75 ever spent.
DaveH23 said:
Last year I got the Kenalog injection. Only found out I could get it later in the hayfever season but it eased symptoms pretty much straight away.
You used to be able to get it on the NHS many moons ago but they stopped doing it because of the cost.
Will be getting it alot earlier this year. Best £75 ever spent.
It was not stopped due to cost.You used to be able to get it on the NHS many moons ago but they stopped doing it because of the cost.
Will be getting it alot earlier this year. Best £75 ever spent.
It was stopped due to the potential for severe and sometimes irreversible rare side effects such as avascular necrosis of bones, metal health problems including steroid psychosis, and severe and sometimes overwhelming infection due to immune suppression.
40mg kenalog is equivalent to 5mg prednisolone daily for 3w, but if you are on oral steroids and get side effects you may stop taking them, but with the depot injection that is not possible.
Right, it is a bit better, the Loratadine seems to sort of kicked in. But my nose still gets blocked at night when I go to sleep.
I've picked up some fexofenadine (Allevia) as an extra boost, which seems to work, but does give me some dry mouth.
Interesting comments on diet, I do have a mild milk allergy and my diet has been pretty awful for the last few weeks / months and I have bit of eczema etc. which I'm sure is as a result of it.
So I guess that probably isn't helping much.
I've picked up some fexofenadine (Allevia) as an extra boost, which seems to work, but does give me some dry mouth.
Interesting comments on diet, I do have a mild milk allergy and my diet has been pretty awful for the last few weeks / months and I have bit of eczema etc. which I'm sure is as a result of it.
So I guess that probably isn't helping much.
I always post up on the annual Hayfever threads here.
I'm 37 and since a teenager I have always suffered masively with Hayfever very early in the season - starting around February, into March, which indicated that it was Trees in particular that set me off.
However we moved last year, and I remember thinking I didnt seem to remember having a bad season. This year I started to wonder whether it would happen and surprisingly, it never seems to have kicked in this year like it used to - we are well into Spring now, the trees are all blooming and in thick green leaf, but nothing...
I dont know whether this is a geographical thing, (we havent moved far) or an age thing (GP did say I might still one day just grow out of it even in my 30s).
Loratadine always seemed to work better than ceterizine for me, along with Vaseline around the inside of my nostrils. Didnt help that my key hobbies were a)mountain biking and b) driving cars with an open top!
The milk thing is definitely worth looking into too - I know ive always had too much (big bowls of cereal every morning, loads of coffee) and though its hard to wean myself off, i have tried in the past and I think it does have an affect on my general constant 'bunged up-ness'.
I'm 37 and since a teenager I have always suffered masively with Hayfever very early in the season - starting around February, into March, which indicated that it was Trees in particular that set me off.
However we moved last year, and I remember thinking I didnt seem to remember having a bad season. This year I started to wonder whether it would happen and surprisingly, it never seems to have kicked in this year like it used to - we are well into Spring now, the trees are all blooming and in thick green leaf, but nothing...
I dont know whether this is a geographical thing, (we havent moved far) or an age thing (GP did say I might still one day just grow out of it even in my 30s).
Loratadine always seemed to work better than ceterizine for me, along with Vaseline around the inside of my nostrils. Didnt help that my key hobbies were a)mountain biking and b) driving cars with an open top!
The milk thing is definitely worth looking into too - I know ive always had too much (big bowls of cereal every morning, loads of coffee) and though its hard to wean myself off, i have tried in the past and I think it does have an affect on my general constant 'bunged up-ness'.
Wildfire said:
Right, it is a bit better, the Loratadine seems to sort of kicked in. But my nose still gets blocked at night when I go to sleep.
I've picked up some fexofenadine (Allevia) as an extra boost, which seems to work, but does give me some dry mouth.
I"ve found Cetirizine works better for me than Loratadine, but if I'm bad at night I'll take a Chlorphenamine 4 mg tablet. I get itchy skin sometimes at night and the sedation from the Chlorphenamine helps and it should help your blocked nose.. It's available as a generic from a pharmacy, or as Piriton.I've picked up some fexofenadine (Allevia) as an extra boost, which seems to work, but does give me some dry mouth.
Edited by Paul Dishman on Friday 31st March 15:53
Its been a bad season so far for me too, started mid feb. Usually use desloratidine , but this year not really cutting it. Tried fexofenadine last week but no better.
I wondered if it might be different this year as using monoclonal antibodies for asthma. The asthma is tons better.
I wondered if it might be different this year as using monoclonal antibodies for asthma. The asthma is tons better.
Edited by sawman on Sunday 2nd April 13:48
Had some hayfever symptoms today which have left me itchy as fk on the face head and neck.
Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.
Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.
There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.
Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.
Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.
There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.
Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Flumpo said:
Had some hayfever symptoms today which have left me itchy as fk on the face head and neck.
Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.
Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.
There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.
Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Have you tried Chlorphenamine? That should help with the itch. I'd avoid Kenalog as we discussed above, especially as no reputable health professional will administer it, not to mention the risk of being given a fakeSome years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.
Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.
There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.
Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Paul Dishman said:
Flumpo said:
Had some hayfever symptoms today which have left me itchy as fk on the face head and neck.
Some years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.
Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.
There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.
Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
Have you tried Chlorphenamine? That should help with the itch. I'd avoid Kenalog as we discussed above, especially as no reputable health professional will administer it, not to mention the risk of being given a fakeSome years I get really bad hayfever and some years barely any symptoms. On the years it’s bad, none of the sprays, tablets or anything have any impact at all.
Given how bad my reaction seems to have been after 20 mins in the garden this morning. I’m going to try the steroid injection.
There may be some side effects but this feels like a year my body/nature has decided to go nuclear.
Anyway, booked in for Sunday so will see what they say and what happens. I’ve already scratched one of my itchy knuckles raw.
I've taken pretty much anything on the market for hayfever over the last 40 years. I also have a similar allergy to dust mites, cats, etc. I'm allergic to life, essentially. I'd found Loratadine/Clarityn to be the best non prescription medication so far.
GP prescribed Avamys steroid nasal spray for my hayfever last year. Absolutely changed my life. A spray every couple of days keeps it all in check. Takes a bit of balancing the dose vs the side effects if you're prone to nosebleeds though.
GP prescribed Avamys steroid nasal spray for my hayfever last year. Absolutely changed my life. A spray every couple of days keeps it all in check. Takes a bit of balancing the dose vs the side effects if you're prone to nosebleeds though.
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